With Friends Like This....

March 3, 2003 3:37 PM

With Friends Like This....Hate tv like I do? Do you rail at the idea of "must see tv"? OK....NYTimes link. But it is not NewsFilter! - more inside
posted by lampshade (20 comments total)

I posted this because after actually buying a real newspaper today, I read an article that described this site. Here is the actual link.

http://digitalart.artsci.unr.edu/Art%20Web/Digital%20Media/DELAPPE/DeLappe%20Main%20Page/DeLappe%20Online%20MAIN.html

Beat the hell out of you least favorite character. Not Friday flash, but
posted by lampshade at 3:38 PM on March 3, 2003

I'm certain its a repeat, but I can't find it....
posted by Orange Goblin at 4:12 PM on March 3, 2003

Discussed previously here.

In 1997 Desktop Theater, an experimental online group, staged a reading of "Waiting for Godot" within an Internet chat room... The performance was derailed when a muscleman who claimed to be Godot arrived and declared the wait to be over.

The only way to be satisfied with this sort of project is to make the interference of anonymous hecklers "the point", which is about as uncompelling as commentary about the internet gets.
posted by eddydamascene at 4:16 PM on March 3, 2003

I want a game where I can slaughter the casts of the Real World, past and present. For now I'm content to slander them all I want at PlanetSocks without the need for violence (yet).

(Out of curiousity, I've never understood how one could "hate tv", a television basically just being furniture that transmits imagery of different forms of light entertainment, and occasionally great information via Discovery, History Channel, and even MTV, if one really wants a better range of knowledge about the world around him, and yes, sometimes that involves seeing listening what "the kids" are listening to, while suffering the presence of massive tool™, Carson Daly. As a form of media, is television really inherently more insufferable than, say, radio, which is full of loud advertising and boy bands? I don't know, the Kill Your Television stickers always made me roll my eyes)
posted by dhoyt at 4:23 PM on March 3, 2003

Discussed previously here.

dag nabbit!
posted by lampshade at 4:31 PM on March 3, 2003

Speaking of hating TV, my reticence toward the tube is not so much towards the technology, but the insipid nature of the networks. this would include everything from the pinhead national networks to the local shit broadcasts who feel that "Garage Door Openers That KILL" is something that I really need to know about.

Watch a day of TV. Take notes. The next day, review your notes and ask yourself how much of what you viewed the day previous was really relevant to your life. Short of just general entertainment (which is certainly valid), most of it is bullshit.

I have lived without a TV for a number of years now. When I visit a person with a TV, certainly I get totally sucked in. I actually do miss it quite alot. However, in large part, I am glad that I booted the tube, despite how much I miss it!

Oddly enough..........
This was a post about a website in a newspaper, and now we are on the topic of TVs

Go figure. Heh
posted by lampshade at 4:53 PM on March 3, 2003

I love TV -- some of it. "Friends", however, is one of the guiltiest parties to the Dumbing Down of America and the Downfall of Society. It's true.
posted by davidmsc at 5:04 PM on March 3, 2003

Yeah, but Ross would know that the comma is placed inside the quotation marks.

"Friends," however, is one...

hee hee... just funnin' ya
posted by thatweirdguy2 at 5:10 PM on March 3, 2003

well, before this thread is deleted......just for the heck ot it.

TV and the Death Of Culture

Living without a TV provides interesting social scenarios.

And an An Ongoing, Erratic Diary.


More fun for everyone
posted by lampshade at 5:36 PM on March 3, 2003

lampshade, you sound like one of my good friends. he doesn't own a television, preferring to spend his time making music or reading. However when when faced with 250+ channels, a 100+ hour TiVo, a DVD collection and the ability to watch HDTV, he shows an enthusiasm for television which is nearly unrivaled.

Seriously, your decision to deprive yourself of television is not ennobling, it simply means that you don't own a television.
posted by mosch at 6:12 PM on March 3, 2003

it's kind of stretching it to say that television and stations like discovery, history channel, etc. are "educational." maybe if you want your education to revolve around hitler and carnivorous animals.
posted by dagnyscott at 6:28 PM on March 3, 2003

dagnyscott --

I thought I was the only one. At my house, we constantly refer to the History Channel as the "Hitler Channel" and The Learning Channel as "The Surgery Channel"
posted by 4easypayments at 6:39 PM on March 3, 2003

Seriously, your decision to deprive yourself of television is not ennobling, it simply means that you don't own a television.

msoch,
Don't get me wrong. I love TV. Oh Jesus high lordy. I love the tube! I in no way feel noble about this quest.


I will post something tomorrow shouldm this thread be still here. My wrist is hurting me something awful now. (broken wrist FWIW)

cheers
posted by lampshade at 7:12 PM on March 3, 2003

That "TV and the Death of Culture" link is amazing!

The TV is a technological wonder that could (and will one day) be a marvelous instrument for the glory of God

I can't wait until television is All Jesus All The Time. Then I wouldn't have to watch those blasphemous Discovery Channel shows that suggest that Earth is more than 6,000 years old! Instead of staring longingly at Jennifer Garner, I'll be consumed with re-creations of actual Leper Touching! I feel like it's Christmas Eve!
posted by Mayor Curley at 7:31 PM on March 3, 2003

lampshade, do what I did and get a Tivo. I record the good stuff and skip past all the commercials, boring parts, bad guests, etc. I really dont like paying $40 a month just to record eight or nine shows (I do almost no channel surfing), but until video on demand + tivo comes out this will have to do.

Think of it as a firewall against the networks.
posted by skallas at 7:52 PM on March 3, 2003

>I can't wait until television is All Jesus All The Time.

That's another thing I really dislike about paying for all these useless channels - subsidizing the religious non-think/hate speech.

So if I want to watch the daily show I have to get cable/satellite. If I get cable then I'm giving x amount of money to the 700 club, Fox News, etc. That's just wrong.
posted by skallas at 7:55 PM on March 3, 2003

skellas: at least with TiVo I get the satisfaction of giving every program on the religious stations three thumbs down, and giving some thumbs up to the programs that do not preach.
posted by mosch at 9:23 PM on March 3, 2003

Isn't "hating TV" and doing this sort of thing very similar to being obsessed with watching those same shows?

Either way you are letting the very same element become a very strong motivation on your behaviour.
posted by clevershark at 9:35 PM on March 3, 2003

Article: discussion of Quake as artistic medium.

FPP: Do you rail at the idea of "must see tv"?

heh.
posted by quin at 10:36 PM on March 3, 2003

Isn't "hating TV" and doing this sort of thing very similar to being obsessed with watching those same shows?


You are right. It is actually a hatred of the fact that I love TV that is probably the core here. The "TV and the death of culture" article hits the nail on the head - we are amusing ourselves to death. And if that is the case, I'm dying baby, I'm dying.

heh heh heh
posted by lampshade at 6:21 AM on March 4, 2003