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	<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:16:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 21259</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type1191.html"&gt;The Devil&apos;s Bridge.&lt;/a&gt; For Halloween, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linketto.it/ilaria_00.html&quot;&gt;tales&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.airport-shuttle-munich.com/regensburgus.htm&quot; title=&quot;scroll down to The Bridge of Stone and the devil&quot;&gt;bridges&lt;/a&gt; where the devil took a hand in the building: &quot;If I help you, I&apos;ll have the soul of the first who crosses the bridge!&quot;  But the devil gets fooled... [more]</description>
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		<dc:creator>languagehat</dc:creator>		<category>devil</category>		<category>bridges</category>		<category>sacrifice</category>		<category>Arta</category>		<category>Avignon</category>		<category>Drina</category>		<category>Andric</category>		<category>Mostar</category>		<category>Greece</category>		<category>Yugoslavia</category>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
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		<description>In the Balkans, on the other hand, the builder has to sacrifice his wife to make the bridge stand firm; the most famous is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archimedia.gr/hypertour/epirus/html_refs/rf_43.html&quot;&gt;Bridge of Arta&lt;/a&gt; in Greece, but there are similar stories &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/1997/0319/lament.html&quot;&gt;all over&lt;/a&gt;.  A rarity is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mairie-avignon.fr/en/musees/ponten.php&quot;&gt;pont d&apos;Avignon&lt;/a&gt;, whose story involves neither death nor devil, just a miracle to help the shepherd B&#233;nezet.  Of course, some of the old bridges most recently in the news are in the former Yugoslavia; there&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prevodi-vertalingen.com/bridgesformostovi/othersincandb/cuprija5.html&quot; title=&quot;a nice photo&quot;&gt;Bridge on the Drina&lt;/a&gt; at Visegrad, about which Ivo Andric wrote a great &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ivoandric.org.yu/html/body_the_bridge_on_the_drina.html&quot; title=&quot;which got him his Nobel&quot;&gt;novel&lt;/a&gt; and where &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/postings/saddest_eyes.html&quot;&gt;terrible things happened&lt;/a&gt; during the war; finally, there&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~bosnia/images/mostar.html&quot;&gt;bridge&lt;/a&gt; at Mostar, which was destroyed in one of the many depressing episodes of the recent war but is now being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seerecon.org/News/2002/0103-mostar.htm&quot;&gt;rebuilt&lt;/a&gt;&amp;mdash;by a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/27/magazine/27MOSTAR.html&quot; title=&quot;great story by Michael Ignatieff; NYT link, registration required&quot;&gt;very determined guy&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: condour75</title>
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		<description>Great post!  Interesting how tropes like this are found everywhere; What is it about crossing water that brings out tales of hubris?  Daedalus and Icharus were flying over water when Icharus flew too close to Mr. Sun.  Then there&apos;s that James Cameron movie about that boat... what was it called?  

I&apos;ve been to the bridge in Wales; it really wasn&apos;t too impressive as bridges go, but it was a fun day trip just the same.  One wonders if someday the New World will have such a tale.  I nominate &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.designbuildmag.com/dec2001/masterbuilders1201.asp&apos;&gt;Robert Moses and the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:31:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oissubke</title>
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		<description>Awesome post, hat. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quadog</title>
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		<description>I think the Devil needs to refine the terms of his contracts. I&apos;m sure any lawyer would be willing to help him - for a fee.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
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		<description>&lt;small&gt;[this is good]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:43:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dazed_one</title>
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		<description>And here was me thinking that the devil was cunning... It seems he fell for the same trick about 5 times...

Good post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:04:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
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		<description>Devil went down to Lake Galenbeck
He was looking for a soul to steal...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:34:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
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		<description>The devil was apparently pretty involved in bridge building in Wales too, among other activities, many involving bargains and compacts. This thread reminded me of a Devil&apos;s Bridge I had seen in Aberystwyth - a Google turned up this wonderful page of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.red4.co.uk/Folklore/trevelyan/welshfolklore/chapt12.htm&quot;&gt;deviltry in Wales,&lt;/a&gt; including a few bridge tales.  Great post languagehat!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:22:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taratan</title>
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		<description>Fascinating tales - all of them (&amp;amp; what a discovery -&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type1175.html&quot;&gt;The Brahmar&#226;kshas and the Hair, Breaking Wind: Legendary Farts, etc.&lt;/a&gt;). Thanks, languagehat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:27:57 -0800</pubDate>
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