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	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:23:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Graffiti stencils as art</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.banksy.co.uk/"&gt;Graffiti stencils as art&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:56:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Orange Goblin</dc:creator>		<category>graffiti</category>		<category>stencils</category>		<category>Banksy</category>		<category>art</category>
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		<title>By: arto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#460990</link>	
		<description>And the award for most consecutive splash pages goes to...

Seriously, I&apos;ve seen this guy&apos;s work before, in magazines like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.straightnochaser.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Straight, No Chaser&lt;/a&gt;.  Pretty impressive stuff, and the stencil thing gives him a whole different feel than the usual letterform-based hip hop graff style.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:23:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: specialk420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#460992</link>	
		<description>great link! thank you.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stencilrevolution.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.stencilrevolution.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:26:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>specialk420</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: boogah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461026</link>	
		<description>i&apos;ve gotta say that he&apos;s got some interesting views on life.  my favorite quote has to be:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;the time of getting fame for your name on its own is over. artwork that is only about wanting to be famous will never make you famous. any fame is a bi-product of making something that means something. you don&apos;t go to a restaurant and order a meal because you want to have a shit.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pinto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461058</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The key to good graffitti is economy. A simple splash of paint in the right place at the right time is all it takes. 

An old lady with a pencil can bring down a government by drawing an X on a ballot paper. A single letter H when painted on the floor is powerful enough to attract helicopters.  A few licks of white pain transformed the donkey into the zebra.  And scribbles from a spraycan can concert a slum into an art gallery, but then you would ask yourself &quot;How fucking useful is that exactly?&quot; &lt;/i&gt;


This is some brilliant stuff. (Not solely the words, either.)Purposefully self-aware, pastiche-laden, political, and suitably ironic. But it also manages to be insightful. This is the best explication of artistic justification of graffitti that I&apos;ve ever seen. 

Thanks for the link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:22:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pinto</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pinto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461059</link>	
		<description>:: going now, to make stencils ::</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:23:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hama7</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461070</link>	
		<description>The only thing I dislike more than vandalism is pretentious leftist vandalism. 

In all fairness, the images themselves were not bad, but the message is the same old pretentious political marxist nonsense that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robbieconal.com/artattack_order_paypal.html&quot;&gt;Robbie Conal&lt;/a&gt; has been wringing into self-parody for the last fifteen years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:47:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grabbingsand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461089</link>	
		<description>ah...

so that is what i saw last year in london: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grabbingsand.com/london2002/pages/DCP_0678.htm&quot; title=&quot;chequebook vandalism&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grabbingsand.com/london2002/pages/DCP_0679.htm&quot; title=&quot;mr. pelling&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grabbingsand.com/london2002/pages/DCP_0681.htm&quot; title=&quot;this one is my favorite. &quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:11:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dogwalker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461130</link>	
		<description>I picked up one of Banksy&apos;s books, flipped through it, and saw a photo of a bridge a block from my school that I recognized. Ended up buying it and hunting down some of the images, or just coming across some on my own. 

Honestly, I&apos;ve thought about posting a link to his site, but figured it had been done before I got here. Glad to see it&apos;s well-received. Anyways, check out his books if you&apos;re interested, they&apos;re worth it.

hama: He is an obvious pretentious lefty, but I think most of his best work is not political. My favorite was a huge &quot;&lt;b&gt;X&lt;/b&gt; &lt;small&gt;BURIED TREASURE&lt;/small&gt;&quot; spray painted in red on the beach. On the actual sand. [sorry, can&apos;t find a web image]

also, thanks for the extra link specialk420</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:51:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dogwalker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ig</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461237</link>	
		<description>I highly recommend Tristan Manco&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stencilgraffiti.com/&quot;&gt;Stencil 
Graffiti&lt;/a&gt; book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:29:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461288</link>	
		<description>&apos;last March, the &lt;b&gt;Electoral Commission&lt;/b&gt;, apparently unaware of the irony of aping one of the UK&apos;s foremost (illegal) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.observer.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,722217,00.html&quot;&gt;graffiti artists&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;b&gt; launched a poster campaign&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;which borrowed his authoritative, powerful style &lt;/b&gt;to encourage young people to vote. And, naturally, he has been approached by multinationals keen to harness his powerful visuals into their marketing plans. &apos;I&apos;ve got a great list of people I&apos;ve turned down,&apos; he grins. &apos;Nike, Coke and Microsoft. Which is probably more impressive than the things I have done.&apos; Fans - who include Massive Attack, Coldplay and Orbital - would disagree&apos;

The one I saw most recently read &apos;This is not a photo opportunity&apos;, by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boroughmarket.org.uk/&quot;&gt;Borough Market&lt;/a&gt;.
hama7, how do you explain defining Banksy (or Robbie Connal), or the work, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marxism&quot;&gt;&apos;Marxist&apos;&lt;/a&gt;? I really am interested.
Do you see any form of &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=parody&quot;&gt;parody &lt;/a&gt;as being Marxist? Or just parodies that target government figures?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:34:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hama7</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24580/Graffiti-stencils-as-art#461299</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you see any form of parody as being Marxist?&lt;/i&gt;

I love the Onion, but it doesn&apos;t advocate anti-capitalist, anti-corporate violent government overthrow or &quot;sophisticated social discourse&quot; through leftist vandalism, which is, uh, Marxist.  The proles wresting power from their bourgeois opressors and all that crap = marxist.

Frankly, the imagery created from the stencils is pretty damned impressive, and as dogwalker mentioned, it&apos;s not all political.  I&apos;d like to see what the stencilmakers could do if they dialed down the &quot;statements&quot; and dailed up the creativity, of which there seems to be plenty.

Also, the vandalism thing isn&apos;t all that great.  It&apos;s illegal (ethically iffy, and necessarily hasty), but heck, think what they could do with a public space without time constraints and permission!  Lots of people would be happy to pay them for their mural work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:23:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hama7</dc:creator>
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