Comments on: 100 Worst Britons

100 Worst Britons

feelinglistless — Sat, 10 May 2003 14:35:14 -0800

100 Worst Britons as voted for by visitors to the Channel 4 website. The 'winner' isn't predictable at all. Omissions?

By: feelinglistless

feelinglistless — Sat, 10 May 2003 14:38:44 -0800

The actual programme (which was on tv tonight) was a wonderfully mean spirited romp and a perfect counterpoint to the self-congratulatory nature of some fame.

By: feelinglistless

feelinglistless — Sat, 10 May 2003 14:41:13 -0800

Although I suspect it may take them a moment or two to post the results ...

By: Celery

Celery — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:00:35 -0800

Why was Tony Blair #1? I thought everyone in Britain thought he was was a bit of a cad, but alright really?

By: Epenthesis

Epenthesis — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:04:10 -0800

Coincidentally, the list includes just about every Briton who has become internationally famous in the last fifteen years. You can see a couple of dozen of them in one hour of BBC America.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:05:14 -0800

35. Harry Potter Ummm, not to nitpick, (but I will anyway) Harry Potter isn't real. Maybe people should've voted for the author of the Harry potter books instead. 100. Atomic Kitten What is an atomic kitten? Where can I get one? Can I put it in a jar?

By: joemeek

joemeek — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:09:45 -0800

I knew it was Blair before looking. A bumpersticker I saw, I VOTED FOR BLAIR AND GOT BUSH.

By: mdn

mdn — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:15:08 -0800

83. Mick Jagger 84. Damien Hurst weird order there. That's the only place I found two in a row I could identify, though. Oh wait, gerry whatsit is the spice girl right? & the queen at 9 &10. Still. Who's this "jordan" who beat maggie thatcher and nearly got the #1 spot?

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:15:48 -0800

JORDAN #2? You fucking Brits are off your rockers.

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:17:38 -0800

Shame about Cliff Richard...

By: feelinglistless

feelinglistless — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:19:34 -0800

Why was Tony Blair #1? I thought everyone in Britain thought he was was a bit of a cad, but alright really? Betrayal mostly. Promises made, promises broken. Labour are still pretty high in the polls, but it's mostly people voting for the party, not the man. Looking towards their local MPs and their work rather than as a government. Atomic Kitten Don't even get me started.

By: DaRiLo

DaRiLo — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:24:17 -0800

Katie Price a.k.a. Jordan I was suprised she was #2 , but not suprised she was on there. An english Pamela Anderson in almost all ways. It seems like for a lot of these people ubiquity seems to be a problem. Too much time in the limelight with a certain lack of talent can turn the public mood.

By: t r a c y

t r a c y — Sat, 10 May 2003 15:25:35 -0800

Coincidentally, the list includes just about every Briton who has become internationally famous in the last fifteen years. sounds like tall poppy syndrome. let them rise up and when you think they've gotten too famous, chop 'em back down.

By: MrBaliHai

MrBaliHai — Sat, 10 May 2003 16:09:10 -0800

Why is Nigella Lawson on this list and not Charles Saatchi? And Tom Jones? This is nonsense.

By: Flitcraft

Flitcraft — Sat, 10 May 2003 16:51:56 -0800

Wot no Jeffrey Archer?

By: mkultra

mkultra — Sat, 10 May 2003 16:57:48 -0800

I actually feel dumber for having read that.

By: feelinglistless

feelinglistless — Sat, 10 May 2003 17:02:00 -0800

The rules dictate that the winner must be British and alive and not currently in prison or pending trial. So, with Jeffrey Archer out of the running, the field's wide open.

By: Zonker

Zonker — Sat, 10 May 2003 17:06:05 -0800

I think t r a c y's nailed it; how else could David Beckham make this list? Sure he's not too bright and has awful taste in haircuts, but that hardly qualifies him as one of the worst people in the country.

By: donovan

donovan — Sat, 10 May 2003 17:12:12 -0800

84. Damien Hurst Why is Nigella Lawson on this list and not Charles Saatchi? I can understand why Damien Hirst is a whipping boy, but couldn't they spell his name right? After having spent this afternoon at the newly opened Saatchi Gallery, I think the vitriol is misspent. The collection is stunning, (some) of Hirst's work is great, and Saatchi has created a gallery that is unlike any other I've been to (in a good way).

