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	<title>Comments on: Old folk are dancin&apos;! 8d</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:40:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Old folk are dancin&apos;! 8d</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/testimony/2003/20030227/default.htm"&gt;Demography is destiny&lt;/a&gt; Alan Greespan in Senate testimony discusses the implications of an aging population.  While the US is getting older, other countries are &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB104629702862877943,00.html&quot;&gt;relatively young&lt;/a&gt;. Can &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB1046299863407020423,00.html&quot;&gt;immigration&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB1027630773820454520,00.html&quot;&gt;technology&lt;/a&gt; provide, as Greenspan says, a &quot;potent antidote for slowing growth in the working-age population,&quot; or are such &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB1046277891825387263,00.html&quot;&gt;projections&lt;/a&gt; academic?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:08:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kliuless</dc:creator>		<category>greenspan</category>		<category>alangreenspan</category>		<category>populationaging</category>		<category>demographics</category>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d#445667</link>	
		<description>kliuless - I don&apos;t know if immigration and technology can completely redress this --- but I think that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreignadoptions.com/&quot;&gt;Adoption can close the gap&lt;/a&gt;. Sure there are many U.S. kids languishing bereft of parents. So what?  New, perfect babies command a premium.</description>
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		<title>By: rudyfink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d#445688</link>	
		<description>Italy really has this problem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:43:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: meep</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d#445743</link>	
		<description>Troutfishing: Um, do you mean adoption of foreign babies as a form of immigration?  Because  kids don&apos;t disappear just because they&apos;ve not been adopted.

The point is that in all &quot;developed&quot; nations (except the U.S.) the birth rate is below the replacement rate, meaning without immigration from places which still experience growth the population will decrease in the future =and= demographically shift older.  Simply put, somebody has to have babies.

In any case, I find it interesting that birth rates have gotten so low in some countries -- down to 1.1 kids per woman in some countries -- without any real attempts to coerce women into not having kids.  Simply providing economic opportunities for women, as well as reliable birth control and abortion for when it&apos;s not reliable, was enough to reduce birth rates; as well, kids are an economic sink in developed nations, so people have little incentive to have very many of them if they want to be financially well-off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:33:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveInMaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d#445779</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Simply put, somebody has to have babies.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vhemt.org/&quot;&gt;Not everybody&lt;/a&gt; agrees with that sentiment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:34:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john m</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/23933/Old-folk-are-dancin-8d#445856</link>	
		<description>There is a paper &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itt.edu/tac/2002/speaker_presentation.asp&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; called &apos;THE GLOBAL AGE HAS ARRIVED&apos;, by  Neil H. Snyder (a prof at Univ of Virginia) which focuses on population and demographic trends and what it means for certain industries and countries. Chock full of data. I ran across it a while back and the ideas involved keep coming back to me...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:15:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john m</dc:creator>
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