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	<title>Comments on: 95-year old WTC concept</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:08:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>95-year old WTC concept</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/gaudihotel.html"&gt;Gaudi&apos;s Grand Hotel&lt;/a&gt; During his life, Barcelona&#8217;s &#8220;bauharoque&#8221; architect &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antonigaudi.net/&quot;&gt;Antonin Gaud&#237;&lt;/a&gt; pioneered imaginative structures with Moorish spires and whimsy likened to Dr Seuss. &lt;small&gt;(Counter to popular myth, however, the word &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/61/9/G0060900.html&quot;&gt;&#8220;gaudy&#8221;&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; among his legacy.)&lt;/small&gt;  Several of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaudi2002.bcn.es/english/obras/index.htm&quot;&gt;his works&lt;/a&gt; broke his patrons&#8217; budgets and remain unfinished.  Now, Boston artist-architect &lt;b&gt;Paul Laffoley&lt;/b&gt; is attempting to revive Gaudi&#8217;s dramatic &lt;a href=&quot;http://24.46.42.210:1818/Sinehead/Gaudi2.html&quot;&gt;1908 New York City concept&lt;/a&gt; and give it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--attacks-historicp0121jan21,0,61149.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire&quot;&gt;a second chance&lt;/a&gt;&#8212;at the WTC site for which it may originally have been commissioned.  His thesis is both an intriguing history walk and a cloying, self-ingratiating, told-you-so piece.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 06:28:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyboy</dc:creator>		<category>AntoninGaudi</category>		<category>architecture</category>		<category>PaulLaffoley</category>		<category>WTC</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420492</link>	
		<description>via, ahem, gag-me-with-a-yuppie-spoon &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gawker.com/&quot;&gt;Gawker&lt;/a&gt;?

Laffoley is, to say the least, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dilettantepress.com/Artisthtdocs/Paul_Laffoley.html&quot;&gt;an unusual character&lt;/a&gt;. 
The drawing is not bad, certainly not worse than other WTC projects (like the infamous &quot;Godzilla&apos;s hockey goal&quot;) It&apos;s probably a step in the right direction. Even if it&apos;s a prank</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:08:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrew cooke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420493</link>	
		<description>thanks for the etymology of gaudy - someone claimed exactly that the other day in conversation and i never checked.  now if only i could remember who it was.  incidentally, that second meaning of gaudy (the dinner) isn&apos;t in common use in the uk, as far as i know (and it&apos;s marked in my concise oxford dictionary as &quot;not US&quot;).  maybe it&apos;s an oxford thing (don&apos;t remember it at cambridge and those two universities seem to have a monopoly on using silly words to make otherwise simple things obscure).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:09:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gottabefunky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420528</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Antonio Gaudi expressed Barcelona&apos;s Islamic and Gothic heritage through riotously polychrome biomorphic forms.&lt;/i&gt;

That&apos;ll go over well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:59:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pollomacho</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420549</link>	
		<description>The Reina Sofia museum in Madrid just wrapped up a huge Gaudi exhibit, very interesting!  Here&apos;s some further &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaudi2002.bcn.es/castellano/index.htm&quot;&gt;Gaudi info &lt;/a&gt;[in Spanish] neat stuff!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:24:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lisa g</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420550</link>	
		<description>Um, in that first link, has anyone else gotten to the point where the author claims that, on 9/9/01, a demon sent by Satan to &quot;bring down a ladder in New York City&quot; (ie, the Twin Towers) instead sees the author climbing a real ladder, knocks it down, and enters the author&apos;s ankle in the form of an infectious inflammatory disease?

That said, I do like the Gaudi design about ten times more than anything else that&apos;s been proposed for the former WTC site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:24:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sidhedevil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420589</link>	
		<description>&quot;incidentally, that second meaning of gaudy (the dinner) isn&apos;t in common use in the uk, as far as i know&quot;

Perhaps you are familiar with a little book by one Dorothy L. Sayers, namely &quot;Gaudy Night?&quot;  H&apos;m?  H&apos;m?

And, yes, it&apos;s an Oxford thing.  They still have &apos;em, too.  Here in the US, we call it &quot;Homecoming,&quot; and the accent is more on the football game than on the College plate and vintage claret.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:02:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420640</link>	
		<description>Matteo:  Hadn&apos;t ever heard of Gawker (got my tip from BBC World on the AM telly), but I appreciate the link, esp leading to the NYTimes article.

Lisa G: Right on.  Gaudi&apos;s rocket is shocking at first glance, but I have to agree that it&apos;s much more compelling than the ones commissioned by the LMDC so far.

Gawker points to a Salon piece about a new short by Richard Linklater.  It sounds like he&apos;s found &lt;a href=&quot;http://salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2003/01/21/linklater_wtc/index.html&quot;&gt;an even better idea&lt;/a&gt; from the wondrous spirulina mind of Tim &quot;Speed&quot; Levitch.  (If you _heart_ NYC, run out and rent &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/Title?0150230&quot;&gt;The Cruise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:49:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sharksandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420641</link>	
		<description>We need a whole FPP on Laffoley. I tried reading an interview with him (from Disinformation-The Interviews), needless to say my head hurt as a result.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:52:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snez</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420761</link>	
		<description>Syd Mead (the illustrator best known for his work on Blade Runner and Tron) has his own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sydmead.com/features/wtc/&quot;&gt;wtc proposal&lt;/a&gt;.   And if you like Gaudi, you might like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaudiclub.com/ingles/i_partici/origamic.asp&quot;&gt;this exhibit&lt;/a&gt; of Gaudi buildings done as origamic architecture.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:08:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: samelborp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#420892</link>	
		<description>Beware with this Laffoley guy... Someone that writes that &lt;i&gt;The best translators of Basque on the Spanish side of the border speak Catalan (a mixture of Basque and Spanish)&lt;/i&gt; is NUTS.

Not to mention the Basque Curse connection.

Who&apos;s this guy?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:40:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gompa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#421087</link>	
		<description>Great links, skyboy. Thanks. 

While I strongly doubt that this&apos;ll ever come to pass (I can&apos;t imagine a non-American, even a dead one, being accepted as the project&apos;s lead architect), I have to say I think it&apos;s a fantastic idea. 

Anyone who&apos;s spent any time in Barcelona quickly learns just how powerful Gaudi&apos;s architecture is. Gaudi&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greatbuildings.com/architects/Antonio_Gaudi.html&quot;&gt;undulating apartment buildings &lt;/a&gt;bring life to entire city blocks. The Sagrada Familia is simply breathtaking in its size and elaborate detail. And Gaudi&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Park_Guell.html&quot;&gt;Park Guell &lt;/a&gt;is among the most inspiring manmade public spaces on the planet. 

In fact, I remember thinking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gaudiallgaudi.com/AA010c.htm&quot;&gt;Park Guell&apos;s long swerving benches covered in embedded bits of busted crockery &lt;/a&gt;as I watched footage of the debris being cleared from the WTC site. Thinking: that&apos;s what they should build there, an American Park Guell. This long-forgotten skyscraper would be amazing as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:04:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#421132</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m with Speed Levitch.  Buffalo would be perfect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:55:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the big lizard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#421216</link>	
		<description>I love it!  We&apos;ll call it the TOWER OF DILDOES!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrew cooke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/22978/95year-old-WTC-concept#421378</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Perhaps you are familiar with a little book by one Dorothy L. Sayers, namely &quot;Gaudy Night?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

errr, no.  i&apos;ll try finding it - hope it&apos;s better than la sagrada familia (which i found a real wash-out - a disappointingly small scale construction site).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:54:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>andrew cooke</dc:creator>
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