Comments on: Slicing off the spam

Slicing off the spam

apocalypse miaow — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:48:29 -0800

So... Microsoft sue some spammers. Isn't this an unique case of the nut trying to hit back at the sledgehammer?

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:52:55 -0800

In the future Microsoft will automatically sue you if you use Hotmail to send any of those god damned forwards to more than 10 people.

By: rough ashlar

rough ashlar — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:56:48 -0800

Here is a fine example of Microsoft and SPAM. If Microsoft can't be bothered to secure its test environement...... Return-Path: Received: from switch.somehost.com ([unix socket]) by switch.somehost.com (Cyrus v2.1.11) with LMTP; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 0 4:25:32 -0600 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from HMT3-CLT1.hotmailtest3.com (hmt3-clt1.hotmailtest3.com [64.4.7.32 ]) by switch.somehost.com (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h24APV1C029223 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:25:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Phonecalls@nootede.nl) Received: from mail.nootede.nl ([61.11.79.215]) by HMT3-CLT1.hotmailtest3.com wi th Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4821); Tue, 4 Mar 2003 02:38:55 -0800 Message-ID: <0 00040b000700005f4@mail.nootede.nl> To: From: "Life Savings" Subject: Life Insurance up to 75% Off. Get a FREE Quote Now! 7 983 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 02:33:09 -2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2003 10:39:01.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[44E9F8C0:01C2E2 3A]

By: cinderful

cinderful — Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:45:50 -0800

You'd think they would spend a few billion on making some half-decent spam filtering software, huh? Nope. Not Microsoft.

By: ed\26h

ed\26h — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:24:09 -0800

I don't care.

By: magullo

magullo — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:05:11 -0800

The same day, Microsoft and other Internet service providers fought against a bill in California that would require companies to get permission from computer users before sending them unsolicited e-mail ads. "We don't think all commercial e-mail should be banned,'' said Tim Cranton, Microsoft senior corporate attorney. Microsoft favors self regulation by the industry "to establish standards that can evolve over time".

By: MrBaliHai

MrBaliHai — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:42:26 -0800

In the future Microsoft will automatically sue you if you use Hotmail to send any of those god damned forwards to more than 10 people. Gawd, I *wish*. If only someone would sue my in-laws for forwarding me those stupid prayer-list chain e-mails.

By: boltman

boltman — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:07:25 -0800

AOL has been suing spammers pretty successfully for a while now under a variety of federal and state laws. The biggest problem is that it is so easy to become a spammer, more just pop up to take the place of the ones that the ISPs put out of business through litigation. Personally, I think individual users should start trying to sue spammers under RICO. Seriously. All you need is a pattern or practice of racketeering activity over time. Since most spam is fraudulent in one way or another, it could probably qualify as wire fraud, a qualifying racketeering activity under RICO. Of course, you could only recover damages based on the harm you've suffered from receiving the spam, but hey, you get three times cost of the actual harm. And there's always class actions.

By: FormlessOne

FormlessOne — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:39:10 -0800

Yeah, but it's Microsoft - remember, Microsoft-bashing is fashionable right now.

By: moonbiter

moonbiter — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:46:27 -0800

Microsoft favors self regulation by the industry "to establish standards that can evolve over time". In other words, we want to set the standards.

By: magullo

magullo — Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:12:48 -0800

Microsoft-bashing is fashionable right now Perhaps you would care to explain the banality behind it all?