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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 2697</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:26:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 2697</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rubberburner.com&quot;&gt;Rubberburner.com&lt;/a&gt; has been making the rounds via email and weblog, as has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.supergreg.com&quot;&gt;supergreg.com&lt;/a&gt;. They both look a little too &quot;perfect&quot; to be true, don&apos;t they? Turns out they&apos;re both carefully crafted ad sites, designed to sell us &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buddylee.com&quot;&gt;Lee jeans&lt;/a&gt;. Will we be seeing more of the Mahir ad model? I wonder how they went about spreading it initially....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:13:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jkottke</dc:creator>		<category>brokenlinks</category>		<category>advertising</category>		<category>leejeans</category>		<category>denim</category>		<category>buddylee</category>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14973</link>	
		<description>Supergreg is registered to Fallon, who brought us &quot;Dick,&quot; the best Miller Lite spokesman EVAH.  Good work!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:26:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jsapn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14974</link>	
		<description>You know, I hate to say it, but building a web tie-in for an ad campaign like this might actually work.
Of course, it remains to be seen what they&apos;re gonna be selling (well, jeans, yes, but &lt;i&gt;specifically&lt;/i&gt;) and how they&apos;re gonna follow through.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14976</link>	
		<description>WhoIs confirms both sites are registered to Fallon.

Jason, where&apos;d you get the info that it&apos;s a Lee Jeans campaign?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:43:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tubes</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14977</link>	
		<description>Whoops. Never mind. Buddylee.com just finally finished loading in another window &amp; I see what&apos;s up...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:44:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tubes</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14979</link>	
		<description>Is it just me or does every photo at the supergreg.com site look doctored to enhance supergreg&apos;s uni-brow? </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:58:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jkottke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14980</link>	
		<description>Yeah, Lee has been a client of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fallon.com&quot;&gt;Fallon&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; for years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:59:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deckard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#14995</link>	
		<description>Well I&apos;ve seen the commercial with Super Greg challenging Buddy Lee many times, but I havent seen Curry anywhere yet. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:30:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>deckard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the webmistress</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15002</link>	
		<description>You mean that Curry, the slim and handsome Italian race car driver with terra-cotta Fabio locks that I dream about every night, isn&apos;t real? 

I&apos;ve given that leather-wearing poser three links on my weblog. This is rich. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:09:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the webmistress</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EssenDreck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15003</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not a webmaster, but I play one on my web site.

Where is Jean Baudrillard when we need him?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:17:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean_Paxton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15005</link>	
		<description>&gt;
&gt; I wonder how they went about spreading it initially....
&gt;

I think that I first saw Curry on cruel.com, then stileproject.com made a remark or two about them, the supergreg popped up on some weblogs.  The rest just snowballed, very quickly too.  Like within the last three weeks.  

Anyway, my hat is off...  brilliant work.  

I don&apos;t think this will be the end by any means. We better figure a way to deliver the billions and trillions of dollars in internet revenues to &quot;Tha Man.&quot;  Because banner ads are just not cutting it anymore.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:54:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean_Paxton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sixfoot6</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15007</link>	
		<description>I agree that banner ads aint cuting it anymore. But do we really want advertising to blend into artistic and personal sites so well that we can&apos;t tell the difference anymore? Both the Curry and Super Greg sites are hilarious, and humorous advertising never bothers me much, no matter how it&apos;s presented. But I worry about crafty marketing schemes weaseling their way into content, be it in a website, a movie, or a TV show.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:16:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15009</link>	
		<description>Ok, so it&apos;s good.  Is it bad?

My outlook on this sort of thing is: *somewhere* on the site, admit it&apos;s an ad, and have a sense of humor about the whole thing, and I&apos;ll be impressed.  You&apos;re allowed to hide it a *little*: if I don&apos;t get the joke, it wasn&apos;t *for* me...

