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	<title>Comments on: Designer-programmer-actor-model-waiter?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Designer-programmer-actor-model-waiter?</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://forums.sympatico.ca/WebX/WebX.cgi?13@91.W5eUbbZwefr^0@.efc3fa8"&gt;Designer-programmer-actor-model-waiter?&lt;/a&gt; Finally, someone giving one or more fingers to Toronto&apos;s tightarsed, outdated &lt;CITE lang=&quot;fr&quot;&gt;nouveaux-m&#233;dias&lt;/cite&gt; hiring practices. How would &lt;EM&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; like to be on call &lt;EM&gt;24 hours a day&lt;/em&gt; as an interactive-TV manager for the Weather Network way the fork out in Mississauga? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.non.com/news.answers/lila-feng-faq.html&quot; title=&quot;Lila Fengf an club&quot;&gt;Lila Feng&lt;/a&gt; worship isn&apos;t enough of a payoff, kids.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:15:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joeclark</dc:creator>		<category>Toronto</category>		<category>Canada</category>		<category>media</category>		<category>TV</category>		<category>television</category>		<category>WeatherNetwork</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9478</link>	
		<description>The thing is, for some of us, that&apos;s a dream job.  Although I do agree with the designer-programmer argument posted in the talkback.  I&apos;m a programmer, and have demonstrated numerous times my complete inability to design more than the occasional table.

(of course, that&apos;s why it&apos;s a dream.  :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ezrael</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9508</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry, but I have to draw the line at the &lt;i&gt;Weather Channel.&lt;/i&gt; For God&apos;s sake, it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;weather.&lt;/i&gt; You aren&apos;t supposed to get it from TV, you are supposed to go outside and &lt;i&gt;experience&lt;/i&gt; it. The only reason to watch the Weather Channel is to find out what the weather will be tomorrow. Then you turn it off.

Am I crazy? Well, okay, but am I crazy on this subject?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:33:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9509</link>	
		<description>My favorite was an ad to run the library web site at Miss. State U. from last year.  The requirements included (though by no means were limited to): &quot;graphic design ability with working experience in Photoshop, Flash, Real Audio, Shockwave (or similar) HTML ability, Perl, FrontPage, ASP, CGI, Java, Javascript, Netscape Navigator and MS Internet Explorer; ...[familiarity] with Windows NT Workstation, NT Server, and Internet Information Server ver. 4 (IIS4); ...knowledgeable in the use of applications including Corel Suite 8, Microsoft Office Suite and FileMaker Pro.&quot; 

They were offering 30k &quot;minimum&quot;.   Preference, the ad concluded, would be given to those familiar with &quot;C++ and MS Visual Basic&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:34:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9532</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sure they don&apos;t expect an expert programmer mixed with an expert designer, but rather someone with decent skills at both. I don&apos;t see what&apos;s so bad about it.

(&quot;&lt;i&gt;way the fork out in Mississauga? &lt;/i&gt;&quot;) : 

You know, some of us actually live in Mississauga.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:42:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9544</link>	
		<description>The ones asking for &quot;10 years web experience&quot; crack me up, too.

Let&apos;s face it, though, &quot;requirements&quot; means &quot;ability to bluff in&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:14:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PWA_BadBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9559</link>	
		<description>Mississauga&apos;s not that bad. Nice fast growing community... surely better than living in Scarborough (ooh.. gonna take some flak for that)...

As for the requirements, I think HR departments tend to put more on the job descriptions than is really necessary to make sure they don&apos;t get some fraud who doesn&apos;t know &quot;any of the above&quot;.. Unfortunately, it&apos;s rather counter-intuitive since everybody ends up lying.

On a brighter note, I put up my virtual resum&amp;eacute; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monster.ca&quot;&gt;Monster.ca&lt;/a&gt; and got a call from a headhunter asking if I&apos;d be interested in a Senior Java Programmer position in Vancouver or Calgary. LOL... I&apos;m still a co-op student at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uwaterloo.ca&quot;&gt;University of Waterloo&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:28:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2096/Designerprogrammeractormodelwaiter#9591</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Am I crazy? Well, okay, but am I crazy on this subject?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.  

Sometimes you can&apos;t just step outside and know what the weather at the camp grounds 5 hours away is going to be like, or whether or not a storm is brewing and you should bring an umbrella to work.

Sure, most days you can tell if the sky&apos;s grey and cloudy and if it &quot;feels&quot; like rain, but then there are the days (and since this conversation is drawing out the southern ontarians, all you folk should know what I&apos;m talking about :-) that are bright, sunny and warm in the morning (~7am) raining by the time you get to work (~8am) dry but gloomy for lunch (~12pm) thunderstorming in the mid-afternoon (~3pm) and dry and sunny by the time you get home for dinner that night. (~8pm).

Sometimes it&apos;s nice to have the advanced forecast.

On the other hand, I&apos;ve programmed my TV to block the Weather Channel when I&apos;m flicking for mind-numbing entertainment.  :-)
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:13:56 -0800</pubDate>
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