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      <title>Comments on: It's Justice Time!</title>
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	  	  <pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:08:31 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>It&apos;s Justice Time!</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time</link>	
    <description>Know what time it is, Kidz? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usdoj.gov/kidspage/index.html&quot; title=&quot;DOJ Kids and Youth&quot;&gt;It&apos;s U.S. Department of Justice Time!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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On today&apos;s show, we&apos;ll learn why &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cybercrime.gov/rules/reckless.htm&quot; title=&quot;You Can Get in Real Trouble for Hacking&quot;&gt;Hacking is REAL BAD,&lt;/a&gt; and give you a chance to find out if you are a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cybercrime.gov/rules/cybercitizen.htm&quot; title=&quot;Are You A Good Cybercitizen?&quot;&gt;good cybercitizen&lt;/a&gt;. Next, we&apos;ll meet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbi.gov/kids/dogs/narcot/axel/axel.htm&quot; title=&quot;FBI Working Dogs - Narcotics Detection Dogs&quot;&gt;Axel, the talking drug dog,&lt;/a&gt; and his friends &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbi.gov/kids/dogs/chem.htm&quot; title=&quot;FBI Working Dogs - Chemical Explosives Dogs&quot;&gt;the Bomb Dog Bunch!&lt;/a&gt; Then, we&apos;ll check in on the ATF, for some  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atf.gov/kids/faq.htm#faq1&quot; title=&quot;ATF Kid&apos;s Page&quot;&gt;cool science fair ideas&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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And finally, just for you kids with crooks or international terrorists for parents, here&apos;s a nifty &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/publications/infores/fedcrt.pdf&quot; title=&quot;I&apos;m Going to Federal Court&quot;&gt;PDF coloring book&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/publications/infores/pdftxt/bjver.pdf&quot; title=&quot;Learning All About Court With B.J.&quot;&gt;Native American version&lt;/a&gt; also available). </description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:51:58 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>eatitlive</dc:creator>
	
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  	<title>By: soyjoy</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443373</link>	
    <description>That statue of justice on the front page looks awwwwfully risque to me. I&apos;m gettin&apos; hot just lookin&apos; at her.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:08:31 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: VulcanMike</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443384</link>	
    <description>sadly, i echo soyjoy&apos;s sentiment.  well, the first part.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:15:31 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: haqspan</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443406</link>	
    <description>The link about the kids getting in trouble seems perfectly reasonable. Anyone dumb enough to reboot the phone company&apos;s servers, without knowing what that might do, deserves to have the Secret Service come pay them a visit. (According to the link, it made communication difficult for the area air traffic controlers.)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:33:02 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: solistrato</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443424</link>	
    <description>&lt;i&gt;Some kids think they can&apos;t get into trouble for hacking computer systems and that hacking big networks like the phone company, the military, or NASA is harmless fun.&lt;/i&gt;

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A NICE GAME OF CHESS?

No.  Run &quot;Global Thermonuclear War&quot;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:48:13 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: eatitlive</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443499</link>	
    <description>&lt;i&gt;The link about the kids getting in trouble seems perfectly reasonable.&lt;/i&gt;

And I suppose it is reasonable to warn kids of the legal consequences of hacking. But I question the effectiveness. The anti-hacking link, in particular, is very reminiscent of the &quot;Just Say No&quot; campaign from my own youth. In my experience, these sort of federal education programs, intended for a K-5 audience (5- to 12-year-olds), create as much confusion and doubt as they do good citizenship practices. 

Aren&apos;t they painting a picture of a world where the consequences of hacking are nothing but scary and disastrous? How will children react when they discover that&apos;s not quite true?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:51:29 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: hattifattener</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443520</link>	
    <description>Actually, I thought that the anti-hacking page was surprisingly well-balanced. It wasn&apos;t saying &quot;don&apos;t hack&quot; so much as it was saying &quot;don&apos;t break stuff&quot;. Which is actually the ethos of most skilled hackers anyway. 

As kids grow up, after age 6 or 7 or so, they&apos;ll discover that everybody has the power to wreak havoc. Anybody can throw a rock through a window, deploy a rootkit, or (a favorite of hoodlums in the rural neighborhood of my youth) throw chains across the power substation&apos;s busbars. The trick to having a workable society is raising people who realize that although they &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do these things, they don&apos;t &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to. And not just because they think they&apos;ll get caught, but because they understand the effects of their actions.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:16:27 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Ogre Lawless</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443529</link>	
    <description>&quot;An Activity Book For Children Going To Federal Or Tribal Court&quot; is just plain spooky.  Especially when run side-by-side with the &quot;normal&quot; one.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: ollybee</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443616</link>	
    <description>Drugs dogs.. Are the dogs not hooked on the drugs they sniff out? thats what makes them want to find them.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: charlesv</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443643</link>	
    <description>Say, Axel, I can get you a nice job in a Korean restaurant....</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:51:30 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: rhyax</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#443760</link>	
    <description>Holy crap, that &quot;good cybercitizen&quot; page is horrible, I think that&apos;s a powerpoint graphic, comic sans... star background. At least they are saving tax dollars.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:13:33 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: rough ashlar</title>
  	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23847/Its-Justice-Time#444465</link>	
    <description>I liked how justice is no longer blind.

Wow, isn&apos;t the internet a great way to educate ppl how things REALLY are?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:57:23 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>rough ashlar</dc:creator>
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