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	<title>Comments on: Avram Davidson</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:11:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Avram Davidson</title>
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		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;Cyprus was another world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
The city of Paphos might have been designed and built by a Grecian architect dreamy with the drugs called talaquin or mandragora: in marble yellow as unmixed cream, marble pink as sweetmeats, marble the green of pistuquim nuts, veined marble and grained marble, honey-colored and rose-red, the buildings climbed along the hills and frothed among the hollows. Tier after tier of overtall pillars, capitals of a profusion of carvings to make Corinthian seem ascetic, pediments lush with bas-reliefs, four-fold arches at every corner and crossing, statues so huge that they loomed over the housetops, statues so small that whole troops of them flocked and frolicked under every building&apos;s eaves, groves and gardens everywhere, fountains playing, water spouting . . .
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Paphos.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/&quot; title=&quot;&apos;&apos;We cannot continue as we are doing,&apos;&apos; Vergil said, &apos;&apos;hugging a shore like a bait fisherman. At such a rate we might be months reaching Cyprus. I had not informed you, but inform you now, that my purpose is to demand of the Delegate of the Sea-Huns--who has his office in Corpho--a safe-conduct to his Kings, and to obtain from them a safe-conduct to Cyprus. That way we can travel on the open seas. The time required for these two side voyages will thus be more than made up.&apos;&apos;&quot;&gt;
Avram Davidson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was the autodidact&apos;s autodidact; cognoscenti&apos;s cognocenti; the polymath&apos;s polymath, one who knew the minutiae of freemasonry, heraldry-any number of categories of the arcane, major and minor; front to back; top to bottom. Long before the genre &lt;i&gt;Steam punk&lt;/i&gt; was named, he&apos;d already defined the Other Nineteenth Century. And he wrote the most sumptuous prose.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Come step within the heirodule  enclosure&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:09:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389859</link>	
		<description>Linebreaks &amp;amp; FPP consumption downright ballsy.</description>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389860</link>	
		<description> But don&apos;t take my word for it, here are a &lt;a href=&quot;http://sfandf.owlcroft.com/AUTHORS/AvramDavidson.shtml&quot; title=&quot;When once one has adjusted to Davidson&apos;s pace, his prose is delicious--by turns charming, terrifying, perplexing, amusing. Oh, and erudite: Davidson was a voracious reader with wide tastes, a keen mind, and a retentive memory, and his work shows it, though casually, quietly, not paraded brazenly for our admiration.&quot;&gt;second&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/select.htm&quot; title=&quot;In late 1992 I first read a battered but intact copy of The Enquiries of Doctor Eszterhazy paperback. I was surprised, again and again. The rambling sentences and digressions impressed me, but most of all it was the way in which Avram integrates obscure and bizarre knowledge into these stories: knowledge that in anyone else&apos;s hands would be dusty and uninteresting or an info-dump (technique invented, perhaps, by Jules Verne) that strangled or squashed the flow of language. I went to all the right schools and have read lots of books, but Avram was genuinely learned, as even a single sentence taken at random will reveal. There is a healthy measure of irreverence to temper this erudition, so that one is not oppressed by the weight of information.&quot;&gt;third&lt;/a&gt; opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/davidson/davidson1.html&quot; title=&quot;&apos;&apos;Four people coming down the forest road, a hey,&apos;&apos; Old Big Mary said.&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The House The Blakeneys Built&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Here and later is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infinitematrix.net/stories/shorts/young_vergil1.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Young Vergil and the Wizard&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Note that the latter host, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infinitematrix.net/index.html&quot;&gt;Infinite Matrix&lt;/a&gt;, truly a treasure and very worthy, is in dire straits--those who of you who can should drop some coins into the bowl there.  Also, we should note and explore &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/nutmeg12.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;THE NUTMEG POINT DISTRICT MAIL&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:11:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: four panels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389864</link>	
		<description>It reads like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.4ad.com/&quot;&gt;4AD&lt;/a&gt; liner notes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:39:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildago</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389865</link>	
		<description>Well crap, now I have to buy some Avram Davidson books. 

Thanks for nothing, y2karl.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:39:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: son_of_minya</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389872</link>	
		<description>I found that link to be extremely disturbing, in a sickening and repulsive way, but I have no idea why.  Are there really people yelling, &quot;Trick or Treat&quot; and laughing?

It was like following a dog&apos;s adventures from pot to stew.  Real weird morbid fascination.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:58:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389894</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been sporadically searching for Davidson&apos;s Adventures in Unhistory, collected, since I was knee-high to something really short.

