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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 20740</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:54:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 20740</title>
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		<description>Look at your hands. Is your index finger shorter or longer than your ring finger? Be careful because according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://human-nature.com/nibbs/02/manning.html&quot;&gt;John T. Manning&lt;/a&gt;,  those two fingers reveal a variety of characteristics about yourself to the world including assertiveness, attractiveness, reproductive success, hand preference, verbal fluency, autism, depression, health and disease, &lt;a href=&quot;http://psych.unn.ac.uk/users/nick/HBppws04/sld010.htm&quot;&gt;homosexuality tendancies&lt;/a&gt;, musical and sports aptitudes. [via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerbunny.org/blog/archive/000338.html#000338&quot;&gt;Tigerbunny&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;
And while you are at it don&apos;t forget what the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ooze.com/finger/html/history.html&quot;&gt;middle finger&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/Notionalpest/longtoes.html&quot;&gt;a long second toe &lt;/a&gt;might reveal. </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:49:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Badgermann</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364338</link>	
		<description>I couldn&apos;t find the section on determining people&apos;s personalities from the bumps on their head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:54:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikrophon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364343</link>	
		<description>My 2D and 4D are the same length.  I guess that means I&apos;m bi?  Or asexual?  I know that since I&apos;m a Scorpio, I am vain, sexually obsessed, powerfully intimidating, and my favorite colors are blah blah blah.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:01:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Veritron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364346</link>	
		<description>2D and 4D same length is what is normal for women.  What this actually means in real life is difficult to say.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:06:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spotmeter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364349</link>	
		<description>As a skeptical and pragmatic Capricorn, I&apos;m fairly certain that John T. Manning is full of shit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:10:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: billsaysthis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364350</link>	
		<description>Veritron, I may have missed something, but I think the point of the book reviewed is that the author proposes some very specific meanings for the ratio.

What I really want to know is why I keep typing an &apos;n&apos; at the end of ratio. Not really but substantially more interesting question than what the digit ration means.

on preview: spotmeter, can a Taurus be skeptical too? ya think?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:11:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grahamwell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364353</link>	
		<description>So this guy thinks that homosexuality is related to aggression and being good at sports.  Yeah, right.  Maybe he&apos;ll be impressed by my enormous &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2292143.stm&quot;&gt; shoes&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:14:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WolfDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364354</link>	
		<description>I have same length 2D and 4D on my right hand, on my left hand my 4D is slightly longer.

I would never have known this if not for this thread.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eyeballkid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364358</link>	
		<description>Damn. I only have four fingers on my middle hand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:18:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364359</link>	
		<description>My ring fingers are much longer than my index fingers, but I think that&apos;s because my father, John T. Manning, pulled on them with pliers for an hour every night before I went to bed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:19:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: livingdots</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364361</link>	
		<description>Really? And my penis hangs to the left, when it&apos;s flaccid.

That reveals my state of sexual arousal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:22:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NedKoppel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364362</link>	
		<description>What does it mean if your penis is longer than your forearm?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:23:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364364</link>	
		<description>That you have trouble feeding yourself?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:26:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364367</link>	
		<description>My penis is longer than yours, but I think that&apos;s because my father, John T. Manning, pulled on it with pliers for an hour every night before I went to bed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:30:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364373</link>	
		<description>Really, though, I get the sense that this is about as scientifically credible as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm&quot;&gt;reverse speech.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:33:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364374</link>	
		<description>Has anyone asked Matt if it&apos;s time to close this chat room off to new users?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:33:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364381</link>	
		<description>This thread is better than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/20739&quot;&gt;nitrous oxide&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:39:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesque</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364389</link>	
		<description>Yikers! My 2nd toe is longer than my big toe.

That explains why I&apos;ve been killing all those people.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:50:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364391</link>	
		<description>Ok, but what does it mean if your 2D is substantially longer than your 4D?  Should I fear the full moon?

Signed, Disturbed with Digital Diagnosis</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:55:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364397</link>	
		<description>I have super long &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avera.org/adam/ency/article/003288.htm&quot;&gt;&quot;spider fingers&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, because Mr. Marfan has apparently been pulling at my chromosomes with tiny little pliers. 

And I have a big bump on my head that &lt;a href=&quot;http://pages.britishlibrary.net/phrenology/images.html&quot;&gt;would have once been seen as proof&lt;/a&gt; of my &quot;combativeness,&quot; because Mama Scody dropped me when I was a wee lass.  (This last link is fun -- go phrenologically hogwild!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:01:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: answergrape</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364399</link>	
		<description>If my ring finger is most significantly longer, does it make me a BIG lesbian? Cause if it does, maybe I need to buy more flashy rings or something; it&apos;d be a shame to keep that to myself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:02:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364438</link>	
		<description>Hey, all my fingers are 3D!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:35:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oh posey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364439</link>	
		<description>The majority of women have digits of similar length, with the notable exception of lesbians. They tend to have ratios that are similar to those of men. 

