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	<title>Comments on: David Cross</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:06:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>David Cross</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bobanddavid.com/section_davidscigar_cdrls.html"&gt;You&apos;ve been Crossed.&lt;/a&gt; Comedian&apos;s comedian &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Name?Cross,+David+(II)&quot;&gt;David Cross&lt;/a&gt; would rather open for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yolatengo.com/hanukkah02.html&quot;&gt;bands&lt;/a&gt; than typical comics and has had some funny roles in some unfunny &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120912&quot;&gt;movies&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0118364&quot;&gt;TV shows&lt;/a&gt;, but Cross has taken centre stage with his new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.subpop.com/bands/david_cross/shut_up_you_fucking_baby/&quot;&gt;double comedy album&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.subpop.com/scripts/main/bands_page.php?bandname=Cross,+Davi d&quot;&gt;Sub Pop&lt;/a&gt; and several &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n4/htdocs/my_america.php&quot;&gt;biting&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n5/htdocs/my_america.php&quot;&gt;columns&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n7/htdocs/my_america.php&quot;&gt;in&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n8/htdocs/my_america.php&quot;&gt;vice&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n9/htdocs/my_america.php&quot;&gt;magazine&lt;/a&gt;. There is also a newly published &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobanddavid.com/section_mrshow_mrshow_book.html&quot;&gt;behind-the 
-scenes look&lt;/a&gt; at his cult sketch comedy show (&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.hbo.com/product/VMHHV0233/s.lzKmFcvP&quot;&gt;&quot;Mr. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mrshow.com/&quot;&gt;Show&quot;&lt;/a&gt;) and 
Cross recently appeared at a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mccartonschool.org&quot;&gt;Autism&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.education.ucsb.edu/autism/&quot;&gt;fundraiser&lt;/a&gt; called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobanddavid.com/section_mrshow_clashrecap.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Clash of 
the Titans&quot;&lt;/a&gt; alongside his Mr. Show alumni and &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Name?Garofalo,%20Janeane&quot;&gt;Janeane Garafolo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insultcomicdog.com/&quot;&gt;Triumph the Insult Comic dog&lt;/a&gt; and 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kithfan.org/&quot;&gt;the Kids in the Hall&lt;/a&gt; (here is a 
related &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/titans_benefit/&quot;&gt;auction&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13889&quot;&gt;show review&lt;/a&gt;). Even 
though it looks like the feature &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ronniedobbs.com/&quot;&gt;&quot;Run Ronnie 
Run&quot;&lt;/a&gt; has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobanddavid.com/section_run.html&quot;&gt;shelved&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newline.com/&quot;&gt;New Line&lt;/a&gt;, the future is looking bright for Mr.
Cross (including the possible addition of more live dates for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bobanddavid.com/section_mrshow_hooray_america.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Hooray for America&quot;&lt;/a&gt; in the spring). For a brief look inside his mind, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nerve.com/screeningroom/music/davidcross/&quot;&gt;check&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ams.ubc.ca/citr/discorder/david.html&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1769826&quot;&gt;out&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:35:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395507</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a huge Mr. Show fan; I&apos;ve seen every episode, I read the behind the scenes book referenced in this post, and I even went to see the &quot;Hooray For America&quot; show when it came through Los Angeles.  So for those of you out there like me, who are sad &amp;amp; disappointed that you won&apos;t see Run Ronnie Run in theaters, I can only tell you:

a) you can download copies of it on P2P networks,  and
b) it&apos;s staggeringly, almost unwatchably stupid and lame.

New Line should be commended for shelving this horrific, unfunny waste of celluloid.</description>
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		<title>By: Espoo2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395525</link>	
		<description>just got the album....
havent listened yet but very intrigued...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:39:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jca</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395551</link>	
		<description>I just saw David on episode 9 of IFC&apos;s excellent show - DINNER FOR FIVE. He was absolutely hilarious - despite Dennis Leary trying to dominate with boring conversation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 05:10:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: birdherder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395560</link>	
		<description>david cross is god.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 06:18:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: angry modem</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395568</link>	
		<description>I downloaded a bootleg video of those two introducing Tool at their concert.  It involved one guy with an aging disease, who &quot;was probably going to keel over and fuckin&apos; die after about the first song or two.&quot;  Pretty hilarious stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 06:58:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sklero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395601</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;it&apos;s staggeringly, almost unwatchably stupid and lame&lt;/i&gt;

It&apos;s true.  A friend of mine knew somebody who knew somebody in L.A. who had a VHS copy of Run, Ronnie, Run.  All of us are die-hard Mr. Show fans.  But when I got up from watching Run, Ronnie, Run, I felt stupider for having seen it.  Nothing but heartbreak.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:42:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cadastral</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395612</link>	
		<description>RRR had enough groaners in it that you knew it had to have been &quot;test marketed&quot; into oblivion.  &lt;i&gt;Mr. Show &lt;/i&gt;missed, sometimes... but it didn&apos;t miss &apos;stupid&apos; like RRR does frequently.

