Great links, thank you. posted by scottymac at 3:02 PM on May 13, 2003
Yeah. Great post! I hadn't heard of this man! posted by Marquis at 5:42 PM on May 13, 2003
Nor had I; thanks for the link(s). My question is, the first deaf major leaguer? How many have there been? (I'm pretty sure there will never be another one nicknamed 'Dummy.') posted by LeLiLo at 10:20 PM on May 13, 2003
Uhhh, no, Hoy was not responsible for umpire's hand signals. Here's a few notes from Bill Deane, former senior research associate at the Hall of Fame library:
"It doesn’t hold up to scrutiny," said Deane, whose upcoming book on baseball myths includes a chapter on Hoy. "I don’t question that coaches gave him signals. But there’s nothing that goes beyond his opinion that he influenced umpires."
Two things bother Deane. First, he can’t find any newspaper articles or other documents from Hoy’s playing days that specifically give him credit for umpire hand signals–any such references come after the 1940s. Also, records indicate that hand signals came into play about 1905, three years after Hoy retired.
Deane said the most accurate statement anybody can make is this: Minor-league umpire Cy Rigler started the tradition of raising his right hand on called strikes in 1905, about the same time that Rochester native Klem popularized emphatic arm and hand signals in the majors.
Hoy’s claim also conflicts with a 1909 edition of Spalding’s Official Base Ball Guide, which said umpires adopted signals so fans could follow the game. "I would think that if Hoy had anything to do with it, he would have been mentioned here," Deane said.
Baseball is a game rich in myths that need to be put to rest (Ruth's called shot, Buckner causing the Red Sox to lose, Ken Griffey Jr.'s career). Sure Hoy appears to have been a great player, possibly even Hall of Fame worthy. But responsible for hand signals? Not by a longshot. posted by GhostintheMachine at 4:53 AM on May 14, 2003
Ghost: "Ken Griffey Jr.'s career" Thank you for making my day.
(And don't forget to add to your list of myths: "Montreal fans won't support the team.")
Curtis Pride is 95% deaf and played professional baseball from 1993 - 2001. posted by ?! at 5:19 AM on May 14, 2003
Great post. And there was also Luther "Dummy" Taylor, who won 116 games for the Giants a century ago; there's even a novel about him. (Deaf players were called "Dummy" as routinely as Indians were called "Chief" and players with a screw loose were called "Bugs"; them was incorrect times.)
posted by scottymac at 3:02 PM on May 13, 2003