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	<title>Comments on: Old Christmas Tree Lights</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:16:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Old Christmas Tree Lights</title>
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		<description>Another &quot;magnificent obsession&quot; site, seasonally spiced: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com&quot;&gt;oldchristmaslights.com&lt;/a&gt; is a huge attic space, packed to the rafters with illuminating images and information; history and pre-history, manufacturer backgrounds, timeline, patents, vintage advertising, trivia - it&apos;s all here, plus a &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/the_light_sets.htm&quot;&gt;Light Set Gallery&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and more. Plug in and enjoy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:15:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>taz</dc:creator>		<category>vintage</category>		<category>Christmas</category>		<category>lights</category>		<category>Christmaslights</category>		<category>collection</category>		<category>obsession</category>		<category>retro</category>		<category>gallery</category>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399611</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a tremendous amount of material packed away into various niches and crannies; in addition to the featured bits, site-owner Bill also stores collections &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/contributor&apos;s_pages.htm&quot;&gt; for others&lt;/a&gt; and offers &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/dating_hints_and_helps.htm&quot;&gt;hints and help on dating your lights&lt;/a&gt;. There are some other &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/vintage_tree_photos.htm&quot;&gt;old photos&lt;/a&gt; tucked away in a box, as well as a set of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/vintage_novelty_lights.htm&quot;&gt;novelty light figures&lt;/a&gt; and such items of interest as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/bill&apos;s_notebook.htm&quot;&gt;Bill&apos;s notebook&lt;/a&gt;, where he keeps track of new finds and does some light sleuthing &lt;small&gt;(&quot;light sleuthing&quot; - get it? Get it?)&lt;/small&gt;.

Like last year&apos;s string of twinkle lights, this place is a tangle of bright threads that can take some time to unravel... Aluminum trees? You want &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/aluminum_trees_page_2.htm&quot;&gt;aluminum trees&lt;/a&gt;? The 1959 prototype model looks pretty &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/4%20foot%20aluminum%20tree.jpg&quot;&gt;scrawny&lt;/a&gt; compared to its far &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/keystone%20brand%204%20footer.jpg&quot;&gt;groovier&lt;/a&gt; 1963 offspring that sported such defining fillips as &quot;pom-poms&quot; (&quot;&lt;i&gt;Expect to pay a premium price for a pink tree, the rarest of all of the colors offered. Trees of any color that are especially full, or have the pom-pom branch ends will also command a premium price.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; History of the infamous silvery tree &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/aluminum_trees.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.) Check the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/table_of_contents.htm&quot;&gt;Contents&lt;/a&gt; page for a more complete listing, and if you are looking for something specific, you can also find the search function there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:16:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sebas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399613</link>	
		<description>Thanks taz, that&apos;s a great site. I never knew there were people collecting christmas lights, let alone making an extensive site about them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 03:46:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399618</link>	
		<description>What a fabulous find, taz - absolutely beautiful page, and like sebas, I had no idea that holiday lights would be such a collectible. The variety is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/Bubble_Replacement_Box_inside.jpg&quot;&gt;far&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/Kristal_Stars_inside.jpg&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/Matchless_Stars_inside.jpg&quot;&gt;extensive&lt;/a&gt; than I ever realized. I also love all the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/Polly_Outside.jpg&quot;&gt;cool packaging&lt;/a&gt; of days gone by. Great site!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 05:33:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399620</link>	
		<description>The idea of having electrical christmas lights has always seemed strange - and a little sacriligeous - when you&apos;ve been brought up with the idea that the only real christmas lights are wax candles (on a real christmas tree).

This is with almost no exception the way it is done in Denmark  and Scandinavia, but is anybody still using real candles in America?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:YWLTVmelZe8C:nemoris.50megs.com/22804.JPG&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 05:42:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JanetLand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399622</link>	
		<description>When I was a kid, candles were the terribly dangerous things that people *had* to use on their trees before Christmas lights were invented and wasn&apos;t I lucky to be living in an age where Christmas trees were safe.  I wasn&apos;t told this in so many words, but that was definitely the impression I got.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 06:13:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benjh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399623</link>	
		<description>I wouldn&apos;t necessarily call it sacrilegious considering &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_tree.htm&quot;&gt;origins&lt;/a&gt; of the christmas tree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 06:19:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399624</link>	
		<description>cx, I can only find a &lt;a href=&quot;http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:G-Cq_pPQIlAC:www.nd.edu/~kkiessel/home.html+%22Here+is+a+photo+of+our+Christmas+tree+from+1999%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&quot;&gt;couple&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:SEE3kluKivYC:www.crabcoll.com/journal/Christmas.html+%22The+twinkle+of+real+candles%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&quot;&gt;examples&lt;/a&gt; (google caches; scroll to find the highlighted sections) on the web, and these two families both have some kind of connection to Germany...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 06:23:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: footballrabi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399633</link>	
		<description>Thank you, taz.  I&apos;m almost shaking with delight.  I agree with madamjujujive about the packaging and advertising.  Having that stuff makes this site incredible, but that&apos;s only the tip of the iceburg.  Wow.

