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	<title>Comments on: Things That Never Were</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:49:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Things That Never Were</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.monkeybrainbooks.com/Things_That_Never_Were.html"&gt;Things That Never Were&lt;/a&gt; is a new novel from an ex-weblogger. First it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.craphound.com/down/&quot;&gt;Cory&lt;/a&gt; and now   Matthew. Who&apos;s next and are there any other webloggers turned authors?  Not the other way around.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:47:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514576</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m next.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:49:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514577</link>	
		<description>Is anyone out there in blog land &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; trying to write a novel?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:51:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dark Messiah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514589</link>	
		<description>If blogger novels are as compelling as their blogs, then I&apos;ll be ignoring them in favour of more stimulating reading -- like the nutritional information written on my newly-bought box of Special K.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:04:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blissbat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514594</link>	
		<description>Matt Rossi, honestly, was always a standout. A complete loon, and a really entertaining one. Hurrah!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:07:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lnicole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514621</link>	
		<description>I got next after scarabic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:51:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nyx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514624</link>	
		<description>Indeed, Matt&apos;s extraordinary talent manages to stand out from any crowd - even one as potentially diabolically weird as the internet at large. Dark Messiah, may I suggest you put down the War and Peace version of Special K and find some &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ghostdragon.net/&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onceinoticediwasonfireidecidedtorelaxandenjoythefall.org/merkabah/&quot;&gt;interesting&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.decablog.com/jett/blog.php&quot;&gt;blogs&lt;/a&gt; to read?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:58:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boswell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514637</link>	
		<description>Bill Whittle over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ejectejecteject.com/&quot;&gt;Eject, Eject, Eject&lt;/a&gt; is certainly trying to master &apos;the long form&apos; and has, in his last long essay &quot;Trinity&quot; declared that he&apos;s writing a book spun off of his web writing. He&apos;ll probably be published too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:26:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boswell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514638</link>	
		<description>And, for that matter, my first book, RULES OF THE NET, would not have been possible except for about five years on the Well before I wrote it. That and, of course, my collaborator, Tom Mandel. God, it would have been great to see what Tom would have blogged.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:29:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514642</link>	
		<description>i&apos;d by a book by &lt;a href=&quot;http://perceptions.diaryland.com&quot;&gt;bobby burgess&lt;/a&gt; in an instant. someone please publish this kid.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:34:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eilatan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514644</link>	
		<description>I am proud to say that Matt Rossi is a friend of mine.  

He may kill me for posting this link, but if you want to see some early (1993-1994ish) writing of his, head over to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://textfiles.fisher.hu/messages/YABBS/&quot;&gt;yabbs message bases&lt;/a&gt; and search through them for posts by a Badger01.  It&apos;s on a variety of topics and I can&apos;t speak to the quality of it, as I was 18/19.  I&apos;m not saying what my handle was.  

I&apos;m really happy that Matt is finally getting a book published and that I&apos;ll be able to buy a copy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:36:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: teg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514648</link>	
		<description>Cory Doctorow has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.craphound.com/fic/listing.html&quot;&gt;published material going back to 1990&lt;/a&gt;, so I&apos;d call him more of an &quot;author/blogger&quot; than &quot;blogger turned author&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:05:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514664</link>	
		<description>This may be blurring the definition of &quot;blogger&quot; somewhat, but I&apos;d say &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ftrain.com&quot;&gt;Paul Ford&lt;/a&gt; definitely &lt;em&gt;ought&lt;/em&gt; to be writing a novel, even if he isn&apos;t. And if you&apos;d rather stretch the definition of novel, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wileywiggins.com/&quot;&gt;Wiley Wiggins&apos;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.altx.com/ebooks/solarcon.html&quot;&gt;Solarcon 6&lt;/a&gt; is an interesting, albeit somewhat experimental, book available for free download.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:35:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sebas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514667</link>	
		<description>I just read an excellent book called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340821159/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-0416571-5035067&quot;&gt;Things me and my girlfriend have argued about&lt;/a&gt;, which is &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/TMGAIHAA.htm&quot;&gt;loosely&lt;/a&gt; based on the website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/&quot;&gt;www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com&lt;/a&gt; from Mil Millington

Quite an entertaining read!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:42:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quarsan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514669</link>	
		<description>oh god. please god, don&apos;t let &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myboyfriendisatwat.com&quot;&gt;my girlfriend write a book&lt;/a&gt; based on her blog.

it&apos;s like sebas&apos;s link, but on steroids</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:47:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jscalzi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514675</link>	
		<description>My novel &lt;em&gt;Old Man&apos;s War&lt;/em&gt; sold to Tor Books after I serialized it on my Web site last December; Tor&apos;s editor saw it there, read it and made an offer. It&apos;ll be out in May 2004. 

