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	<title>Comments on: The male species has it easy.</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:43:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The male species has it easy.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.ampnet.co.uk/femorabilia/pee_standing.html"&gt;The male species has it easy.&lt;/a&gt; Feminist magazine Amp meditates on whether women should hover or plonk when they go to the bathroom.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;It&apos;s like learning how to whistle. You have to learn how to position your lips for the best results.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  This article isn&apos;t work safe.  In fact I&apos;m not sure if it&apos;s safe at all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:22:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>feelinglistless</dc:creator>		<category>women</category>		<category>bathroom</category>		<category>vagina</category>		<category>body</category>		<category>health</category>		<category>peeing</category>		<category>urination</category>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369265</link>	
		<description>God bless our women.  I refuse to sit on a public toilet, even if it means physically holding my ass-cheeks together with my hands a&apos;la Cheech in &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0078446&quot;&gt;Up In Smoke&lt;/a&gt; until I can get home.  If I were a woman I&apos;d definitely opt for the hover.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:43:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369268</link>	
		<description>You know how to whistle, don&apos;t you, feelinglistless? You just put your lips together and...blow. 

I am so jealous of your point and shoot abilities, I really am. Especially writing stuff in the snow - that has to be so much fun. But I&apos;m just not ready for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.restrooms.org/standing.html&quot; title=&quot;scroll down for the pic ;)&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:45:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: George_Spiggott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369273</link>	
		<description>One thing a woman who learns  this skill might have to worry about.  Another woman in the bathroom, happens to see a pair of feet under the stall facing the porcelain, and the sound tells the story.  This other woman will probably assume that there&apos;s a transvestite in there and call for security.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:51:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PenDevil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369276</link>	
		<description>Reminds me of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spacemoose.com&quot;&gt;spacemoose&lt;/a&gt; (WARNING: &lt;strong&gt;Highly offensive&lt;/strong&gt;... but damn funny) cartoon. Space Moose and a feminist are having a back and forth debate that women are equal to men and he trumps her with &lt;em&gt;&quot;Write your name in the snow... with piss&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:53:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Red58</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369279</link>	
		<description>This skill was finely demonstrated, or list implied, in &lt;i&gt;The Full Monty.&lt;/i&gt; True confession, I&apos;ve tried this and there was, um, a bit of leakage.

I&apos;d rather hover. Good for the thighs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:54:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HTuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369282</link>	
		<description>Also be aware that wayward overspray is not always due to bad aim. Any stream of water will have droplets which escape from the main flow and land out of the target area. (I mention this after yet another TV side plot of a women not undertstanding that water streams are NOT solids. Though considerate standers should always wipe away those trace escapees.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:59:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arielmeadow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369286</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve tested the method described on restrooms.org, and it works quite well. Having solid control of your kegel is key.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:09:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369288</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;God bless our women&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Whose&lt;/i&gt; women?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:10:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Summer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369292</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Whose women?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Mine and my Pocket President&apos;s.  The rest of you are on your own.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SoftRain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369294</link>	
		<description>Hovering may be good for the thighs, but as mentioned in the article, is baaad for the bladder.

I personally have made it a goal to learn ever since I saw restrooms.org, but when you share a shower with 19 other people, practicing really isn&apos;t an option.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:20:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mookieproof</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369295</link>	
		<description>Yesterday I had a forked pee--two streams at an angle &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; acute enough to fit inside the toilet from groin-height on a 6&apos;4&quot; guy.  I stared, fascinated and aghast, wondering why but afraid to ruin the magic.  Urethras are weird.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:26:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oh posey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369302</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s possible to plonk when the perfect pee becomes necessary if you don&apos;t mind handling your whistler while wearing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.absolutecorsets.com/panties-2/s-82.htm&quot;&gt;crotchless bloomers&lt;/a&gt;.

However I&apos;ve yet to conquer the &quot;floor ankle-deep in unidentifed liquid&quot; when wearing long pants.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:34:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kileregreen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369309</link>	
		<description>does this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heavenlydevinn.com&quot; blank&gt;girl&lt;/a&gt; hover or plonk?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:43:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369313</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;) Raise the toilet seat.
2) Wash your hands.
3) Adjust clothing&lt;/i&gt;

And you do this, how?  Are toilets in GB designed with a sink inside the stall?

I actually know how to do this (hint:  practice in the shower) and use it when camping.  Maybe I should start using it when I go out;  here in the South  apparently paper toilet seat covers are not mandated by law.

And by the way, to avoid  the &quot;floor ankle-deep in unidentifed liquid&quot; grow up and stop hanging out in dives.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:47:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mo Nickels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369322</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry, the aiming ability of the human male penis while urinating is highly over-rated; female standup comedians and supposedly funny newspaper columnists are largely responsible. Cover your eyes if you&apos;re the sensitive type. 

Ladies, have you ever held a garden hose in your hand and then turned on the faucet? What happened? Right, your aim was off, no matter how careful you were before you started the water. You instinctively had to self-correct in order to direct the flow. We men have to do that. It means we sometimes miss as soon as we start urinating.

Now, what happens when you put your thumb over the hose opening? Right, the spray is unpredictable. It&apos;s even harder to control. That&apos;s what happens to the male human penis: sometimes the valve isn&apos;t completely open and the spray is erratic and points in a direction other than the owner of the penis intends. (Forked urination is a common example). 

These examples are why we sometimes miss the toilet or urinal. Most of us aren&apos;t doing it on purpose: we can&apos;t help it, and since we&apos;re no more likely to want to sit on strange porcelain where hundreds of unknown behinds have sat before, we stand, and spray, and miss. Even worse, most toilets are designed in such a way that a man sitting to pee risks direct genital contact with the toilet surface. Very unsanitary.

