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	<title>Comments on: Next stop?  AmwayBlog.</title>
	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:03:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Next stop?  AmwayBlog.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bloggingnetwork.com/Blogs/Redir/Weblog.aspx"&gt;MAKE MONEY (?) FAST by blogging.&lt;/a&gt; Someone who just doesn&apos;t get it tries to cash in on the blognomenon -- but who&apos;s actually gonna &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloggingnetwork.com/Blogs/&quot;&gt;pay $3/month to read blogs&lt;/a&gt;?  Oh, and you can get paid to blog...but given the blogs they point to as successful examples, I can&apos;t imagine that the&apos;re raking in the cash.

&lt;small&gt;Found via Google TextAd on MeFi.  Really.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 10:58:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vidiot</dc:creator>		<category>blogs</category>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494093</link>	
		<description>Love the design, too...look familiar?

And the fact that the &quot;top blog&quot; at this writing is currently saying that &quot;it&apos;s time to leave Blogging Network.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:03:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vidiot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: crunchburger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494094</link>	
		<description>Blognomenon? Ugh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:06:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crunchburger</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gordian knot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494095</link>	
		<description>Themestream for bloggers. How long before this one crashes?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:06:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gordian knot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ufez Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494096</link>	
		<description>Paying to read blogs is like tipping a drug-dealer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:08:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ufez Jones</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494097</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Blognomenon? Ugh.&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry.  I was attempting -- and failing -- to make fun of the tendency of some to put &quot;blog&quot; in front of anything.  Tongue was in cheek there, even though it didn&apos;t come across as such.  

Now if they&apos;d just eliminate &quot;blogosphere&quot; from the lexicon...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:10:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vidiot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494098</link>	
		<description>Take a look at the first textad on this page -- it&apos;s so meta!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:11:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vidiot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494101</link>	
		<description>(errr, when I wrote that, Bloggingnetwork.com was top of the list.  Now it isn&apos;t.  Go figure.)  And I&apos;ll shut up now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:13:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vidiot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anildash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494108</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re looking for the &lt;em&gt;truly&lt;/em&gt; egregious examples of &quot;MAKE MONEY FAST!&quot; weblog exploitation, you might be interested in:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chat-for-a-living.com/blogging.html&quot;&gt;Chat for a Living&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goldblogger.com/&quot;&gt;GoldBlogger&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogstoriches.com&quot;&gt;Blogs to Riches&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:27:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eatitlive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494109</link>	
		<description>So, with 18,957 posts and a total of $7,368.69 earned, that&apos;s almost $0.40 per post! I&apos;ll be able to pay off my art school loans in no time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:27:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bureaustyle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494122</link>	
		<description>i can imagine someone famous blogging like a supermodel or an actress and other crazy girls paying fee to read about her daily life</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 11:49:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkelley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494133</link>	
		<description>The company who runs this also created &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloghog.com/&quot;&gt;Bloghog&lt;/a&gt;, an online RSS tool. Very cool people who respond quickly to questions.

The Blogging Network has been a round for a while (in internet terms) so I really don&apos;t see what the negative hubbub is about. It&apos;s just another attempt to make money from blogging, without having to put ads up. Another attempt at microcontent payments?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 12:09:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494143</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Paying to read blogs is like tipping a drug-dealer.&lt;/em&gt;

Great one, you owe me a lunch, it&apos;s now all over my screen.
What about pay pal or wish lists on blogs; good or bad, in an etiquette sense? Feel like if the money was meant to be, the money will find me, not me chasing some dough. Wait... that could be my bread for lunch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 12:22:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494145</link>	
		<description>i will maybe pay to read a blog of naked photos of yourself.

but only if you&apos;re either hot or horribly ugly. 