They probably aren&apos;t as good as I remember, but &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:37:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MiguelCardoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389902</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well crap, now I have to buy some Avram Davidson books. &lt;/i&gt;

Please note Hildago isn&apos;t  buying Davidson&apos;s books because of the great importance they give to  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/hidalgo.htm&quot;&gt;Hidalgo&lt;/a&gt;.  [&lt;small&gt;This is another public announcement in the &quot;Stop Misspelling Hildago&apos;s Nick&quot; campaign.&lt;/small&gt;]</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 03:30:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#389998</link>	
		<description>y2karl, you keep posting my personal landmarks.  I&apos;ve loved Davidson ever since I was knee-high to a grasshopper and he was editor of &lt;i&gt;The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction&lt;/i&gt;; his bemused, worldly/otherworldly, recondite Editor&apos;s Notes (and of course his dense and delightful stories) twisted the folds of my cortex and helped turn me into the Rosetta stoner I am today.  I looked for years for a copy of the adventures of Doctor Engelbert Eszterhazy, of the Triune Monarchy of Scythia- Pannonia-Transbalkania, and finally found one, and I&apos;m not lending it to anyone.  Last time I looked, almost all of his work was out of print, a sad commentary on the current state of sf (and America).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:23:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390027</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;ve loved Davidson ever since I was knee-high to a grasshopper and he was editor of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction; his bemused, worldly/otherworldly, recondite Editor&apos;s Notes (and of course his dense and delightful stories) twisted the folds of my cortex...&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, man, yes--those page-and-a-half story introductions and his book reviews, of which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/ephemera.htm#HPL&quot; title=&quot;...living on 19 cents worth of beans a day, rewriting (for pennies) the crappy MSS of writers whose complete illiteracy would have been a boon to all mankind; and producing ghastly, grisly, ghoulish and horrifying works of his own as well--of man-eating Things which foraged in graveyards, of human/beastie crosses which grew beastier and beastlier as they grew older, of gibbering shoggoths, and Elder Beings which smelt real bad and were always trying to break through Thresholds and Take Over--rugose, squamous, amorphous nasties, abetted by thin, gaunt New England eccentrics who dwelt in attics and who eventually Never Seen Or Heard From Again. Serve them damn well right, I say. In short, Howard was a twitch, boys and girls, and that&apos;s all there is to it. &quot;&gt;Avram Davidson on Howard Philips Lovecraft&lt;/a&gt;, from the inestimable &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/ephemera.htm&quot; title=&quot;A photograph of Avram Davidson: Portrait size or Snapshot size/ Avram Davidson on H.P. Lovecraft / Aaron Burr/ Hugh Leddy&apos;s Memoir of Avram Davidson in British Honduras/ The Bavenda&apos;s Sacred Beads by Eug&#232;ne Marais/ Avram Davidson &amp; Paul Metcalf by Gregory Feeley/ Englebert Kaempfer&apos;s Exotic Pleasures translated by Robert Carrubba (review essay)/ A Cabinet of Medical Curiosities by Jan Bondeson (review essay)/ William Cowper and &apos;&apos;The Cast-away&apos;&apos; / Avram Davidson in the land of Rus / Vergil and the Women/ Food in the writings of Avram Davidson / The House the Jackson Whites Built by Gregory Feeley / Avram &amp; the Masons / New York City / Immigrant Cultures and Parallel Structures in the Fiction of Avram Davidson / Janwillem Van de Wetering&apos;s reflections on Clash of Star Kings/ William Walker/ Herman Melville and Avram Davidson : Literary &amp; Geographical Intersections / Michael Swanwick - Collaborating with Avram Davidson / Two Science-Fiction Approaches to Bicycles (Avram Davidson &amp; Flann O&apos;Brien)/ Avram &amp; LSD : A Journey in the Haight Ashbury, 1967 by Hugh Leddy/ Avram Davidson &amp; Canada by Bruce Byfield/ Prising Averno by Gregory Feeley&quot;&gt;Ephemera &amp;amp; Digressions&lt;/a&gt; page, gives a flavor. Funny, you should comment, languagehat--I was just thinking you were certainly a Avram aficionado while noting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/wessells.htm&quot; title=&quot;Henry Wessel has lived near rivers most of his life--schuykill, seine, danube, rouge, mississippi, nile, platte, hudson and smaller streams. Water and language(s) are two of his obsessions&quot;&gt;Henry Wessel&lt;/a&gt;, who compiled the Avram Davidson website, shares a few interests with you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clavdivs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390101</link>	
		<description>dam it karl, your cutting into my x-mas list now. I must say, the tent of dr. Lao is getting stranger. I had barely heard of Davidson before. I found it interesting that the marines let him keep his beard. something Whitmanesque about that.