By: Pretty_Generic

Pretty_Generic — Sat, 10 May 2003 17:26:12 -0800

Blair has lied continuously since he came to power. When he was first elected, the Conservatives had a "Demon Eyes" advertising campaign, warning - watch out, this guy is slippery, the Labour party hasn't changed, he'll take your money and be an old socialist with it. The advert failed miserably, but the hilarious irony is that Blair did turn out to be slippery - but in the opposite way. He is twice the Conservative that Major was. He's more Thatcherite than Thatcher was. If the Labour party promises a policy I agree with, it's a safe bet they'll actually do the opposite. Blair is charming and intelligent and completely immoral, and I suspect slightly mental.

By: ciderwoman

ciderwoman — Sat, 10 May 2003 18:18:26 -0800

The show was, much to my surprise, very watchable. My only real complaint was that Liz Hurley only polled in the mid seventies, I would have had that talent vacuum in the top ten any day. For the most part it I thought it showed that the British like a celebrity as long as that person remembers their worth more than the tall poppy syndrome, its when celebs rate themselves as more important than we know they are that they get dumped on. And Heat magazine (National enquirer meets Hello for those outside UK) rated it their worst show of the week, which means it must be doing something right. Not sure what Judith Chalmers has done to annoy everyone though, and why no Meg Matthews? I'd also like to add Ronan Keating and Ruby wax as token Brits who should have been there.

By: jess

jess — Sat, 10 May 2003 18:59:41 -0800

Jade Goody is number four? I know I'm on the periphery of British pop culture here in Canada, but with Big Brother having finished almost a year ago I can't believe the hate still lives on quite so emphatically. I never saw an episode of BB UK (just read the frothing tabloids at the time), so I can't speak as to whether Jade deserves the ranking or not, but.. way to hold a grudge, UK!

By: Joeforking

Joeforking — Sat, 10 May 2003 19:05:25 -0800

Most of these people are mere "celebs", in 5 years time they will be utterly forgotten. It's a bit like "Which is worst - Hitler, or that wasp flying around your nose?" Most are mere passing irritants, not truly "bad". Anyway, there is one glaring omission - me. I'm gutted.

By: Bag Man

Bag Man — Sat, 10 May 2003 19:10:00 -0800

What about Jack Straw, or did I miss him?

By: sgt.serenity

sgt.serenity — Sat, 10 May 2003 19:34:15 -0800

well , looks like harold shipman can rest easy tonight.

By: Pretty_Generic

Pretty_Generic — Sat, 10 May 2003 21:40:38 -0800

sgt - hahahahaha. hahaha.

By: Pretty_Generic

Pretty_Generic — Sat, 10 May 2003 21:43:00 -0800

oh, he was excluded. ignore me.

By: johnny7

johnny7 — Sun, 11 May 2003 00:53:05 -0800

What about that pinstriped Antique Roadshow fella??

By: SpaceCadet

SpaceCadet — Sun, 11 May 2003 02:58:25 -0800

It's a bit like "Which is worst - Hitler, or that wasp flying around your nose?" So true.

By: SpaceCadet

SpaceCadet — Sun, 11 May 2003 03:00:37 -0800

Edwina Currie at no.26 - that's quite flattering for her.

By: hama7

hama7 — Sun, 11 May 2003 03:20:55 -0800

Is Madonna a 'Briton' yet? If so, slap her on there and good riddance. Also, it is odd that several of the Frankensteins that Saatchi has created appear on the list, but not the doctor himself.

By: sgt.serenity

sgt.serenity — Sun, 11 May 2003 05:18:39 -0800

What about that pinstriped Antique Roadshow fella?? harold shipman is presenting the antiques roadshow now ? no wonder i dont pay my tv licence.

By: PenDevil

PenDevil — Sun, 11 May 2003 05:53:24 -0800

At least Jamie Oliver was there. I can't stand the mockney bastard.

By: deaddodo

deaddodo — Sun, 11 May 2003 07:21:46 -0800

I get the feeling that the poll was done about 6 months ago, judging from the lineup (H from Steps, Darren Day, Rik Waller, Jade etc.) - it says "earlier this year". Also the problem with the Channel 4 100 Worst/Greatest polls is that you're given a list of 100 to vote from (you can write in others, but that involves thought and effort on the voder's part). The public essentially just rank them.