&quot;Somehow, these women might have gotten an errant dose &#8212; an accidental tsunami of Testosterone &#8212; during their first trimester in the womb. As a result (and this is just one theory), their sexual preferences leaned strongly toward other women. Were it not for their lack of penises, the presence of breasts, and an affinity for LPGA-sponsored events, they might as well have been men.&quot;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.t-mag.com/articles/165tc2.html&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:37:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattpfeff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364442</link>	
		<description>Some  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=%22plastic+surgeon+john+manning%22&quot;&gt;further inspection&lt;/a&gt; reveals that John Manning is actually a plastic surgeon, with what can only be a very elaborate plan to raise new business....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:38:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mathis23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364464</link>	
		<description>Damn.  2D...4D...it&apos;s all so confusing.  I wouldn&apos;t know what to believe in anymore if it weren&apos;t for my Lucky Astrology Mood Watch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:09:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364466</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;it has been suggested that the male digit ratio pattern may be functional -- a longer ring finger may help to stabilize the third digit (the middle finger) when throwing objects, thus increasing throwing accuracy. &lt;/i&gt;

wouldn&apos;t the general length of fingers overall have more impact on throwing than the miniscule difference between a ratio of .96 and one of 1?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:14:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364501</link>	
		<description> %5 of the population has a longer second toe which means we have about 15 million serial killers in America.

Perhaps the ring finger has grown to better use the &apos;p&apos; &apos;r&apos; and &apos;0&apos; keys which is an essential part of &apos;pr0n&apos;. Or the other way around.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364504</link>	
		<description>Upon sober reflection, I have concluded that my extra long index finger is indicative of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://metatalk.metafilter.com/mefi/2691#52248&quot;&gt;vampiric tendencies&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:55:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarantine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364513</link>	
		<description>I have long noticed that looking at my palms, my 4D is longer than my 2D on my left hand, and vice versa on the right.  Looking at the backs of the hands, the 4D is longer in both cases.

&lt;i&gt;Perhaps the ring finger has grown to better use the &apos;p&apos; &apos;r&apos; and &apos;0&apos; keys which is an essential part of &apos;pr0n&apos;.&lt;/i&gt;

Is the ring finger the standard finger for hitting the &apos;p&apos;?  I always use my fifth finger, which is consistent with hitting &apos;q&apos; with my fifth finger.  Personally, I think ring fingers evolved to assist with eating pancakes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:08:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364545</link>	
		<description>However, if your index finger is longer than your middle finger, it almost certainly means you&apos;re a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darksites.com/souls/vampires/angelxxuan/werewolf4.html&quot;&gt;werewolf&lt;/a&gt;.  If you spot such a person (particularly if he or she also has a unibrow), steer very clear as the full moon approaches.  Because, as you know, even a man who is pure at heart and says his prayers by night can become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the moon is full and bright...

OwwwwoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:17:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364547</link>	
		<description>This is the second time in less than a week that someone&apos;s linked to an image of Galileo&apos;s mummified middle finger.

Just in case anyone&apos;s keeping track of links to images of Galileo&apos;s mummified middle finger, and stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:20:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jaded</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364581</link>	
		<description>On that subject, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380793326/ref=pd_sim_books/102-7371761-8389765?v=glance&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; book was a pretty good read,</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:15:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364588</link>	
		<description>Make that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/20751#364584&quot;&gt;three&lt;/a&gt; times!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:32:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dillonlikescookies</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364613</link>	
		<description>Let&apos;s have a look at the Long Second Toe story&apos;s URL.
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/Notionalpest/longtoes.html
Notional Pest? Hmm. That&apos;s a new one.
A closer inspection of some of the recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/Notionalpest/last_issue.html&quot;&gt;additions&lt;/a&gt; reveals that this is most likely satire.

Do I get a prize?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:17:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oh posey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364626</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do I get a prize?&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;m afraid &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/20740#364338&quot;&gt;Badgermann&lt;/a&gt; caught on right away so technically he wins the prize. Sorry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tolkhan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364738</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/20740#364364&quot;&gt;bwahahahaha!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:50:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jasontromm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20740/#364888</link>	
		<description>what a bunch of BS, especially the part about finger length indicating homosexual tendencies!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:48:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carlos Quevedo</title>
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		<description>It&apos;s not about the fingers. folks - it&apos;s about the nose!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Quevedo</dc:creator>
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