GOP Agenda
December 4, 2002 8:49 AM Subscribe
Not to seem snarky or anything, but wasn't the time to do something about it last election day? People voted for the GOP, so they get to do what they want. Instead of protesting afterwards, wouldn't the most effective measure be to encourage people to vote for what they believe in?
posted by unreason at 9:06 AM on December 4, 2002
posted by unreason at 9:06 AM on December 4, 2002
"When we see anxiety and alienation manipulated for political gain, and people of all ages losing enthusiasm for democracy, we are moved to do whatever we can to make sure that our children and grandchildren grow and live in a society shaped by the American promise. People For the American Way gives us a way to help realize that promise."
Norman Lear, NFAW Founder
posted by four panels at 9:11 AM on December 4, 2002
Norman Lear, NFAW Founder
posted by four panels at 9:11 AM on December 4, 2002
The best thing democrats (or anyone that is anti-GOP) could do is register voters. Because of the demographic profiles of registered voters and unregistered potential voters I'd guess that a solid 75% of newly registered voters would vote democrat or green. Given how close the last few races have been, I think a big push to register voters would help the democrats more than the GOP.
posted by chris0495 at 9:13 AM on December 4, 2002
posted by chris0495 at 9:13 AM on December 4, 2002
You're absolutely right, unreason. The Democrats in Congress should debate vigorously but not thwart legislation with parliamentary tricks. That way, voters will have a clear choice in the next national election, in 2004.
posted by Holden at 9:15 AM on December 4, 2002
posted by Holden at 9:15 AM on December 4, 2002
No, the best thing Democrats could do is join the Republican party and push the party to the left. It's the same with the NRA, if all the Anti-Gun nuts joined the Gun nuts in the NRA, suddenly the NRA wouldn't be PRO gun, it would be ANTI gun.
posted by blue_beetle at 9:28 AM on December 4, 2002
posted by blue_beetle at 9:28 AM on December 4, 2002
Pushing the Republican party to the left? The NRA would become anti-gun because of an 5% increase in membership? Maybe prolife people should join NOW and the prochoice crowd could start going to christian coalition meetings.
Why anyone would think that new outsiders could easily dominate old insiders and turn purposeful PACs into organizations antithetical to their original mission is anyone's guess.
posted by chris0495 at 9:46 AM on December 4, 2002
Why anyone would think that new outsiders could easily dominate old insiders and turn purposeful PACs into organizations antithetical to their original mission is anyone's guess.
posted by chris0495 at 9:46 AM on December 4, 2002
I'm no fan of the "GOP social agenda," but I don't understand how this is worthy of a front-page post. First, duh. If the Democrats had control of the white house and both houses of congress, you can bet your ass that they'd be "looking to move their social agenda." Second, this post basically exists to say: "I think this is bad -- if you do, too, you might consider this organization." I hate to think that's what MeFi is for.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:52 AM on December 4, 2002
posted by pardonyou? at 9:52 AM on December 4, 2002
How many democrat social agendas want to give tax funds to religious institutions for charities, while letting them continue to freely discriminate against all they wish to discriminate against. "Yes, I know you're a hungry homeless person, but our soup kitchen funding by the US Government is for good christian people only."
How many democrat social agendas try sell a completely impractical concept of abstinance, with no alternatives given. "AIDs? Nah, that's only for dirty homos."
How many democrat social agendas support pro-family concepts, while not including all families, only ones that are man-woman-2.3 child-dog? "See my beautiful wife and 2.3 kids? Sorry about the .3 of a kid, I know that's kind of troubling to look at. God bless us all."
posted by benjh at 10:01 AM on December 4, 2002
How many democrat social agendas try sell a completely impractical concept of abstinance, with no alternatives given. "AIDs? Nah, that's only for dirty homos."
How many democrat social agendas support pro-family concepts, while not including all families, only ones that are man-woman-2.3 child-dog? "See my beautiful wife and 2.3 kids? Sorry about the .3 of a kid, I know that's kind of troubling to look at. God bless us all."
posted by benjh at 10:01 AM on December 4, 2002
PFAW is a first class organization and worthy of support.
Good post.
posted by baudboy at 10:07 AM on December 4, 2002
Good post.
posted by baudboy at 10:07 AM on December 4, 2002
I don't understand how this is worthy of a front-page post.
It's not, and it won't be here for long.
baudboy: So we should all post ads for our favorite organizations on the front page of MeFi?
posted by languagehat at 10:14 AM on December 4, 2002
It's not, and it won't be here for long.
baudboy: So we should all post ads for our favorite organizations on the front page of MeFi?
posted by languagehat at 10:14 AM on December 4, 2002
Us Dems should get ourselves a Bush. That way, we can get our sorry bunch of candidates elected & everyone will have medical coverage, decent living wage, and pony rides! Maybe a clown would come to your birthday party!
