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	<title>Comments on: Score one for the RIAA</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:57:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Score one for the RIAA</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.gnutella.com/news/5743"&gt;Score one for the RIAA.&lt;/a&gt; I don&apos;t know if this slipped below the Mefi radar, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdcovers.cc/&quot;&gt;CD Covers&lt;/a&gt; has been successfully targeted by the RIAA.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:56:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wulfgar!</dc:creator>		<category>riaa</category>		<category>cdcovers</category>
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		<title>By: Wulfgar!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400513</link>	
		<description>If this is a double post, please delete it with dignity...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:57:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wulfgar!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: boltman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400529</link>	
		<description>Frankly, I&apos;m surprised it took them this long.  The free availability of high-res labels and jackets almost certainly increases the value of, and thus the demand for, pirated CDs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:18:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>boltman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Samizdata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400537</link>	
		<description>Nope.  Knew about it a while back.  A good place for a lot of that style of news is &lt;a  _top href=&quot;http://www.zeropaid.com&quot;&gt;ZeroPaid&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:30:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Samizdata</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cinderful</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400544</link>	
		<description>More like score one for millions of designers having their copyrighted artwork being protected.

although, I can&apos;t say that I would have cared had it been my own work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:41:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cinderful</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: infowar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400549</link>	
		<description>I would have thought that the designers did work for hire meaning no royalties would be paid anyway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:47:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400576</link>	
		<description>Yeah I think the point is more value adding to pirated CDs, than pirating copyrighted visual artworks works.  I doubt people who design cover artwork for CDs get paid on a per-unit-shifted basis.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:38:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jimbob</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 11235813</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400580</link>	
		<description>designers who designer cd covers are NOT PAID ROYALTIES. they&apos;re paid once ... end of story

so it&apos;s not really any damage to them if the work is shared over the net; they&apos;ve already been paid all they&apos;re going to be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:41:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>11235813</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dillonlikescookies</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400603</link>	
		<description>I wish some well respected cracker would make an announcement declaring war on the RIAA. That would be cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:49:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dillonlikescookies</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400731</link>	
		<description>I have over 250 full albums I haven&apos;t paid a penny for, and I will continue to download as much music as I possibly can. 

Although impossible, if the RIAA was able to somehow keep all music off the internet, then i&apos;ll make a quick buck selling my MP3 Cd&apos;s to people. &lt;b&gt;No one can stop me&lt;/b&gt;. Not when theres thousands of people out there all over the world who think just like me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:04:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hoskala</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400776</link>	
		<description>Keyser Soze! You are just the sort of idiot these record companies are fighting back at! If you would use P2P to learn about new music, like a giant music library, it would almost certainly increase CD sales and they wouldn&apos;t have to do stupid things like copy protection and shutting down sites etc. 

How can you think that it is your right (yeah freedom of speech and fuck the bisnes) to copy anything you desire?

It is stealing. And there is no excuse. Real living musicians and artists have to be paid for the work they do. People like you really make me mad.

Buy music, don&apos;t steal it. (I use Kazaa to hear new music easily. It has made me buy more records than ever before.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:18:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hoskala</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 11235813</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400823</link>	
		<description>keyser soze that kinda attitude is rather horrid and completely juvenile ... and that is the EXACT reason why the RIAA, MPAA are on their anti-piracy campaign; that attitude is the EXACT reason why internet radio broadcasters can no longer continue, it is the exact reason why the SSSCA has been proposed and why venture capitalists are no longer willing to invest in media technology that hilary rosen and jack valenti don&apos;t sign off on; .... so thank you for that;

hell ... if you&apos;ve that kinda attitude, you&apos;re not even contributing to the community library and network that you share on ... you&apos;re a FREELOADER;

for every album i download, i probably legitimatly buy one as well ... which i then rip to high bitrate ogg, and share it; altho in the eyes of the RIAA my action is probably totally unjustifiable, file sharing has lead me to buy sooo much more music, see more shows and has exposed me to so much more as well;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ed\26h</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400890</link>	
		<description>Yeah... I can&apos;t be bothered to go into why, I&apos;ll leave that to the two people above me, but Soze, you are a proper twat.

cdcovers.cc was basically and flagrantly infringing copyright. Nothing to complain about there, so, no change really.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:11:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ed\26h</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ed\26h</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#400907</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wish some well respected cracker would make an announcement declaring war on the RIAA. That would be cool.
posted by Dillonlikescookies at 6:49 PM PST on December 9 &lt;/i&gt;

Why would it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:35:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sesquipedalia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#401097</link>	
		<description>OK, the path this discussion has taken is bringing up a question.

Over the last fifteen years or so, I&apos;ve built up a library of maybe 800 CDs -- but hardly any of my money has gone towards artist royalties or even the RIAA.  This is due to the fact that I&apos;ve done 99% of my shopping at used-CD stores.  Other than gifts, I haven&apos;t bought a single brand-new CD in years.  (My money goes lots farther that way; I won&apos;t spend more than $8 or $9 for a CD unless it&apos;s something I&apos;ve wanted for a long long time, and I often find surprisingly good stuff for $5 or $6.)

A fraction of these are promos / cutouts etc, but the bulk of them are just regular CDs that someone else bought new and sold to the store.

Am I contributing to the death of the recording industry?

Also: what if Keyzer sent a small donation to each artist whose music he&apos;s downloaded?  He could send them more than twice their royalty and it would still be a dramatic savings to him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:47:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sesquipedalia</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dillonlikescookies</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#401507</link>	
		<description>Why? Because I think the best solution would be all out war between crackers and the RIAA.

Call me idealistic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:06:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dillonlikescookies</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ed\26h</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#401604</link>	
		<description>In what way would that be good?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:01:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ed\26h</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hoskala</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22190/Score-one-for-the-RIAA#401633</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;war between crackers and the RIAA&lt;/i&gt;

There should be a war between CD buyers and the crackers and freeloaders who pay nothing for the music they download.

It shouldn&apos;t be too hard to understand that musicians can&apos;t make music for their living if nobody pays them.

I think that the companies (and the RIAA) have taken wrong methods to beat the criminals. For example &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25274.html&quot;&gt;CD copy protection&lt;/a&gt; is harming legal customer rights. The pirates aren&apos;t affected. I have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106882&amp;SaveKCWindowURL=http%3A%2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePage&amp;searchMode=Assisted&amp;kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com&amp;showButton=false&amp;randomValue=100&amp;showSurvey=false&amp;sessionID=anonymous|159573371&quot;&gt;Mac&lt;/a&gt; and I can&apos;t listen to new records issued by the large companies. That means I&apos;ll be listening to lots of jazz and marginal music in the near future... :-)

I&apos;m just wondering what happens in a few years time when most of the people have a DVD player instead of an audio-CD-player...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2002 04:47:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hoskala</dc:creator>
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