Comments on: Breaking up is hard to do.

Breaking up is hard to do.

GaelFC — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:26:38 -0800

Breaking up is hard to do. U.S. Senate intern sends an ill-advised email to a young woman he calls his "intellectual, moral, social, and emotional" inferior. Unclear if he sent it from his senate.gov address or not, but it quickly finds a wider audience. Here's the WashPost article mentioned on the Snopes page.

By: weston

weston — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:39:21 -0800

By the end of the day if I wanted to, I could make a phone call and have your life absolutely ruined but there is no need because you are falling fast enough towards failure without me. In the end, all I can say is that people love me and people hate you. Hmm. Just when I thought I probably couldn't find someone to like less than Tucker Max. : ) I understand that this letter probably had some context it might actually make some small degree of extra sense in, and it sounds like the intern was pretty young, so there are some excuses for the letter's folly, but anyone who talks about intentionally ruining someone else's life with their connections fully deserves some comeuppance.

By: mosch

mosch — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:41:41 -0800

Paul Kelly Tripplehorn, Jr. must hate google more than he hates liberals, fools and the needy combined. I wonder if it would be possible to actually get google to return that first link as the first result for the phrase pompous ass.

By: Wood

Wood — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:47:13 -0800

Why don't you try that mosch and get back to us?

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:49:15 -0800

Folks, he's just the one who got caught. There's zillions more, right behind you.

By: AstroGuy

AstroGuy — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:51:44 -0800

For a college sophomore he spells and writes like a 5th grader. I guess there are no academic standards for becoming a senate intern? Intellectual superior, eh?

By: GaelFC

GaelFC — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:55:43 -0800

And I just noticed...looks like he sent it from his creatively named hotmail account--so not from work. So he's got that goin' for him. Which means it got out not through someone at the Senate, but maybe just through the recipient passing it around.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:21:23 -0800

The juicy stuff, where Neil "Silverado" Bush admits--in a videotaped deposition--to having sex with several women in Thailand and Hong Kong, is down below. Man, these Bush guys are living the dream.

By: birdherder

birdherder — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:26:06 -0800

What a prick. He probably has a successful career in politics ahead of him.

By: wackybrit

wackybrit — Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:54:11 -0800

to a young woman he calls his "intellectual, moral, social, and emotional" inferior I have to sympathise. I find most women to be this way. Well okay, all except the social. But if this chick is his intellectual inferior, then one can only wonder what her spelling and grammar are like! His is appalling!

By: Newbornstranger

Newbornstranger — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:23:17 -0800

Yeah, Wackybrit. Girls are icky. I hear some of them even have cooties...

By: tweebiscuit

tweebiscuit — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:24:39 -0800

... and it sounds like the intern was pretty young, so there are some excuses for the letter's folly ... I'm twenty myself, and I wouldn't grant him any excuses. By the standards of my sub-generation, at least, Kelly Tripplehorn is an abusive, manipulative maniac who should never be let near a woman again.

By: whatever

whatever — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:18:55 -0800

I have to sympathise (sic). I find most women to be this way. Well okay, all except the social. That's one wacky brit. You poor thing having to spend your life tolerating such inferior beings. Being socially inferior yourself, it must be doubly hard.

By: Mossy

Mossy — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:25:56 -0800

Now now people, chill - he wrote this when angry and just dashed it off - look! He didn't even use a spellchecker! From what I've seen of breakups (eh, girls have cooties so I'm enjoying single life :), they can sometimes be pretty hard and raise a high degree of emotions - anger, spite, etc etc resulting from rejection of self or emotional hurt. Sure, he could probably have made a phonecall like that, he would be an arse if he did though, I agree. Moment of anger magnified by the internet. Oh well. Interesting hotmail addy though :)

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:27:34 -0800

Ahhhh...Time the Avenger. Thanks to the Internet, he'll never be able to entirely escape this mistake. I look forward to oh, say about twenty years from now, when any of his underlings, secretary, etc. find this when Googling his name.

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:55:43 -0800

Good, one less prick in the...politics arena ? That's like a drop from a bucket. What about making every politician email disclosable under FOIA ? :)

By: Verdant

Verdant — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:57:56 -0800

20 Years? How about this Thursday night, when a young woman googles her date and finds a would-be lothario instead of a gentleman caller. Of course, this assumes he's more charming in person.

By: PrinceValium

PrinceValium — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 05:26:17 -0800

I've seen cereal boxes more literate than that e-mail.

By: bkdelong

bkdelong — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 05:39:29 -0800

I'm surprised he hasn't removed his email from the Amherst College directory yet.

By: Vetinari

Vetinari — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:00:43 -0800

verdant: even odds that he's charming to the right type; if I read people correctly via snap judgements made from a single e-mail, i'd say he finds a way to work in "daddy made $2.4M last year" and "house in Aspen" on the first date. If she doesn't know what she's getting into, that's sort of her problem.

By: tommyspoon

tommyspoon — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:17:42 -0800

Speaking as a DC native, I love to see interns go down...