Otherwise, you&apos;re a shithead.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:19:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15013</link>	
		<description>No interesting comments in the source, but you *did* notice that Fallon McElligott has good taste in HTML creation programs, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:33:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean_Paxton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15020</link>	
		<description>Also, here&apos;s another one: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.borntodestroy.com&quot;&gt;Born to Destroy&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:12:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean_Paxton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rcade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15022</link>	
		<description>I like the hoaxes that never admit they are hoaxes, personally.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:16:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rcade</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bradlands</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15025</link>	
		<description>Egads...what if Matt&apos;s been having us on all this time, and MeFi is a hoax? (Admittedly, Zach and Eric are pretty hard to believe at times, and don&apos;t even get me started on WWWendall. But I&apos;d be a bit distraught to discover that I too am a fictional construct, soon to be caught shilling for the Gap or somesuch. :-))</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:26:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradlands</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sylloge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15031</link>	
		<description>The Gap, eh? Isn&apos;t pretty obvious by this point that the whole &quot;weblog&quot; thing is construct of the CafePress and PayPal Consortium (CPPPC)? Nice attempt at a distraction though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:53:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sylloge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15034</link>	
		<description>Curses, they&apos;ve figured me out, and mere hours before I was going to start cashing in with the &quot;Babe the Singing Bar-B-Q Baby Back Ribs&quot; t-shirt...

&lt;small&gt;You think I&apos;m kidding... you know I&apos;m not kidding... you&apos;re going to go visit oneswellfoop.com TOMORROW (8/3) to see if I&apos;m kidding...

BTW, the name&apos;s WWWWend&lt;b&gt;E&lt;/b&gt;ll... WWWWend&lt;b&gt;a&lt;/b&gt;ll is the webmaster for Arrested Development&apos;s fan site...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:13:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wendell</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sixfoot6</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15042</link>	
		<description>Shame on you, Matt, for fabricating thousands of MeFi users just to try to trick me into buying a mug or T-shirt.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:57:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sixfoot6</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15092</link>	
		<description>I think we&apos;ve all been looking at these sites backwards. My guess is Fallon only intended for people to access these sites &lt;b&gt;from&lt;/b&gt; the Lee page(s). But one or two people went to buddylee.com, saw Curry et al, send the links without proper explanation to a few mailing lists or newsgroups, and away the meme went.&lt;p&gt;I mean, even as k3wl ads, it just doesn&apos;t make any sense to have pages with absolutely no information on the page about the product you&apos;re plugging. </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:03:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15093</link>	
		<description>By the way, I just learned that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www3.cybercities.com/d/dcmcnamara/&quot;&gt;Anti-Porn&lt;/a&gt; is actually an ad for Monistat 7.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jkottke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15115</link>	
		<description>Wired News has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,37985,00.html&quot;&gt;an article&lt;/a&gt; on this, with quotes from this thread.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:39:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jkottke</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15121</link>	
		<description>Uh-oh. In that case I take back the part where I said I had the hots for monobrow. That did post, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:04:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dhartung</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15126</link>	
		<description>Wow.  Wired&apos;s watching MeFi.  I feel so... In the loop.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:34:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cCranium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15139</link>	
		<description>Damn you, Kottke.

Hey, Wired?  That&apos;s &apos;baylink.pitas.com&apos;.  Please spell it right.  :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:42:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>baylink</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: magnetbox</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15247</link>	
		<description>Yay! I got called a sucker!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:23:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>magnetbox</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: metascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15337</link>	
		<description>I agree that these type of promotional sites are so much better and cooler than banner ads (as if that needed saying). I don&apos;t feel hoodwinked or anything. But I&apos;m also not going to go out and buy Lee jeans. I only wish they had done a bit more with the pages...perhaps made the site bit deeper (add&apos;l pages, links) like the space ghost site.

Also, I am reminded that Levi&apos;s has done some interesting web projects in the past, which although perhaps a bit more literal, were more likely to encourage repeat visits by featuring web toys, exclusives, updates, etc. In addition, the approach to web promotion used by companies like Altoids is to my mind the sort of marketing strategy that should be encouraged. All in all, I&apos;m glad that big ad agencies and corporations are trying new, creative approaches to promoting products, etc. But then again, I think that in order for  this more sophisticated (?) type of advertising to really come into its own, companies will have to be a bit patient re: immediate sales results. Lots of really great advertising campaigns have been nixed because although they were memorable and even became cultural touchstones, they did not move units off the shelf. </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2000 16:34:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>metascene</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Zeldman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#15384</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ad-rag.com/article.php3?sid=16&amp;mode=threaded&amp;order=0&quot; target=&quot;eljefe&quot;&gt;seen this?&lt;/a&gt; from the horse&apos;s mouth. courtesy of dabitch, who runs ad-rag.com.
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:32:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zeldman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jazzyjeff</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/2697/#47623</link>	
		<description>An ad?  Does anyone think that this tool is also just a weird ad site?

http://www.randywanker.com/

He seems too crass to be anything commercial, but so was that Curry guy.

Jeff</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2001 16:41:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jazzyjeff</dc:creator>
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