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	<title>Comments on: 700-year-old picture of &apos;Mickey Mouse&apos; found in Austrian church</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:22:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>700-year-old picture of &apos;Mickey Mouse&apos; found in Austrian church</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_709660.html"&gt;The similarity of the painting to Mickey Mouse is so astounding that the Disney concern could even lose its world-wide copyright licence.&lt;/a&gt; &#160; Art historian Eduard Mahlknecht believes the similarity to Mickey is pure coincidence. He told &lt;a href=&quot;http://wcm.krone.at/krone/C00/S15/A7/object_id__1555/hxcms/index.html&quot;&gt;Austrian daily Krone&lt;/a&gt; &quot;St Christopher was often depicted surrounded by various animals and sea-life, and in this case something that resembles Mickey Mouse.

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:10:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mushkelley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388195</link>	
		<description>Imagine the world wide heartbreak when that crappy Mickey gets marketed as &quot;The Original Mickey Mouse&quot; and then idiot parents buy them for their kids.  This could be worse than the Go-bots fiasco.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:22:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jazzkat11</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388200</link>	
		<description>If a miracle can be attributed to the mouse, I think we should move towards canonization..</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:23:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388210</link>	
		<description>i intended to include this final link in the post, but disney is still beaming mind control rays into my building and i plum forgot. &lt;a href=&quot;http://eldred.cc/&quot;&gt;free the mouse!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:32:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cerebus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388215</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll bet it&apos;s a hoax.  Someone will eventually discover that the Mickey head was a modern addition by some wag.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:34:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ufez Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388217</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;It is most likely to be a drawing of a beaver or a weasel.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Insert smarmy comment about Austrian Beaver here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:37:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ufez Jones</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wanderingmind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388218</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;St Christopher was often depicted surrounded by various animals&lt;/i&gt;

...St. Christopher Robin?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:37:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ambivalentgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388224</link>	
		<description>Really, like drawing a circle with two smaller circles on top was the most genius idea ever?  There are bound to be coincidences.  It almost seems like a hoax though, kind of amusing.

Plus, it&apos;s too late now.  We all know the image of Mickey and his character, how are they going to erase that?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:41:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388226</link>	
		<description>What a delightful dream it would be that Disney lose the ability to bully everyone on earth over this image. But you know it ain&apos;t gonna happen. Disney will just buy the church and market this image as &quot;Classick Mickey&quot; in the same way they&apos;ve done with Shepherd&apos;s original &lt;a href=&quot;http://disney.store.go.com/DSSectionSearch.process?sectionstr1=Toys+%26+Dolls&#167;ionstr2=Stuffed+Toys&#167;ionstr3=Movies%2C+Games+%26+More&#167;ionstr4=Clothes+%26+Accessories&#167;ionstr5=For+the+Home&amp;Sectioncount1=&amp;Sectioncount2=&amp;Sectioncount3=1&amp;Sectioncount4=5&amp;Sectioncount5=2&amp;searchstr=classic+pooh&amp;searchstr1=&amp;keyword=&amp;keyword1=&amp;Product_Name_cond=&amp;Character_Movie_str=&amp;Product_Category_str=&amp;Age_str=&amp;Price_str=&amp;Event_str=&amp;Flag_str=&amp;New_str=&amp;Limited_str=&amp;Hot_str=&amp;Presale_str=&amp;Presale_str2=&amp;Sale_str=&#167;ionstr=For+the+Home&amp;BrowsingDirection=%2B&amp;BrowsingDistance=0&amp;Product_Id=93924&quot;&gt;Winnie-the-Pooh&lt;/a&gt; drawings.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388228</link>	
		<description>Right on.  Now could somebody please discover a 900 year-old Coke logo on some pottery fragments in Turkey?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:45:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388235</link>	
		<description>I for one welcome our new Mic.........oh to hell with that. What I really want to know is, what is he doing with his left paw?

I&apos;ll be laughing about your comment for at least the rest of the day, Mushkelley.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:53:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388243</link>	
		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://2trak.com/coke.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:58:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dwivian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388260</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;what is he doing with his left paw?&lt;/i&gt;

You think the only willie he&apos;s driven was the steamboat?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zane9</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388271</link>	
		<description>Art historian Eduard Mahlknecht says&quot;It is most likely to be a drawing of a beaver or a weasel&quot;

Hey Eduard, I sure hope they don&apos;t let you loose during hunting season. Have you ever seen a real beaver? Come to Canada..we got lots of &apos;em.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:20:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UrbanFigaro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388280</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I gotta go with hoax.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:28:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388293</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitalmediafx.com/Features/ubiwerks.html&quot;&gt;Ub Iwerks&lt;/a&gt;, Time Traveller!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:37:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RJ Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388306</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m no lawyer (yay for me!), but if this were real, I don&apos;t think it would do anything to their &quot;world-wide copyright license&quot; (which I think is a misnomer). They&apos;re not infringing on the non-trademarked rights of a recently discovered 700 year old picture, because that picture has no rights. In fact, if these Austrians start calling this &quot;the cave Mickey Mouse&quot; or whatever, &lt;i&gt;they&apos;re&lt;/i&gt; the ones gonna be paying the Evil Mouse the big bucks. Lawyers, please feel free to correct me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:50:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RJ Reynolds</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388310</link>	
		<description>holy photoshop, quonar, that was only thirteen minutes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:53:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388312</link>	
		<description>s</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:53:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388314</link>	
		<description>one word: googleimagesearch</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: me3dia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388322</link>	
		<description>Hey,  that&apos;s three words! You just smooshed them together!

I agree with RJ here -- trademark didn&apos;t exist 700 years ago, and whatever entity painted the O.G. Mickey is long dead and gone, so trademark ownership is moot. On the other hand, I doubt Disney could claim prior art on something that predates America, so anyone making T-shirts, etc. could do so with impunity for the most part, unless a specific link to Mickey Mouse&#174; is made. If I were those church people, though, I&apos;d cash in on this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388327</link>	
		<description>&quot;Prior art&quot; is something that only applies to patents. You can use basically any symbol you like as a trademark, as long as it is distinctive and doesn&apos;t cause confusion in the market with another product. Coca-Cola could, say, start slapping a swastika on its drinks, and if they were the only one doing so, they&apos;d essentially own the mark and be able to prevent anyone else from using it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:12:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zekinskia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388330</link>	
		<description>Hoax or not, at least it might draw some attention to the way Disney has been raping our copyright laws for the past half-century...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:14:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388343</link>	
		<description>Well, what do you know.  It&apos;s a small world after all, I guess.

Oh &lt;i&gt;come on&lt;/i&gt;, someone had to say it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:30:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388376</link>	
		<description>Anybody else notice the similarity between &lt;a href=&quot;http://wcm.krone.at/hps/upload/hxmedia/2002/11/13/2_zU96e3EyU2Cb_.jpg&quot;&gt;fresco Mickey&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.comco.ne.jp/~euxenite/images/aphrodite.JPG&quot;&gt;Botticelli&apos;s Venus&lt;/a&gt;? I feel a thesis forming.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:02:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388379</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Coca-Cola could, say, start slapping a swastika on its drinks&lt;/i&gt;

Coke: It&apos;s Hitlerific!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:04:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21639/700yearold-picture-of-Mickey-Mouse-found-in-Austrian-church#388394</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;q=%2B%22mike+godwin%22+%2B%22mickey+mouse%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search&quot;&gt;damn&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:36:56 -0800</pubDate>
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