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	<title>Comments on: Mercedes Gullwing</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:41:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Mercedes Gullwing</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm?NewsID=2030711.001&amp;Page=1"&gt;The Gullwing&lt;/a&gt; is back. More photos &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.germancarfans.com/photos.cfm?PhotoID=3030603.001&quot;&gt; here.&lt;/a&gt; Are any manufacturers other than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lamborghini.com/&quot;&gt;Lamborghini&lt;/a&gt; using a gullwing design? Maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.delorean.com/&quot;&gt;DMC&lt;/a&gt; will reappear in the future with their own throwback.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:27:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fezdel</dc:creator>		<category>Gullwing</category>		<category>Lamborghini</category>		<category>DMC</category>		<category>Car</category>		<category>Automotive</category>		<category>Door</category>
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		<title>By: gyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518563</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=848531&quot;&gt;Some guys in Poland building their own SLR&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518569</link>	
		<description>That looks sweet, but I can&apos;t imagine a door opening mechanism working on that tiny A-pillar for the life of the car. Are they sure that&apos;s going to hold up, and not make for a huge blind spot for the driver?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:59:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schlaager</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518570</link>	
		<description>Oops. The gullwing-style doors are the Delorean DMC-type. The Lamborghini-style doors are &quot;scissors.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:59:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schlaager</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518571</link>	
		<description>Also, Lamborghini only puts scissors doors on the V-12 models.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:00:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: machaus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518579</link>	
		<description>I thought gullwing doors were named as such because of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.basf.com/images/7-19-02gullwing.jpg&quot;&gt;their profile?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:15:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518585</link>	
		<description>Gullwing doors will never be practical as long as there are parking lots which require side-by-side parking, eh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:28:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slacy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518591</link>	
		<description>This post is not complete without &lt;a href=http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1321-3.jpg&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1321-10.jpg&gt;pictures&lt;/a&gt; of the new &lt;a href=http://www.autoweek.com/specials/galleries/enzo/enzoA.jpg&gt;Enzo &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.motortrend.com/motor/roadtests/coupe/112_0211_enzo_open_l.jpg&gt;Ferrari.&lt;/a&gt;

(I thought you guys were more up on this kind of stuff?!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:37:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jmauro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518592</link>	
		<description>I would think that gull wing doors would be even better in side-by-side parking.  If the doors work well, they&apos;ll never extend out over the body of the car.  You&apos;d never have to squeeze yourself out between the door and the car, while being careful not to hit the other car.  It would be awesome!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:39:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_crash_davis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518604</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;jmauro&lt;/b&gt;, I think &lt;i&gt;scissor&lt;/i&gt; doors would be OK for side-by-side parking, while true &lt;i&gt;gullwing&lt;/i&gt; doors (Delorean, et al) would result in either trapped passengers or scraped car sides.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:06:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518611</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I thought gullwing doors were named as such because of their profile?&lt;/i&gt;

They are, but scissors doors have a different profile.  Gullwing doors are hinged in the roof and rotate up with the axis of rotation parallel to the long axis of the car.   Scissors doors are hinged on the pillar and rotate up-and-forward.

&lt;i&gt;Gullwing doors will never be practical as long as there are parking lots which require side-by-side parking, eh?&lt;/i&gt;

I can&apos;t see why they&apos;d take up any more space when cycling through than a normal door does.  The weird motions gullwing and scissors doors go through are to keep the door from having to swing waaaaaaay out.  Okay, fine, it&apos;s also to look cool.  And in the case of the original 300SL, it was also to deal with the frame being large enough to require a big sill at the bottom of the cabin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:19:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zsazsa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518621</link>	
		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/h_doors.htm&quot;&gt;DeLorean FAQ&lt;/a&gt; says that the doors only need 12&quot; of clearance -- and once they&apos;re open you have a much easier time getting out of the vehicle.  It&apos;s darn near impossible to get out a normal car with only a foot to the side of you, especially in a coupe with longer doors.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:43:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goethean</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518625</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;That looks sweet, but I can&apos;t imagine a door opening mechanism working on that tiny A-pillar for the life of the car. &lt;/em&gt;

Exactly. I assume that you don&apos;t slam the thing shut like it&apos;s a Chevy truck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:53:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Space Coyote</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518647</link>	
		<description>Maybe it&apos;s time for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bricklin.org/&quot;&gt;Bricklin&lt;/a&gt; to make a comeback. (more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/treasureroom/Bricklin.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

(Sort of the automobile equivalent to the Avro Arrow, except no one here in New Brunswick ever wants to mention it.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:43:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hackworth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518679</link>	
		<description>They can put scissor doors on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lambolounge.com/Building_Notes/Door-wings/Door-Wings.asp&quot;&gt;anything &lt;/a&gt; these days.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:41:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mosch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518688</link>	
		<description>Well, I certainly like them better than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/&quot;&gt;these &quot;gulllwings&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.  (Though to be fair, that hamaan is extremely fast, and all the mods except the doors are functional.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:09:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: planetkyoto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518690</link>	
		<description>The disadvantage of the upward-swinging doors is the possibility of getting trapped if you roll the car over onto the roof. As you burn to death, your wife will look over at you, upside down, and say, &quot;Nice car, macho man.&quot; 

There is a little Japanese car with wing doors, but I can&apos;t remember the name, something like &quot;Mera,&quot; which reminded me of Bora. Can&apos;t find it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:10:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve_at_Linnwood</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518692</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Maybe DMC will reappear in the future...&lt;/em&gt;

AH, duh? Didn&apos;t you see &lt;a href=&quot;http://cinemaniacs.virtualave.net/hundred/backfuture2.jpg&quot;&gt;the movie&lt;/a&gt;?

&amp;lt;/obvious bad joke&amp;gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:17:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518736</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;planetkyoto&lt;/strong&gt;, it&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!pv_content.pv_vehicle_list?search_type=7&amp;search_category=1&amp;search_category_chk=2&amp;make_id=8&amp;selected_make_id=76&amp;make_name=&amp;model_id=388&amp;selected_model_id=31&amp;price_min=&amp;price_max=&amp;keyword=&amp;search_postcode=&amp;search_distance=50&amp;location_id=7&amp;selected_location_id=7&amp;state_id=7&#174;ion_id=&quot;&gt;toyota sera&lt;/a&gt;.  mine&apos;s the one on top.  going cheap!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:03:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Space Coyote</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518753</link>	
		<description>pual: that URL 404ed</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:59:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frasermoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518786</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/11043&quot;&gt;double post&lt;/a&gt;?  

(i only reference coz it was one of my first..)

that home-made SLR is a classic &lt;strong&gt;gyc&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:08:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#518811</link>	
		<description>Aside from the door hinge question, how many millions did they spend to make this car look like a slammed Honca Civic? Front end fascia from Pep Boys, woo woo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:34:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/26982/Mercedes-Gullwing#519288</link>	
		<description>grrr.  if you&apos;re desperate to see my sera mentioned above, you&apos;ll have to search for it under private used cars &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/cs_usedsearch.welcome&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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