(i like extremes in opposition).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 12:23:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494151</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Another attempt at microcontent payments?&lt;/em&gt;
I blog for free, sure I pay a price for it too: viewing &amp;amp; posting capabilities. Sell a blog to be sold as a money maker, hmmm. Whom are pushing this concept of getting rich.  Them pushing or us dreaming or both whom together create a cycle of dreaming to: buy/sell/make/$$$$?[ really a dream until it happens, but dreams do come true in reality]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 12:39:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494152</link>	
		<description>2. ???
3. PROFIT!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 12:42:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_cola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494161</link>	
		<description>Is there anything in America that can&apos;t be done for fun &amp;amp; profit?!

fishfucker: I&apos;d pay to watch you live up to yer handle ;-)

Ufez: You probably &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; tip your drug dealer...you just don&apos;t know it...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 13:06:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>i_cola</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ignatius J. Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494168</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ufez: You probably do tip your drug dealer...you just don&apos;t know it...&lt;/em&gt;

Lousy autmomatic gratuities.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 13:17:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ignatius J. Reilly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ufez Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494178</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ufez: You probably do tip your drug dealer...you just don&apos;t know it...&lt;/i&gt;

I guess I&apos;ll never know.  He refuses to give itemized receipts.  They really would make doing taxes a lot easier and more accurate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 13:36:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ufez Jones</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: KevinSkomsvold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494200</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What about pay pal or wish lists on blogs; good or bad, in an etiquette sense?&lt;/em&gt;

While one hand is copying and pasting the PayPal logo on my site, the other will be firmly placed on a shotgun with my face hovering over it.

So, no I guess.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 14:20:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494320</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogroots.com/comments.blog/154&quot;&gt;August, 2002 discussion of Blogging Network at Blogroots&lt;/a&gt;. Do I think this will work? Not particularly. Am I interested myself as a reader or as a blogger? Not particularly. Still, I have a hard time understanding the knee-jerk portraiture of this effort as akin to &lt;a title=&quot;In any event, I was labeled a &apos;greedhead&apos; for having an Amazon wishlist on my blog.&quot; href=&quot;http://www.sangfroid.com/writes/hoaxes.html&quot;&gt;wire fraud&lt;/a&gt;. It seems to have been started &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloggingnetwork.com/Blogs/Info/Idea.aspx&quot;&gt;with honest intentions&lt;/a&gt; to create a kind of self-supporting co-op that would encourage bloggers to keep writing, rather than visions of dot-com riches.

In the last year a number of concepts have coalesced, from Google TextAds on MeFi (and potentially on blogs), to BlogAds with revenue directly supporting the publisher/blogger, to &lt;a title=&quot;I&apos;ve even tried it myself; if cancer in my family hadn&apos;t intervened I might actually have made more than $3.83 in Amazon commissions&quot; href=&quot;http://www.taxobserver.com/&quot;&gt;affiliate marketing&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogcritics.com/&quot;&gt;blog consortia&lt;/a&gt; combining different methods. The only ways that really seem to be working are getting paying gigs at advertiser-supported sites, selling books, or using the blog to get work. Other than a mere handful of sites, voluntary PayPal/AHS donations and Amazon wishlist are skimpy recompense. Even Nick Denton&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gizmodo.com/&quot;&gt;experienced&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gawker.com/&quot;&gt;experiments&lt;/a&gt; have, in his words, &quot;the revenue of a pop stand&quot;.

Still, I think that blogs will continue to evolve upward even as traditional media devolves downward to a less hierarchical model. There&apos;s a vast space in between that will, one day, be occupied, and to a largely unrecognized extent already is well-colonized by non-bloggish blogs such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lockergnome.com/&quot;&gt;Chris Pirillo&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 23:33:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mars Saxman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494384</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t understand where people got this silly notion that weblogs &lt;b&gt;should&lt;/b&gt; be a source of income in the first place. Really, what&apos;s wrong with doing something for the hell of it? Why should we even look for revenue streams? 

I predict that when all the effort has been wasted, all the creative money-making ideas have been tried and have failed, we will be right back where we are now: with thousands of quirky, individual, random, frequently-updated pages of posts scrolling from newest to oldest.

I&apos;m afraid that I might be wrong, actually. Part of the fun of the weblog-world is that it is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; commercial. It&apos;s just a place for people to write, play, think, and communicate. It&apos;s a little corner of what the whole web used to be, glitzed up with CSS and pictures and daily updates.

If I&apos;m wrong, and someone does manage to come up with a way to make money by writing in their weblog, then all this ends and we&apos;re back in the mud hole most of the web has already fallen into: miles upon miles of greedy grasping hands and nothing interesting to do anywhere. There&apos;s nothing wrong with the current system, and I wish people would stop trying to break it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2003 09:39:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mars Saxman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: webmutant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/25954/Next-stop-AmwayBlog#494408</link>	
		<description>Geez, what&apos;s next?  Ads on MetaFilter?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2003 11:45:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>webmutant</dc:creator>
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