Aside from the specific case of the novel, all the books for which I am the sole author or have contributed to have been published after I begun writing regularly online. The two books I am currently writing have their lineage tracing back to writing I&apos;ve put up on my site: An other novel, which is part of an overall two-book deal Tor, and a book on stupidity (&lt;em&gt;The Book of the Dumb&lt;/em&gt;), the publisher of which, Portable Press, I began a relationship with after it used several entries of my 1999 &quot;That Was the Millennium That Was&quot; online series for its &quot;Uncle John&apos;s Bathroom Reader&quot; line of books.

My experience with writing in and about the online medium was also partially responsible for helping me land my first  book deal for &lt;em&gt;The Rough Guide to Money Online&lt;/em&gt;, which was published in 2000. A second book published last May, &lt;em&gt;The Rough Guide to the Universe&lt;/em&gt;, came out of that relationship. 

I was a professional writer prior to writing on the Web; be that as it may, for the &quot;author&quot; section of my resume, writing online has been very useful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:03:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doctorow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514703</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a writer-turned-blogger, not a blogger-turned-writer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:40:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iconomy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514717</link>	
		<description>Ok so it&apos;s just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user.mefi/1051&quot;&gt;Matthew&lt;/a&gt;, then?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ezrael</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514728</link>	
		<description>Generally, yes, people call me Matthew. Ezrael also works, but obviously, I&apos;m not putting the book out under that nickname.

And it&apos;s not a novel. Truth be told, I have no idea how to describe it. Paul Di Filippo called it speculative nonfiction. I guess that works.

And I will admit to the horrible poetry Natalie was so &lt;i&gt;kind&lt;/i&gt; to point you to. I was young, and very very drunk. This does not excuse how very very horrible it was, however.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:32:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eilatan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514731</link>	
		<description>Well, to be fair, Matt, I&apos;ve got some horrible poetry in there, too.  And while I was young, I wasn&apos;t drunk, so I have no excuse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:46:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamgreenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514769</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I got a book in the works. &quot;The Heart&apos;s Filthy Lesson.&quot;

This may or may not suck. I suppose we shall see.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:24:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eustacescrubb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514797</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Albums/O/THFL.html&quot;&gt;The Heart&apos;s Filthy Lesson?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:07:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yoga</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514802</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is anyone out there in blog land not trying to write a novel?&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, me.  Mine&apos;s simply a storehouse for ideas and things of note.  That&apos;s it.  If others read it, fine.  If not, also fine.  I can&apos;t tell you how many times I&apos;ve searched the archive for a contact or project whose name escapes me in my old age, thankful I had the presence of mind to blog it.  If I had to keep all the links and info and bits of bits in my head I&apos;d have no room to think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:11:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brittney</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514861</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m focusing my efforts on a screenplay.

Ya know--less words, and all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:43:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zedzebedia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514909</link>	
		<description>Good to see Matt getting published.  He&apos;s the only person I&apos;ve known who would skip classes in college to go read in the library.

(Yeah, Matt, I keep saying that, but I still think that&apos;s a cool thing.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:42:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#514982</link>	
		<description>Sorry for the error there Cory. 

Arto, I agree with you about Paul. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tremble.com/scribblins/scribs_outie.html&quot;&gt;Todd Levin&lt;/a&gt; seems to have written everything short of a novel. Then there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myboot.com/&quot;&gt;Craig&lt;/a&gt; who has kept many people waiting for chapter 24 of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myboot.com/futon.html&quot;&gt;She Hates my Futon&lt;/a&gt;, but he&apos;s not been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myboot.com/rat.html&quot;&gt;idle&lt;/a&gt;. And then there&apos;s another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tailorstoday.com/&quot;&gt;Mefi member&lt;/a&gt; that I&apos;d like to see in print.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:53:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#515028</link>	
		<description>Wow, I&apos;d completely forgotten about &quot;She Hates My Futon.&quot;  (I think he was up to maybe chapter ten or so when I left off...) Thanks John!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:41:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Asparagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#515169</link>	
		<description>Oh, and go read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/26758&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt; from July 2nd for discussion about another blogger-turned-writer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:58:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BT</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26842/Things-That-Never-Were#517020</link>	
		<description>None shall read this here, I suspect, at the bottom of this now-elderly thread, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://publishersweekly.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&amp;articleid=CA310244&amp;display=breakingNews&quot;&gt;Publisher&apos;s Weekly&lt;/a&gt; has announced that Grove/Atlantic will be bringing out a book based on Salam Pax&apos;s famed Iraqi blog.  The PW website requires registration, so here&apos;s the full text of their newsbrief:

&lt;i&gt;Salam Pax, the web diarist known as the Baghdad Blogger, has been signed to a deal by Atlantic Books in the U.K., with parent Grove/Atlantic bringing out the book next fall in stateside. The paperback original is the &quot;ultimately embedded&quot; account of the second Gulf War and will feature a collection of Pax&apos;s pseudonymous postings. Pax was the blogger who wrote revealingly and comically of life in Baghdad, maintaining skepticism about both Saddam and the invading armies.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:32:13 -0800</pubDate>
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