Honestly, I don't like the GOP social agenda, but donating $20 to PFAW doesn't really feel like it will help anything. Neither does signing a fucking online petition, or even demonstrating publicly. Liberals have so many blockades against them that it seems too daunting to do much of anything. We truly need a leader to pull us out of this & help us remember that concentrated action will produce results (not just sending off a check).
posted by password at 10:20 AM on December 4, 2002
Honestly, I don't like the GOP social agenda, but donating $20 to PFAW doesn't really feel like it will help anything. Neither does signing a fucking online petition, or even demonstrating publicly. Liberals have so many blockades against them that it seems too daunting to do much of anything. We truly need a leader to pull us out of this & help us remember that concentrated action will produce results (not just sending off a check).
posted by password at 10:20 AM on December 4, 2002
Washington Post link. Political advocacy link. How exactly are you filtering the Web?
Once again:
Matt has stated many times that "MetaFilter isn't the place to advance your political viewpoint".
Matt is our host. We are his guests. Maybe one day people will finally start to read the guidelines and the FAQ, and pay attention to his wishes.
posted by fuzz at 11:15 AM on December 4, 2002
Once again:
Matt has stated many times that "MetaFilter isn't the place to advance your political viewpoint".
Matt is our host. We are his guests. Maybe one day people will finally start to read the guidelines and the FAQ, and pay attention to his wishes.
posted by fuzz at 11:15 AM on December 4, 2002
Matt has stated many times that "MetaFilter isn't the place to advance your political viewpoint".
No, you don't understand... Those rules are for other people, not me!
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Is it just my bias view, or has anyone else noticed that the Pro-Right-Wing™ posts have stopped, but the daily Bush-Is-Evil™ posts continue to drum on...?
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2002
No, you don't understand... Those rules are for other people, not me!
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Is it just my bias view, or has anyone else noticed that the Pro-Right-Wing™ posts have stopped, but the daily Bush-Is-Evil™ posts continue to drum on...?
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2002
Steve, that kind of "It's not fair, he started it, not me! MOM!!" comment is part of the problem. Once upon a time you impressed me by making a pledge not to feed the trolls, now you're back under the bridge with them.
posted by fuzz at 12:01 PM on December 4, 2002
posted by fuzz at 12:01 PM on December 4, 2002
Since we're apparently going to use the large MeFi distribution as part of activist agendas, here's a link if you want to support the GOP. Which, believe it or not, a lot of Americans do.
posted by MidasMulligan at 12:45 PM on December 4, 2002
posted by MidasMulligan at 12:45 PM on December 4, 2002
Midas, if you happen to see this comment before this thread gets deleted, could you maybe drop me a line and explain why someone with an objectivist nick is an apparent supporter of Bush/GOP, who generally seem like a bunch of "looters" as Rand would say? I've never quite understood it. Sorry: wouldn't have put this here but there's no e-mail in your profile.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 1:01 PM on December 4, 2002
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 1:01 PM on December 4, 2002
Is it just my bias view, or has anyone else noticed that the Pro-Right-Wing™ posts have stopped, but the daily Bush-Is-Evil™ posts continue to drum on...?
the only obvious conclusion is that since the internet was popularized largely by colleges, and colleges are breeding grounds for liberals, then people who use the internet have an obvious pro-liberal agenda.
posted by mcsweetie at 1:39 PM on December 4, 2002
the only obvious conclusion is that since the internet was popularized largely by colleges, and colleges are breeding grounds for liberals, then people who use the internet have an obvious pro-liberal agenda.
posted by mcsweetie at 1:39 PM on December 4, 2002
With Democrats no longer blocking their way in the Senate, President Bush and Republican congressional leaders plan a more vigorous push on their social policy agenda by trying to limit abortions, provide greater support to religious groups and increase funding for sexual abstinence and fatherhood programs, according to White House officials and key lawmakers
OMG, Republicans want to restrict partial birth abortions, reduce teenage promiscuity, and promote traditional two parent families. Oh the horrors!
posted by Beholder at 2:11 PM on December 4, 2002
OMG, Republicans want to restrict partial birth abortions, reduce teenage promiscuity, and promote traditional two parent families. Oh the horrors!
posted by Beholder at 2:11 PM on December 4, 2002
My suggestion: the coastal states all seceed into canada. See, it's just that simple to find a solution that makes everyone happy!
posted by NGnerd at 3:26 PM on December 4, 2002
posted by NGnerd at 3:26 PM on December 4, 2002
OMG, Republicans want to restrict partial birth abortions, reduce teenage promiscuity, and promote traditional two parent families. Oh the horrors!
Now I may be a bit naive but it seems like the GOP's "Social Agenda" wants to go a bit further than this...
posted by aaronscool at 3:37 PM on December 4, 2002
Now I may be a bit naive but it seems like the GOP's "Social Agenda" wants to go a bit further than this...
posted by aaronscool at 3:37 PM on December 4, 2002
I thought this thread was about how to meet Republican women on the social register. I guess I was wrong.
posted by Slagman at 7:07 PM on December 4, 2002
posted by Slagman at 7:07 PM on December 4, 2002
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