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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 24330</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:51:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 24330</title>
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		<description>&quot;There is making of &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miv09/miv0913.JPG&quot;&gt;silver sex&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.  
Taking  bodypainting/messy obsessions to the very &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miva01/miva0113.JPG&quot;&gt;edge&lt;/a&gt;,  Manon Production  from Japan sells a &lt;a href=&quot;http://manon.sfcgi.com/engmivmain.htm&quot;&gt;wide selection&lt;/a&gt; of  fetish &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/mivs01/mivs01mov02.mpg&quot;&gt;videos&lt;/a&gt; (sample mpeg 1.69MB).
All feature illustrative pictures and detailed, eerie Engrish descriptions (&lt;i&gt;&quot;we feel admirable and poor at her black smile&quot;&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Midori&apos;s body is changing colourfull&quot;&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;&quot;a little golden powder enters into her eyes&quot;&lt;/i&gt;). Results can also evoke a &lt;a href=&quot;http://manon.sfcgi.com/miv02/miv0202.JPG&quot;&gt;sculpture&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/mivs02/mivs0235b.JPG&quot;&gt;theater&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miv06/miv0616.JPG&quot;&gt;abstract art&lt;/a&gt;. Considering the  evident misogyny of the whole effort, is it all the more unsettling because the images are sometimes &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miv07/miv0728.JPG&quot;&gt;beautiful &lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/mivs01/mivs0122b.JPG&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miv09/miv0909.JPG&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;)? Is it an attempt to somehow bring &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sorayama.net/Robot/robot.html&quot;&gt;Sorayama&apos;s creatures&lt;/a&gt;  to  life? Could the models be &lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/mivp01/mivp0110.JPG&quot;&gt;actually &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miva01/miva0110.JPG&quot;&gt;enjoying &lt;/a&gt;it?

&lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwiz4610/manon/miva01/miva0122.JPG&quot;&gt; NOT&lt;/a&gt; SAFE FOR WORK&lt;small&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:45:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>111</dc:creator>		<category>Japan</category>		<category>Japanese</category>		<category>porn</category>		<category>pornography</category>		<category>paint</category>		<category>fetish</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: ajbattrick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455675</link>	
		<description>That is just strange, extreme. The paint inside their mouths I fear does not do any of them any good at all. In the eyes - I hope it is non-toxic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 02:51:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cyrano</title>
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		<description>Carpet bombing = weird porn.  

See also: Germany</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 03:24:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455691</link>	
		<description>*Paging &lt;a href=&quot;http://00heaven.org/books/goldfinger.htm&quot;&gt;Goldfinger&lt;/a&gt;*

They probably use non-toxic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fasart.com/artposterpaint.htm&quot;&gt;paint&lt;/a&gt;, eh.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midgetorgies.com/group_sex_with_midgets/&quot;&gt;Porn &lt;/a&gt;is wierd (NSFW), regardless of whether or not the country of origin has suffered carpet bombing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:21:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Busithoth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455717</link>	
		<description>Whoa.  Good thing I work on Sundays, I didn&apos;t see the NSFW until after the video played.  Gold dust in mouth = ech.  I don&apos;t care how much they may profess it causes no medical side-effects, it just don&apos;t seem like the wisest thing to ingest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:34:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dydecker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455719</link>	
		<description>Some observations about Japanese porn:

1) The genitalia is all legal Japanese pornography is masked, which leads to the fetishization of &quot;covering up&quot; rather than the &quot;revealing&quot; you find in American porn.  Some guys even get off on the masking.  Instead of the close-up spreading stuff common in Western porn, you get costume play, and game shows, and weird gimmicks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sod.co.jp/cinema/index.html&quot;&gt;nude nursery homes&lt;/a&gt; or ninety minute videos of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lezlovevideo.com/product_details/default.asp?cat=jav&amp;scat=1170&amp;mscssid=92BC4A28C64D41C7965B0129E12992F0&amp;productID=s0304&quot;&gt;girls just kissing&lt;/a&gt; (the female director is interviewed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tekoki.com/interviews/director-chie-sugawara.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) 
2) Japan has a taboo about dirtiness, hence the volume of porn that violates it: scatology, urophilia, public bath sex, bukkake, etc.  Add, er, paint.
3) Japan produces more pornography than in the West, hence the greater variety.  No religious, feminist, or public interest groups lobby against it.  Hundreds of tapes are released each week.
4) Depictions of sadomasochism, rape, torture, schoolgirls bursting into tears etc are legal all neatly arranged in genres at your local video shop.  Humiliating females has been coded into its own genre.
5) I think these people probably went to art school.  I detect a &quot;statement&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:42:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fupped Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455733</link>	
		<description>Works for me...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:59:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455748</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Porn is wierd (NSFW),&lt;/i&gt;

Not if you&apos;re a midget. And I suppose they are as entitled to their aarousal as anyone.

&lt;i&gt;Gold dust in mouth = ech.&lt;/i&gt;

What you never had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epinions.com/fddk-Spirits-By_Name-All-Goldschlager_Cinnamon_Schnapps_Liqueur&quot;&gt;this stuff&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:40:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455781</link>	
		<description>Cyrano: interesting observation.  Wonder what new great fucked up stuff will be coming out of Afghanistan in the next few years?

asok: Hey, it&apos;s like having sex with an eight-year-old that&apos;s fully developed!  You rule.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:20:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BirdD0g</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455876</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;You have not lived until you have witnessed the gory of hardcore midget porn!!&lt;/i&gt;

Huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:29:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zpousman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#455941</link>	
		<description>Thanks dvdecker, for making an interesting thread even interestinger.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:21:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamgreenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#456099</link>	
		<description>Sigh. Where&apos;s that thread on my feelings re: Japan? Reload it and save me the trouble of getting ramped up about this...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:51:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slimemonster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#456143</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s really horrible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:15:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#456208</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/24351#456090&quot;&gt;Irregardless&lt;/a&gt;, sorry pinto.

jonmc, I wasn&apos;t trying to cast any aspersions upon the vertically challenged, it is simply the common conversational use of &apos;sex dwalf&apos; that caused me to link to it.
I hope I haven&apos;t hurt your fellings ; )</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:00:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hama7</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#456213</link>	
		<description>Extremely interesting links and site.  Thanks, 111.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:34:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iax</title>
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		<description>Ok,  you have explained japan,  but what about germany?

Allies in WW2 because of the sex stuff, or is it the other way around?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:15:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24330/#456620</link>	
		<description>How on earth is this misogynistic?  seems more philogynistic to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:07:07 -0800</pubDate>
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