If you&apos;re a die-hard fan, you have to see it.  There are enough diamonds in the rough to warrant an hour of your time.  Don&apos;t go in expecting genius (or even &apos;good&apos;), and you&apos;ll be fine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:08:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395619</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I just saw David on episode 9 of IFC&apos;s excellent show - DINNER FOR FIVE.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I watched that marathon yesterday too.  Cross was definitely the funny one in his group (Leary was really throwing around the &quot;I have this project going&quot; bullshit).  I thought Martha Plimpton was going to wet herself a couple of times.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:27:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tittergrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395620</link>	
		<description>Well, the Nerve article above focuses briefly on RRR, and David reinforces what he and Bob have been saying all along: they were kicked out of the editting room (by the director, I&apos;ve read other places) at the very beginning, and that the script they sold to them was a standard studio comedy.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well, it didn&apos;t magically end up sucking. The script wasn&apos;t that great to begin with. We didn&apos;t sell the first four versions. The one we were sold was a formulaic studio comedy. Bob and I found ourselves outside the filmmaking process. We weren&apos;t allowed to see dailies, we weren&apos;t in the editing room. Then, movies like Super Troopers and Joe Dirt and shit like that came out, and they didn&apos;t make a lot of money. We&apos;re part of an industry where studios are not interested in making three million dollars. They want to make forty million, and they&apos;re not interested in taking a gamble if it&apos;s only going to get them three. It&apos;s an absurd way to think.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Luckily, in the next paragraph he said that he and Bob are working on a new script that they want to direct themselves, which may be the best way to get a Mr. Show movie out there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:30:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395625</link>	
		<description>I just downloaded a track off the new album, and it&apos;s a recorded show from his last tour (which I saw in SF 6 months ago or so). If you missed it, you&apos;re in for a treat.

I saw RRR a couple months ago, and it did indeed suck. It felt a lot like a Saturday Night Live movie, where a funny 3 minute sketch becomes a 90 minute &quot;plot&quot; (also see: It&apos;s Pat, Stuart Smalley, The Roxbury Twins, etc.).

It&apos;s great to see the rest of the cast doing other stuff. I saw cast members on Greg the Bunny last year, Spongebob Squarepants is making Tom Kenny rich, and about the only redeeming quality of the new MTV animated show 3 South are the characters Brian Posehn voices.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:39:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tristeza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395633</link>	
		<description>I just have to say that as a sufferer of entitilitus, I thank God that we finally have a celebrity spokesman the caliber of Mr. Cross to enlighten to world to our distress in the face of this most awful condition.  I was hoping it&apos;d be Michael J. Fox, but beggars can&apos;t be choosers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:58:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brittney</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395640</link>	
		<description>I want to have, like, ten thousand of his babies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:19:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter H</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395643</link>	
		<description>it&apos;s been heavily rumored that cross is working on a comic book with al columbia, the guy who did cross&apos; eery stageset for &apos;the pride is back&apos; - and is one of the most recognized cartoonists of his generation - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biologicshow.com/images/action_suits.jpg&quot;&gt;here&apos;s some proof of that acclaim&lt;/a&gt; ..i can think of nothing cooler than that happening.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:22:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 2sheets</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395650</link>	
		<description>Maybe RRR seemed like a 3 minute SNL sketch stretched into a movie because it was a Mr. Show sketch stretched into a movie.
 I think these guys are great, but I really doubt they had a good script based on Ronnie Dobbs to begin with. It was a great recurring bit, and they covered his rise and fall already on the show. What the hell else were they going to do with it?

Here&apos;s to the future...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:45:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/21947/David-Cross#395654</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;it&apos;s been heavily rumored that cross is working on a comic book with al columbia&lt;/i&gt;

I just creamed my pants. Er, I mean, what a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sixteentongues.com/swollengland/goodpages/comic4.html&quot;&gt;delightful&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sixteentongues.com/swollengland/goodpages/comic5.html&quot;&gt;development&lt;/a&gt; to have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sixteentongues.com/swollengland/goodpages/comic1.html&quot;&gt;shared&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:55:30 -0800</pubDate>
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