I&apos;ll be using C7 ceramic multicolor lights on the tree this year.  First time since I was a kid.  Can&apos;t wait.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:10:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399640</link>	
		<description>We had this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/Santa%20Glo%20inside.jpg&quot;&gt;guy &lt;/a&gt;, bubblers galore, snowman bulbs with the paint worn off--I like this post. In the 60s there was an antique store  that used to be on Stewart Street near the Coffee Corral, whose owner collected old christmas lights, so I knew there was a market in these even back then</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:36:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399641</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t have the time this AM to check it out here but wasn&apos;t it something like carbon tetrachloride that was the liquid in those bubblers? Not exactly EPA approved--I wonder what they use now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:39:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stonerose</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399642</link>	
		<description>Got a Mac? Check out the NightLights screensaver (freeware) available from Apple&apos;s downloads page. Your choice of minis and/or C7&apos;s, on your desktop. I&apos;m alternating it with the Loops fireplace screensaver for maximum digital holiday goodness without the bother of kindling, burnt out bulbs, etc. Sentimental me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:42:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399645</link>	
		<description>y2karl, it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inform.umd.edu/CampusInfo/Departments/EnvirSafety/compliance/factsheet/methylenechloride.html&quot;&gt;methylene chloride&lt;/a&gt;. Anatomy of the bubble light &lt;a href=&quot;http://oldchristmaslights.com/anatomy%20of%20a%201948%20NOMA%20bubble%20light.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399657</link>	
		<description>Dear taz, you&apos;ve made my day. I&apos;m a nut about old Christmas lights, and these links are wonderful. Some of the gorgeous packaging images are destined to be wallpaper for my desktop.

Just last week I scored 4 strings of old yellow/red and blue/green bubble lights from my mother-in-law, all still in the original boxes. This morning I found 2 boxes of vintage (from the 40s) German hand blown glass ornaments (figures of clowns and snowmen and gingerbread houses and lanterns and dice) and one box of vintage (50s I think) mercury glass balls in the thrift shop down the street from me. The boxes (24 in each box) were selling for 4.00 each. I almost hyperventilated. 

Is there a site that does a constant screen of a burning Yule log (like some televison channels in days of yore) on Chrismas Eve/day? That would be a kick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:40:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sebas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399660</link>	
		<description>I used to have a string of christmas light in my room, it was from my parents and would be over 30 years old now. I needed a plug so I cut that off, think I threw the rest away.

Oops.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:42:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399669</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is there a site that does a constant screen of a burning Yule log...?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://wpix.feedroom.com/?rf=bm&quot;&gt;WPIX&lt;/a&gt; in NYC has a yule log page with a few music selections to go along with it. They will even be running the video on TV Christmas morning. Only for a couple of hours though.

Click on the link, then choose &quot;Yule Log&quot; off to the left. Depending on your browser, you may also have to click the &quot;Enter&quot; tab to get to the feed room. Or just go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://wb11.trb.com/&quot;&gt;wb11.trb.com&lt;/a&gt; and click through. 

Enjoy!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 09:08:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399688</link>	
		<description>Splendid site!

Now if only I could find one selling the bamboo Christmas trees like those used in the Philippines....</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 09:47:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399781</link>	
		<description>Thanks, lampshade - I can&apos;t wait. And music, too!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:59:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399813</link>	
		<description>Taz, you made my day, too. I was just sitting down at Metafilter to take a break from the arduous task of stringing lights and I found your post. And if anyone needs a nice string of animated Christmas lights to liven up an email, there are 3 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nativeflair.com/Christmas/Page9.html&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:08:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399834</link>	
		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.nativeflair.com/Christmas/1-HolidayMedia/LightString3.gif&quot;&gt;
How Christmas-ish!

I guess I would be considered something of a freak if I were to put real candles on my Christmas tree in the U.S. Still, I&apos;d rather be a freak in that way since - as it is said in a Danish Christmas carol (my &quot;translation&quot;): Just turn the Universe upside down, the Earth as well - since it&apos;s in empty and false, just don&apos;t tamper with the old Christmas of mine.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:38:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399858</link>	
		<description>Wow. I found one of those &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sixtiesstuff.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?DT=2 &quot;&gt;pink aluminum trees&lt;/a&gt;, going for about $1,000 US.

Iconomy, here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/collectibles/radko/xmas/vintage/album1.html&quot;&gt;a page&lt;/a&gt; especially for you (I love &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/collectibles/radko/xmas/vintage/0109510.jpg&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;). Sorry rushmc, couldn&apos;t find a bamboo tree - how &apos;bout a nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://sim.soe.umich.edu/parol/action.lasso?-database=assmtResponses&amp;-layout=art&amp;-response=singleview.html&amp;-recordID=33016&amp;-search&amp;-Token.currentAssignmentID=50&quot;&gt;parol&lt;/a&gt;? (many more &lt;a href=&quot;http://sim.soe.umich.edu/parol/action.lasso?-Database=assmtResponses&amp;assignmentID=50&amp;-Layout=art&amp;-Response=gallery.html&amp;-Search&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:05:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399913</link>	
		<description>Cool, I somehow missed the whole parol thing the Christmas I spent in the Philippines.  Thanks for the links, taz!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:38:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#399979</link>	
		<description>I love those as well, taz, especially &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/collectibles/radko/xmas/vintage/0109830.jpg&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; - Christopher Radko ornaments are incredibly dear (about 40 US dollars for a small new one - I can&apos;t even begin to imagine how much the old ones go for, although I&apos;ve seen 400.00 ones on ebay) and I don&apos;t own any, but would love to have just one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:57:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22147/Old-Christmas-Tree-Lights#400237</link>	
		<description>Iconomy, the first Christmas we were together, my true love gave to me a Radko Frankenstein...cause ya know-- nothin&apos; says &quot;Our First Christmas&quot; like a monster head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:20:42 -0800</pubDate>
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