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October 7, 2002 5:45 PM   Subscribe

Take your pick, Mr. Hussein. You have two choices: War or peace pumpkins.
posted by insomnyuk (31 comments total)

 
Sorry, that should have been War,

Also, my short summary of the Bush speech:

"Please, Iraqi Middle Class and Iraqi Generals- overthrow Saddam and his family, or your whole country will be wartorn in minutes."
posted by insomnyuk at 5:48 PM on October 7, 2002


Excellent idea.


.... if the Hobgoblin were to fly his glider into the Oval Office and throw a pumpkin bomb that says "No War" on it.
posted by Stan Chin at 5:51 PM on October 7, 2002


also, by "Peace pumpkins", I mean: life in prison, Dear Stan.
posted by insomnyuk at 5:53 PM on October 7, 2002


And no, I am still anti-war, you fucking nymphomaniacal self-congratulatory masturbatory bastards.

At least anti-war in some sense.
posted by insomnyuk at 5:59 PM on October 7, 2002


So Iraq could quite possibly be a threat later.

So the U.S. should attack now.

And this is his "A" material? More and more, I have come to wonder if President Bush isn't making the world more dangerous for my children. Not safer.

Wonder if the White House will heed the polls showing most Americans think Bush is spending too much time on Iraq and neglecting the tanking economy.

Or whether it will matter that a solid majority of Americans think the U.S. should work with the U.N., not go it alone.
posted by sacre_bleu at 6:05 PM on October 7, 2002


Those are not arguments, sacre_bleu. I should throw a Voltaire-esque bust at your pate.
posted by insomnyuk at 6:12 PM on October 7, 2002


[Not to be over defensive or sensitive..]

What the hell does "you fucking nymphomaniacal self-congratulatory masturbatory bastards" mean?

And - couldn't this have been posted.. oh, never mind.
posted by dash_slot- at 6:14 PM on October 7, 2002


Was anyone else tweaked out by the fact that Bush says "nucular" instead of "nuclear?"
posted by pjdoland at 6:16 PM on October 7, 2002


Yeah, that really got annoying, especially since I listened to the entire speech. No wonder I'm so frustrated.
posted by insomnyuk at 6:20 PM on October 7, 2002


It should be law that to have your finger on the button you must be able to pronounce the word.

And not be a fuckwit, although that's really asking a lot.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:24 PM on October 7, 2002


insomnyuk: Yes, those aren't arguments, they are observations. And I get busted in the noggin for that?

So my country is making the world a more dangerous place while talking about making it safer. My country is telling the other nations of the world it doesn't care what they think, while saying it should be respected by them for acting so boldly. My country says it's preparing to attack a nation soon, based on the speculation that it could eventually deserve it, later, in some sort of alternate universe timeline.

What's to argue about?
posted by sacre_bleu at 6:27 PM on October 7, 2002


"Osama! Osama!"

"Stone him!"

Pumpkin, please.
posted by riviera at 6:28 PM on October 7, 2002


Fine. I give up. You try giving a speech about Weapons of Mass Destruction to millions of people, on International TV. Try it. I DARE YOU. Also, text of the entire speech should be read by all before any more pre-judgements are made. My apologies for appearing to fly off the handle, but I am quite calm.

Of course world opinion matters. Bush said that in the speech.
posted by insomnyuk at 6:29 PM on October 7, 2002


"You try giving a speech about Weapons of Mass Destruction to millions of people, on International TV. Try it. I DARE YOU."