MeFi gold to our minister of kulturekarl.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:23:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: richardm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390136</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Last time I looked, almost all of his work was out of print&lt;/i&gt;

I think the The Avram Davidson Treasury collection is still in print.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:19:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390160</link>	
		<description>Another fine and interesting post from Karl. Thank you ! [*applauds*]</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:43:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390232</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think the The Avram Davidson Treasury collection is still in print.&lt;/i&gt;

And may I point out Michael Dirda&apos;s Washington Post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avramdavidson.org/dirda.htm&quot; title=&quot;Avram Davidson (1923-1993) was one of the most original and charming writers of our time. So, it almost goes without saying, he was generally neglected and undervalued during much of his career. For the most part this bearded Orthodox Jewish autodidact wrote what one might call fantasy, of a sort, sometimes drifting into the starry realms of science fiction and sometimes into the wild gardens of the antiquarian essay (see the wonderful -- and highly idiosyncratic -- Adventures in Unhistory). Grasping fruitlessly for comparisons, his admirers have likened Davidson to Saki, Chesterton, John Collier, Lafcadio Hearn, Kipling, even I.B. Singer and S.J. Perelman. And you can see what they mean. I would add that he frequently reminds me of the New Yorker writer Joseph Mitchell: Two similarly brilliant stylists with a compassionate interest in bohemians, losers, immigrant culture, New York, oddities, con artists, crackpot inventors, and the passing of humane, small-scale neighborhood life&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt; thereof?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 12:56:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390260</link>	
		<description>What a great review.  &quot;...his admirers have likened Davidson to Saki, Chesterton, John Collier, Lafcadio Hearn, Kipling, even I.B. Singer and S.J. Perelman. And you can see what they mean. I would add that he frequently reminds me of the New Yorker writer Joseph Mitchell...&quot;  Yes, I can see all of that: his pitch-perfect ear for registers of language and use thereof for the dryest of humor &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt; remind me of Perelman, for instance.  And now I&apos;m going to have to get the book.  In fact, I&apos;ve just added it and &lt;i&gt;The Other Nineteenth Century&lt;/i&gt; (&quot;This wonderfully eclectic and literate collection assembles most of the late author&apos;s short SF and fantasy not already reprinted in &lt;i&gt;The Avram Davidson Treasury&lt;/i&gt;&quot;) to my Amazon wish list, having been forbidden on pain of wifely torture to actually &lt;i&gt;buy&lt;/i&gt; books between now and the crypto-pagan holiday(s) during which we all fling gaudily wrapped parcels at one another.  But one way or another, it&apos;s gonna be my subway reading come January.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:32:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390339</link>	
		<description>The first time I heard of him was while listening to Selected Shorts on NPR. Leonard Nimoy read &lt;em&gt;The Golem&lt;/em&gt;. A great little story and I&apos;ve been eager to read more of his stuff. Thankfully, y2karl is a ballsy fellow.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:07:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390372</link>	
		<description>Dang, john, I missed that one. If it was from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kcrw.com/b/jss.html&quot;&gt;Jewish Short Stories&lt;/a&gt;, it&apos;s not archived yet, but look at what else they have--&lt;i&gt;The Place&lt;/i&gt; by Edith Konecky, read by Julie Kavner. &lt;i&gt;Gimpel the Fool&lt;/i&gt; by I.B. Singer, read by Eli Wallach and &lt;i&gt;A Meal For the Poor &lt;/i&gt;by Mordecai Spector, read by Alan King, among others. What voices they have listed. There&apos;s a bookmark.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:22:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21711/Avram-Davidson#390441</link>	
		<description>I googled for a while and found that site too, but alas, no trace of an online recording of Nimoy&apos;s performance. The only thing that came up was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wuga.org/guides/2001/april/aprguide.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; reference to it being played on April 15 2001.

That &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kcrw.com/b/jss.html&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; does remind me of a different project hosted by Jerry Stiller as Shalom the Story Peddler, &quot;My tales are so plentiful they reach around the earth and back again.&quot;

I heard part of that on NPR too. The portion that exists on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jclla.org/onepeople.htm&quot;&gt;CD #3&lt;/a&gt;. All fun stories. I especially enjoyed &lt;em&gt;The Feather Merchants&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;The Turkey Prince&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:17:11 -0800</pubDate>
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