Unexcepeted are men who don&apos;t understand how to lift a toilet seat without touching it. They futilely try to aim within the hole. It&apos;s a narrow target, and as shown above, they are likely to miss. Gentlemen, use toilet paper or your foot to lift that seat. Lift it with the toe or the upper surface of any thick sole, the part that sticks out beyond the uppers. In toilets with non-automated flushes, this is how you flush as well: use your foot. Don&apos;t worry about it being unsanitary: the whole process is unsanitary. Anyone who will sit will clean the seat first, or do the layered toilet paper nest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:55:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369347</link>	
		<description>God bless you, brother Mo, for telling the straight story.  It isn&apos;t all wine and roses, urinating standing up.  This is even without mentioning the agony of not being able to relieve onesself on &quot;certain mornings&quot; when the body&apos;s natural plumbing has rendered one, shall we say, tumescent?

&lt;i&gt;Unexcepeted are men who don&apos;t understand how to lift a toilet seat without touching it. They futilely try to aim within the hole. It&apos;s a narrow target, and as shown above, they are likely to miss. &lt;/i&gt;

Yet is it not this challenge that appeals to the sharpshooter in all of us?  I know that, though I fail as often as I succeed, I will never stop reaching for that brass ring.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 16:19:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fupped Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369363</link>	
		<description>Sure she talks like she&apos;s tough and liberated, but she&apos;s still a wuss for putting the seat back down when she&apos;s done. That alone singlehandedly destroys any semblance to the male experience of upright urination she so covets.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 16:38:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369368</link>	
		<description>A pee-on, Hildago?  That&apos;s what the shower stall was invented for.  Brush your teeth, piss, wash and shave all at the same time!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 16:49:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369395</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am so jealous of your point and shoot abilities, I really am.&lt;/i&gt;

It is God&apos;s great gift to the male gender.  I use to love writing my full name(including my mothers maiden name) in the snow when I whizzed(I used to drink a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; of beer). Nowadays though, half the time I sit down to pee just for the rest, here&apos;s to impending middle age.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 18:34:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: namespan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369396</link>	
		<description>&quot; Many women seem to think that a guy is able to whip out his Johnson and be able to draw a precise rendition of a 16th century wood-cut in a snow bank. Well, that don&apos;t happen...&quot;

From a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=124&amp;node_id=948893&quot;&gt;a rant on Everything2&lt;/a&gt;. Amusing and even somewhat educational. Continues Mo Nickels&apos; themes from above, and elaborates a bit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 18:38:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raygirvan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369406</link>	
		<description>Another option not mentioned: assuming there is toilet tissue available, simply flush the toilet, catch water in mid-flush on a wad of tissue, and wash the seat (repeating if necessary if you&apos;re really paranoid) then dry it with more tissue.  (I won&apos;t even bother addressing the point that the whole problem stems from mikrophobia rather than any real risk of catching any disease from a toilet seat).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:01:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wet Spot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369419</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is God&apos;s great gift to the male gender.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. And &lt;a href=&quot;http://ilovebacon.bla-bla.com/jokes/033001b.shtml &quot;&gt; this &lt;/a&gt; explains what women got.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:37:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inpHilltr8r</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369449</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yesterday I had a forked pee--two streams at an angle just acute enough to fit inside the toilet from groin-height on a 6&apos;4&quot; guy. I stared, fascinated and aghast, wondering why...&lt;/i&gt;

Internal adhesion usually. 

Bloke I used to know had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://you.really.dont.want.an.actual.link.do.you?&quot;&gt;genital piercing&lt;/a&gt;, and as a result, lost the ability to pee standing up. Well, not without becoming a garden sprinkler...

...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxmovies.com/fightclub/publicservice2.mov&quot;&gt;which reminds me.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:57:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boredomjockey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369491</link>	
		<description>What Mo Nickels said.  When I&apos;m at home, I just pee sitting down.  It&apos;s easier.  Why stand when I can sit and rest a while?  (Nice to have the urinal option in public though, of course.)  

Hey females, I&apos;m curious: Has anyone here tried any of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.p-mate.com/&quot;&gt;various&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://whizzy4you.com/&quot;&gt;technological&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comforthouse.com/porjoh.html&quot;&gt;solutions&lt;/a&gt; on the market?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:00:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369529</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t understand how anyone can think sitting on a public toilet seat is more icky than urinating in the shower.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 03:48:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Summer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369552</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t imagine that the water &quot;mid-flush&quot; is anything even approaching non-toxic.  Fucking icky!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 10:34:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: feelinglistless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369563</link>	
		<description>When they got to the toilet, do psychics see the aura of all the people who&apos;ve sat there before them?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:29:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369630</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&apos;t understand how anyone can think sitting on a public toilet seat is more icky than urinating in the shower.&lt;/i&gt;

Let&apos;s see: 

1)  In the shower, if I happen to touch any pee it will be my own pee-- not some stranger&apos;s dribble on the seat.

2)  In the shower there is plenty of hot steaming water and soap available to immediately sluice down any body part that may have come into contact with my own pee (see above.)

It is just good clean fun, Summer!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:08:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369670</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yesterday I had a forked pee--two streams at an angle just acute enough to fit inside the toilet from groin-height on a 6&apos;4&quot; guy. I stared, fascinated and aghast, wondering why...&lt;/i&gt;
a tad bit of lint stuck in the old nozzle, i&apos;d wager...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:20:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20917/The-male-species-has-it-easy#369695</link>	
		<description>Not to mention:

3) Fresh pee from a healthy person is sterile. It&apos;s not like you have to scrub down any body part (or bathroom fixture) that&apos;s been splashed with antibacterial soap; a rinse will do fine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:08:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kindall</dc:creator>
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