By: coelecanth

coelecanth — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:19:41 -0800

To really appreciate this guy you have to see the shit-eating grin he was able to summon up for the Washington Post photographer. Guy's got his whole, consequence-free life ahead of him, doesn't he? He's already interning in another congressional office.

By: trharlan

trharlan — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:31:33 -0800

Hey, whatever, sic yourself. Think wackybrit might be British?

By: aeschenkarnos

aeschenkarnos — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:33:15 -0800

Get used to that grin. Way things are going, it'll be on US stamps in thirty years. :(

By: widdershins

widdershins — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:42:02 -0800

Wait a second here. I completely fail to see why he was fired for this. What does that have to do with anything? Yeah, he's a pompous dick who can't spell. And I'm sure his ex-girlfriend is much better off without him. But per GaelFC above, he sent it from his personal email, not his .gov. So exactly how does this mean that he is not fulfilling his job duties? And whatever, what trharlan said.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:51:00 -0800

Perhaps, just perhaps, his ex is in fact such a b*tch as the letter says. But if she is, it rather looks like a couple that deserved each other, does it not?

By: jacquilynne

jacquilynne — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:00:03 -0800

Count me in the 'don't get it' camp. He seems a wee bit high on himself, but it appears that she's probably a rank bitch, too. And firing? Over a nasty email that was not sent from an official email address? If I got fired every time I said something unpleasant in my personal life, I'd never work.

By: syzygy

syzygy — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:01:38 -0800

widdershins: Senate intern positions are positions of priviledge, they're not actual jobs with contracts or guaranteed workers' rights. You can't really fire an intern - but you can tell them that their internship is up.

By: orange swan

orange swan — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:08:15 -0800

To really appreciate this guy you have to see the shit-eating grin he was able to summon up for the Washington Post photographer. Also get a load of the pink shirt with the little horsie on it. Wouldn't you know he'd be the type to wear that. As for his being fired - yes, it wasn't right to fire him for a personal email sent from his personal account. I suspect it might have played out something like this though - his boss decided it was a huge embarrassment and bad publicity so something had to be done, so the unpleasant lad was "fired", then strings were pulled behind the scene to immediately fix him up with another job elsewhere.

By: angry modem

angry modem — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:30:00 -0800

Someone should send him a link to the discourse on this page.

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:31:44 -0800

Show of hands, please: How many of you think the lad would actually trouble himself to read it?

By: furiousthought

furiousthought — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:38:43 -0800

I'm surprised he hasn't removed his email from the Amherst College directory yet. Well, I'm always looking for more good reasons to trash those alumni fund letters, and this will do wonderfully.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:40:12 -0800

How many of you think the lad would actually trouble himself to read it? Probably as many as actually give a damn what he'd have to say about it...

By: gottabefunky

gottabefunky — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:02:11 -0800

Who can find out which House member he's working for now? I got $1. Or is this like the mysterious girlfriend in the Niagra falls region.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:08:38 -0800

Wait a second here. I completely fail to see why he was fired for this. ... So exactly how does this mean that he is not fulfilling his job duties? If he's working for a Senator, his job duties include not being an embarrassing jackass while his name is on her payroll.

By: troutfishing

troutfishing — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:16:39 -0800

widdershins - ["Wait a second here. I completely fail to see why he was fired for this. What does that have to do with anything?"] I think his employer decided that he was a liability - not for what he said but for the fact that it got out. jacquilynne ["...Count me in the 'don't get it' camp. He seems a wee bit high on himself, but it appears that she's probably a rank bitch, too"] - If so, maybe the two should be chained together and thrown into a pit, to fight to the death like pit bulls or snakes. That way the world will be spared from all the suffering and mayhem they will leave strewn in their wake, as they arrogantly sail through life on their gilded ships of privilege.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:28:46 -0800

"Alfred Lord Tennyson defended [the Carlyles'] marriage, when it was suggested that it was a mistake: 'By any other arrangement, four people would have been unhappy instead of two.'"

By: contessa

contessa — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:44:30 -0800

Tripplehorn reminds me of every character played by James Spader in a move during the 1980s -- smug, spoiled, cruel. Kinda resembles him, too...

By: CunningLinguist

CunningLinguist — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:58:03 -0800

jacquilynne: it appears that she's probably a rank bitch, too. Um, based on what? His juvenile insistance that "everyone hates you, you suck, everyone agrees with me" or the fact that she probably forwarded this out into the world? Depressing to think this creep probably has a bright future in DC. But I guess "I should not get worked up over suck trifles." (hee!)

By: SpecialK

SpecialK — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:09:14 -0800

As for the firing - First, there's the PR aspect. Embarrasing to the senator, to say the least. Second, there's the suggestion that Mr. Tripplehorny made in his email that he could use the priviledge of being an intern to affect his ex-girlfriend's life. The possibility of abuse-of-priviledge is taboo to talk about on Capitol Hill... it's consantly there, and it's constantly used, but they really don't like talking about destroying people's lives like a villan from an action hero B-movie. So as soon as Tripplehorny over there starts spouting that shit off, someone's gotta shut him up. The mafia went out of style a few decades ago, so launching him is the easiest way... Plus, because everyone on Capitol Hill has read that email by now, Mr. Tripplehorny wouldn't be able to do what he claimed -- he's lost all of the power that he had invested in favors from other people.

