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	<title>Comments on: Heaven or Hell? It&apos;s Your Choice</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:01:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Heaven or Hell? It&apos;s Your Choice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.heaven-or-hell-its-your-choice.com/index.htm"&gt;Heaven or Hell? It&apos;s Your Choice&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
A new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heaven-or-hell-its-your-choice.com/download-page.htm&quot;&gt;shareware E-Book is out&lt;/a&gt;, penned by the likes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://shopip.com/john_draper_bio.html&quot;&gt;Captain Crunch &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.the-good-stuff.freeserve.co.uk/index.html&quot;&gt;Matthew Smith&lt;/a&gt;, that makes the claims:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Don&apos;t bother planning your pension, the world is about to change and we can prove it, please just take 2 minutes out of your life to read this page, it may change your life.

Artificial intelligence is coming and it may become smarter than any of us. Smart networks using grid technologies could become a threat to us ALL, this is the real Matrix.

From Dot.Net to the X-Box, from M-Theory to the Playstation 3 the future is V.R. / A.I. and Nanotech.

If you ever wanted to know what the system is and what it has done to you, then this ebook is for you.

You left school, you were standardised, you took an exam, you were graded, they made you believe in money, this is the last great social control mechanism. There&apos;s more to this, than you can imagine.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...and there you have it. Or do you?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 14:54:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>metameme</dc:creator>		<category>EBook</category>		<category>technology</category>		<category>paranoia</category>		<category>luddites</category>		<category>ArtificialIntelligence</category>		<category>AI</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: badzen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514377</link>	
		<description>yow, scary .exe file

oh well, already installed.  hopefully no back orifice like programs installed with that...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:01:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514378</link>	
		<description>Freakshows say freakshow things.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:02:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514387</link>	
		<description>fortunately, blogs will save us all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:17:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nauip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514389</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Smart networks using grid technologies&lt;/em&gt;

 Grid Technology, huh? Who knew graphing paper could be so menacing?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:21:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sharksandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514392</link>	
		<description>As I recall, Cap&apos;n Crunch did hold his own against the Crunchberry Beast. Color me convinced.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:27:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FormlessOne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514395</link>	
		<description>If anyone&apos;s silly enough to install that .EXE file, let us know how it goes.  If it installs anything other than a .LIT file, also let us know.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:33:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mokey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514396</link>	
		<description>hmm i&apos;m rather skeptical about this. sounds like a lot of gobbledegook to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:34:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: folktrash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514397</link>	
		<description>i like how all the text is white on white so i can&apos;t read anything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:34:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hellinskira</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514403</link>	
		<description>I read this eBook and have decided to give it all up and to work on a farm.

/a human farm!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:50:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeffj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514411</link>	
		<description>Please download and install this .exe file so that we can show you how a virus-like distributed AI will take over the world!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:56:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514419</link>	
		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foresight.org/NanoRev/Ecophagy.html&quot;&gt;Some Limits to Global Ecophagy by Biovorous Nanoreplicators, with Public Policy Recommendations&lt;/a&gt;&quot; by Robert A. Freitas, Jr.

&lt;em&gt;In a recent interview Stephen Hawking... said &quot;I believe humans must retain their intelligence lead over A.I. even if it means modifying the human race through genetic engineering or turning humans into cyborgs&quot;. &lt;/em&gt;

Why should I care what a cosmologist has to say about AI or genetics?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:08:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MzB</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514437</link>	
		<description>African shepherd opinion about the latest IBM modem:
&quot;It is a very good modem, I used it to crack some nuts and nothing happened to it.&quot;

[/old joke]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:34:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FormlessOne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514449</link>	
		<description>Aw, c&apos;mon - we always listen to people with degrees!  Who cares if they&apos;re not in the field to which the comments refer?  Dr. Laura, Dr. Phil, etc., have made a great career out of it - at least Dr. Hawking seems a wee bit less clueless.

Hell, Dr. Dre could probably get a psychobabble radio talk show at this point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:50:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grabbingsand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514456</link>	
		<description>Given the choice between an hour of Dr Phil delivering aw-shucks hokum, an hour of Dr Laura offering better-than-you drivel or Dr Dre dropping some mad tracks on up in this mutha...

I&apos;m picking Dre anyday.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:01:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514477</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;From the Honda humanoid robot project to Terminator, its just a question of time. So how long do you think it will take? &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/technology_watch/2003/5/meet_asimo/images/tb_c020215.jpg&quot;&gt;No comment.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:36:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wobh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514486</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html&quot;&gt;Ahem&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:49:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514494</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; Hell, Dr. Dre could probably get a psychobabble radio talk 
&amp;gt; show at this point.

*coffee through nose*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:00:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RubberHen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514566</link>	
		<description>This link to the local hard drive on the site does not help....

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/cvdfg/Desktop/THE%20BOOK%20AND%20SITE/html/heaven-or-hell-its-your-choice.com/download-page.htm</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:32:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514575</link>	
		<description>wobh posted the real link Two or three comments up). The main link is derivative chatter.  

Vinge said it all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: badzen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514583</link>	
		<description>ah, seems ok at this point (after installing)

though god knows what the hell i was thinking clicking that sucker.  that&apos;s what i get for not sleeping last night, i guess</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:57:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>badzen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: boswell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514684</link>	
		<description>Yet another reason I thank God I&apos;m running Macs. I cannot possibly install this text.  From the teasers from Crunch and companion, it just looks... well...  too crunchy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514706</link>	
		<description>Hmmm.  Well, I could always download it at the local college library when no one&apos;s looking....</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:56:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anewc2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#514841</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;From the Honda humanoid robot project to Terminator, its just a question of time. So how long do you think it will take?&lt;/em&gt;

Ten years. AI is ten years away. For half a century now, AI has been ten years away, so it must still be ten years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:21:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26838/Heaven-or-Hell-Its-Your-Choice#515917</link>	
		<description>We are no closer to AI then in the 1950s .. computers do the same thing just more and faster. Computers are not &quot;aware&quot; or intelligent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:17:46 -0800</pubDate>
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