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	<title>Comments on: My Father, the Cyborg</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:21:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>My Father, the Cyborg</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21a01401.htm"&gt;The Soul of a New Machine&lt;/a&gt; is the title of an article in the Chronicle of Higher Education about the recent proliferation of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/Haraway/CyborgManifesto.html&quot; title=&quot;Excerpt of Donna Haraway&apos;s &apos;Cyborg Manifesto&apos;&quot;&gt;cyborgs&lt;/a&gt; in the humanities. Growing outside of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/03/22/human.cyborg/&quot; title=&quot;Professor Warwicks&apos; brave experiment in cybernetics&quot;&gt;science&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.androidworld.com/prod22.htm&quot; title=&quot;The Laws of Robotics&quot;&gt;inspired&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfsite.com/lists/pkd11.htm&quot; title=&quot;Philip K. Dick reading list&quot;&gt;science fiction&lt;/a&gt;, cyborgs have invaded &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mises.org/misesreview_detail.asp?control=205&amp;sortorder=issue&quot; title=&quot;Machine Dreams: Economics Becomes a Cyborg Science&quot;&gt;economics&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://iaaa.nl/hh/face/cyborg.html&quot; title=&quot;Introductory statement for the Cyborg Panel at the 94th Annual Meeting of the American Anthropological Association, Washington D.C., November 15-19, 1995.&quot;&gt;anthropology&lt;/a&gt;, and even &lt;a href=&quot;http://gnosis.cx/publish/mertz/cyborg.html&quot; title=&quot;Cyborg Bodies Revisited: The Poststructuralist Remedy to Postmodernism&quot;&gt;philosophy&lt;/a&gt;.  Cyborgs are indeed taking over the academic world. &lt;a href=&quot;http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/research_projects/biotechnology.html&quot; title=&quot;This was hard to find. doesn&apos;t say &apos;cyborg&apos;, but it appears NASA doesn&apos;t like that word anymore.&quot;&gt;NASA&lt;/a&gt; is interested, too. In fact, NASA&apos;s Cyborg Program was based on the research of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.superconductor.com/clynes.htm&quot; title=&quot;An extraordinary man, a great composer and engineer&quot;&gt;Manfred Clynes&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rfmh.org/nki/welcome/TheMan/&quot; title=&quot;best known for his pioneering work with psychopharmacologic drugs.&quot;&gt;Nathan Kline&lt;/a&gt;. More inside...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:18:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chason</dc:creator>		<category>cyborg</category>		<category>cyborgs</category>
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		<title>By: chason</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435014</link>	
		<description>I am personally vested in this issue because my work for my photography degree is centered on cyborgs now. One of the things that interests me the most is our reliance on technology, and how we interface our humanity with the machines that surround us.

I&apos;m sure I&apos;m not the only one who had dreams of cybernetic organs as a child, and I didn&apos;t even read that much science fiction. I just discovered this field of study, and even though it&apos;s kind of old hat in the upper academic world, I still found it fascinating myself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:21:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CrazyJub</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435016</link>	
		<description>Off topic comment coming...nice format on the links! Kudos</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:23:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: techgnollogic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435024</link>	
		<description>yeah no kidding</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:53:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: imh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435025</link>	
		<description>Have you been reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://missingmatter.net/article.pl?sid=03/01/28/1615229&amp;mode=thread&quot;&gt;missing matter&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:53:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chason</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435026</link>	
		<description>Actually, yeah. Darn, I forgot to give credit to them for that first link. But I&apos;ve been reading up on cyborg theory for about the last month now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: techgnollogic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435028</link>	
		<description>Oh, the link text feature is new to Metafilter, and not just this post. Score.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:58:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Postroad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435072</link>	
		<description>The humanaities atrract fewer and fewer students yearly, and the job market in those areas suck, and flailing about, the humanists nowtry to glom onto science to give them life support....and somewhere between science and the humanities we have a big open hole that is called Evolutionary psychology, a fun-filled niche that allows for much speculative stuff and little or no hard science analyisis.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:27:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435081</link>	
		<description>I saw &quot;Soul of a New Machine&quot; and thought we were talking about Fear Factory.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:37:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andrew cooke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435094</link>	
		<description>brave prof warwick?!  try searching &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ntk.net/&quot;&gt;ntk&lt;/a&gt; for &quot;warwick&quot; and you&apos;ll find a slightly different opinion...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435150</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I saw &quot;Soul of a New Machine&quot; and thought we were talking about Fear Factory.&lt;/i&gt;

I had no idea Tracy Kidder was ever in Fear Factory.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:58:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435203</link>	
		<description>I was thinking the exact same thing Dark Messiah. Guess that shows where our interests lie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:54:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chason</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435328</link>	
		<description>well, andrew, prof. warwick is lucky i wrote this post and not the people from NTK. :)

Their criticism of him seems to be... overzealous at best. Of course, I&apos;ve never really had a problem with publicity hounds, as prof. warwick seems to be. A perfectly valid way for getting your viewpoint to the world.

And Postroad,  I have my doubts that too many people get advanced degrees in the humanities so that they can make lots of money. And I don&apos;t really see what the rest of your post has to do with mine, beyond an unspecific backhand towards social sciences.

Not to be too snarky, but I don&apos;t suppose anyone would mind posting ontopic? I&apos;m still feeling this subject out as I work on my photos, and was really hoping that someone here might have some good insight, pro and con.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:21:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kliuless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#435683</link>	
		<description>i&apos;m a sometimes poster at missing matter :) 

one of the best writers on postmodern literature and &quot;cybernetic fiction&quot; (the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darkhorse.com/news/features/pg_feview/sku_12117/item_12117c/X_0/index.html&quot;&gt;man-machine interface&lt;/a&gt;!) i&apos;ve come across is &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20000819163215/http://members.global2000.net/~dporush/HTML+FIles/c.v.+1996.html#PUBS&quot;&gt;david &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=david+porush&quot;&gt;porush&lt;/a&gt;! (tied with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techgnosis.com/corpus.html&quot;&gt;erik davis&lt;/a&gt;, with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.manovich.net/&quot;&gt;lev manovich&lt;/a&gt; running a close second :) i don&apos;t have any insights per se, but check out his essays on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pum.umontreal.ca/revues/surfaces/vol4/porush.html&quot;&gt;the rise of cyborg culture&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cni.org/pub/LITA/Think/Porush.html&quot;&gt;the architecture of cyborg utopia&lt;/a&gt;, and per pink floyd, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/co/1x137/enigma.html&quot;&gt;the division bell&lt;/a&gt; :)

btw alamut has some nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alamut.com/notebooks/v/vampires.html&quot;&gt;notes on vampires&lt;/a&gt;! (oh and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol2is4/horror.html&quot;&gt;the horror of everyday life&lt;/a&gt; :) also i just thought of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amasci.com/hoax.html&quot;&gt;con&lt;/a&gt;! -- see &quot;build a borg&quot; (cyranoids :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:21:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drezdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23524/My-Father-the-Cyborg#436534</link>	
		<description>I saw &quot;Soul of a New Machine&quot; and thought Delta 72&apos;s then i thought Tracey Kidder, then I thought Fear Factory. Then I thought about Ice Cream- because it tastes good.

Then I thought abut how I really want a cybernetic arm, except all my friends blanch at this suggestion, but willingly incorporate cell phones as almost part of their body (while I intend to never own one).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
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