By: Dreama

Dreama — Sun, 11 May 2003 09:49:51 -0800

This made my eyes cross. I can't imagine trying to be a public figure in Britain with a media so willing to help the public tear apart the celebs in such rude fashion. It's an odd kind of backlash it's as if there's a collective statement something like: We'll make you marvelously famous by voting for you, flocking to your films, reading your words, watching your programmes, buying your cds and celebrating your sport triumphs, and then we'll skewer you with an enthusiasm we can't even muster for depraved criminals. We'll make fun of your clothes, your hair, your choice of lovers, the way you spend your leisure time, the way you spend your working time, your opinions and your beliefs. We'll villify your attempts at maintaining your privacy and ridicule your attempts to reach out to your fans. In short, we'll make you an idol and then throw stones at you. We'll tell you that you're beloved, then call you a fool for acting as though it were true. And when you need a break, avoid the spotlight for a time and then decide to do something new, we'll laugh at you more and make fun of you for being old news, call you a has been, and brand all your new work as an attempt to cash in on former glory. It's a no-win situation, you may as well just be a girl in a shop or a bike salesman or a barrister or something, because there's no avoiding the fact that we made you and as soon as we're done making you -- in fact, simultaneous to the creation of your public persona we will begin to denude you of all of your humanity. Why? Because we can.

By: LexRockhard

LexRockhard — Sun, 11 May 2003 11:45:38 -0800

They should rename this "The 100 Who's Who of England." Yeah, this list could do just as well on E! Entertainment Television. Regardless, I'd still feel bad if I were on that list. Poor Charlotte Church! All she's doing is singing her heart out!

By: mitchel

mitchel — Sun, 11 May 2003 12:47:08 -0800

i hope not including phil collins was intended as the worst insult of all, too horrible to even be mentioned. and after coming across mick hucknall, i had to wonder, where's nathan barley?

By: bonehead

bonehead — Sun, 11 May 2003 14:02:36 -0800

I'm blown away that brittons hate Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen (42) twice as much as say, Fergie (73), Liz Hurley (74) or Delia Smith (78). Sure he's a poof, but he's the most entertaining thing about Trading Rooms.

By: Summer

Summer — Mon, 12 May 2003 03:35:51 -0800

Dreama - my heart bleeds. You want to be in the public eye? Get used to being judged.

By: zygoticmynci

zygoticmynci — Mon, 12 May 2003 05:46:22 -0800

I was amazed that the PM came higher than Thatcher. I'm not a fan of Blair by any means, but his crime has essentially been failing to do what people expected him to. Hardly comparable with the destruction Thatcher wreaked, but I suppose people have short memories. Thatcher has much more direct responsibility for the state of the country today than Blair. Pleased to see the Queen came high, though. It's about time criticsm was directed at her instead of her various inept relatives. The other thing that struck me was how tabloid-centric the list was. The vast, vast majority of the people on the list were those who have been ripped apart by the Sun at one time or another, and half of the (admittedly very entertaining) programme seemed to be constructed from scans of red-topped front pages. Now either that's a worrying reflection of the influence that the tabloid press have on our state of mind, or perhaps more likely an indication of the people likely to vote in this sort of thing...

By: Summer

Summer — Mon, 12 May 2003 05:53:42 -0800

That's what Channel 4 wanted, zygotic. It's fluff (hence the ban on proper criminals).

By: Markb

Markb — Mon, 12 May 2003 08:14:52 -0800

I usually avoid things like this on TV. However this time I found myself watching and enjoying it for what it was (a snide and sneaky schoolyard bitching session - sometimes we all need to laugh at others fortune). Tara Palmer-Talentless' face when she was told she was on the list was worth the entrance fee alone. "What, me? But I spent a few weeks in the jungle, why don't the public love me?".

By: zygoticmynci

zygoticmynci — Mon, 12 May 2003 15:12:50 -0800

That's what Channel 4 wanted, zygotic. It's fluff (hence the ban on proper criminals). Yeah, of course, I'm not saying I was surprised. It could have got very depressing were it to list all the real scumbags rather than B-list celebrities; and after the nauseating business that was the BBC's original Great Britons poll it was much better for it.