I asked for the time, but apparently you have to be important, or something.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:33 PM on October 7, 2002


I won't mind preemption as long as the US henceforth shuts its mouth when another country decides to take similar preemptive action against one deemed to be "dangerous". Oh, the future will be a beautiful mess.
posted by tgrundke at 6:35 PM on October 7, 2002


And as I posted elsewhere: *yawn*, I still heard no facts and proof to make a hard case-only rhetoric. Moreover, I think that the administration is being overly cocky in assuming the Iraquis will rise up against Hussein. If they do-wonderful. If they don't...hee hee.
posted by tgrundke at 6:36 PM on October 7, 2002


bush should probably bomb insomnyuk.
posted by quonsar at 6:37 PM on October 7, 2002


Quonsar, if I was Gay, I would propose to you.
posted by insomnyuk at 6:39 PM on October 7, 2002


This is silly...posing the fatuous Peace Pumpkins site as an oppositional argument. The anti-war stance has a lot going for it - especially the potential Armeggedonal results - but this poster has resorted to picking on a particularly stupid manifestation of the peaceniks. C'mon, argue the particulars. Don't do an ad hominen.

The fact is (and I know it's not a fact, but, still, I'm worried) that bombing Iraq is not the best of all possible alternatives, considering the possibly world-destroying consequences.
posted by kozad at 6:46 PM on October 7, 2002


Quonsar, if I was Gay, I would propose to you.

I'm not going to comment on the emerging trainwreck that is this thread, except to say: can we please use the subjunctive mood in counterfactual conditionals? Please?
posted by mr_roboto at 6:51 PM on October 7, 2002


pjdoland: he said "nucular" 17 times in 4 minutes! That is just irresponsible speechwriting -- couldn't they have just used something he knew how to pronounce? Like "evil."

Just the latest in W's war on "Terra."
posted by moth at 6:54 PM on October 7, 2002


"Why I hate Saddam and why I'm for a war on Iraq", Bush take #391298357197...

...aaand action!


Sorry, those were not in fact my snarky words. I shamelessly stole them from another thread and used them here for my own notoriously inflammatory purposes. But unlike some in the original thread, I welcome Bush getting as much of his um, viewpoint across as he likes.

(As long as the rest of us poor Volk can do the same.)

"Please, Iraqi Middle Class and Iraqi Generals- overthrow Saddam and his family, or your whole country will be wartorn in minutes."

From whitehouse.gov:

"America is a friend to the people of Iraq. Our demands are directed only at the regime that enslaves them and threatens us. When these demands are met, the first and greatest benefit will come to Iraqi men, women, and children."

Ah, yes. Prop up the bad government for years when you can use it (side effect: bleed the people), then dismantle the bad government when it's no longer useful (side effect: bleed the people).

Sorry. Halloween pumpkins (and more and more, the United States) always makes me think of vampires.
posted by fold_and_mutilate at 6:58 PM on October 7, 2002


I'm still trying to figure out who this "Tara" b*tch is...
posted by Stuart_R at 7:08 PM on October 7, 2002


considering the possibly world-destroying consequences

I'd call this hyperbole if I could only pronounce it.
posted by chris24 at 7:16 PM on October 7, 2002


I thought the Union Army burned Tara down.
posted by elwoodwiles at 7:17 PM on October 7, 2002


can we please use the subjunctive mood in counterfactual conditionals?

mr roboto, if I were gay, I would propose to you.
posted by machaus at 7:24 PM on October 7, 2002


can we please use the subjunctive mood in counterfactual conditionals?

mr roboto, if I were gay, I would propose to you.


machaus: come with me to Vermont....
posted by dash_slot- at 7:39 PM on October 7, 2002


can we please use the subjunctive mood in counterfactual conditionals?

*wipes tear* mr. roboto, if you were a carpenter and I were a lady, I'd marry you anyway and I'd have your baby ...
posted by octobersurprise at 8:00 PM on October 7, 2002


"Tonight I want to take a few minutes to discuss a grave threat to peace, and America's determination to lead the world..."


"... in confronting that threat."


Worst. Pause. Ever.
posted by Darth Vader at 8:10 PM on October 7, 2002


"We have proof--we just, um, can't show it to you."
posted by homunculus at 8:11 PM on October 7, 2002


dash_slot: You know, Hawaii will marry you too. Sure it's a long trip, but i hear it's nice this time of year.
posted by SimStupid at 8:31 PM on October 7, 2002


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