By: headspace

headspace — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:13:15 -0800

I reckon if they really needed a reason to fire him (which I doubt they do,) the line where he threatens to use all of his fancy-schmancy connections to ruin her and her education probably would have done it. I mean, sure, folks can and do that sort of thing all the time, but I reckon the Senator would be less than pleased to have some pompous intern bragging about it while under her employ. (On preview- SpecialK beat me to it. Damn it.)

By: ghastlyfop

ghastlyfop — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:27:53 -0800

Someone should send him a link to the discourse on this page. I was already aware of it because I'm him, and shame on all of you for casting judgement on me! Everyone hates all of you, and I'm gonna ruin all your careers. Just kidding. What a dick. The picture illustrates the email perfectly.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:50:20 -0800

or a college sophomore he spells and writes like a 5th grader. I guess there are no academic standards for becoming a senate intern? Intellectual superior, eh? yeah, in texas. ever heerd da pressydent speek? Think wackybrit might be British? actually, i rather tend to doubt that. oops. did i type that out loud?

By: widdershins

widdershins — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:44:48 -0800

Well, obviously he was fired for the PR aspect. However, I don't think it's right to fire someone for a personal email that was not connected to his job in any way. What, none of you ever wrote something stupid and incriminating that could be taken out of context? Unless the communication was on company letterhead or specifically mentioned your job, there should be no employment consequences. ROU: If he's working for [Walmart], his job duties include not being an embarrassing jackass while his name is on her payroll. Only if he's acting like a jackass while at work or representing his company. The only thing that makes it somewhat OK to me is that he was an intern, not hired employee, as syzygy said.

By: soyjoy

soyjoy — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:01:35 -0800

Unless the communication was on company letterhead or specifically mentioned your job Which the threat to make a phone call and ruin her life certainly did. Plus the intern thing. Good enough for me.

By: willnot

willnot — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:06:13 -0800

Nobody is owed a job. In most states, people are employed at will meaning they can let you go for almost any reason except those that are discriminatory. Stupid isn't a protected class in this country. Somebody who does one thing that is stupid may well do other things that are stupid, and if I find out somebody was being stupid, then I don't really want to keep employing them anymore. I don't care when they were stupid only that it has now been brought to my attention that they were stupid.

By: rainbaby

rainbaby — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:15:01 -0800

I love to see interns go down I bet you do, tommyspoon, I bet you do. Might could be he sent the email from his personal account but on the job using the job's computer, in which case they still have a reason to discipline him.

By: briank

briank — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:19:29 -0800

Maybe Blair Hornstein can be his tutor. I hear she's wicked smart and not too busy with college this fall.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:00:58 -0800

Only if he's acting like a jackass while at work or representing his company. If you're working for a Representative or Senator, you're *always* representing the "company" while you're on their payroll (and, realistically, before that as well). What you do in your private life can and will affect the politician's electoral fates, so they have every reason to give a damn about what you do "off the clock." If you're not comfortable with that, go into a normal line of work instead.

By: pitchblende

pitchblende — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:22:13 -0800

Note that his ex-girlfriend also was an intern with Kay Bailey Hutchison. So this was connected to his job in an important way, widdenshins. Threatening a co-worker that you're going to ruin their career seems to be plenty of grounds for firing.

By: widdershins

widdershins — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:29:22 -0800

If you're working for a Representative or Senator, you're *always* representing the "company" while you're on their payroll I understand this way of thinking, but I don't agree with it. Call me idealistic, but this guy has not run for office and is not accountable to the public for a clearly personal email. Which the threat to make a phone call and ruin her life certainly did. I didn't get that from the email. The email does not once mention his workplace, and he's got enough personal power (money, knowledge of people who don't like her etc) that the threat does not have to be related to his work. Also, come on - the guy is an intern. Hardly a strong-arm position. That being said, I'm not sure why I'm wasting my breath defending the guy. I think he's a jerk as much as most of you, but I don't agree with the blurring of the personal/public line in this case.

By: Orb

Orb — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:16:27 -0800

Unless the communication was on company letterhead or specifically mentioned your job, there should be no employment consequences. I would say that most likely at 2:11 pm on a Tuesday afternoon, he might have been at work writing that email, so whether it came from an official address or not, it could be that it was written at work. The email does not once mention his workplace ... Because both the sender and the receiver know what workplace is meant by his use of "workplace" and "career". He doesn't have to spell out to her that they are interns at Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison's office. Who knows how it got out to more people, but a likely scenario is him sending it to one of his friends to say "look what I sent that bitch, I showed her". He's a pompous ass, and pompous asses like to brag when they think they have bested someone. Had I been the recipient of said email, I would have posted it on my website ... just 'cause I'm vindictive that way. but I don't agree with the blurring of the personal/public line in this case This line is blurred all the time in the political arena. Anyone remember a scandal involving a man getting a blow job in the White House? Or the one about a Canadian Premier arrested for drunk driving while on vacation? Those were essentially private issues that had public consequences. If Tripplehorny wants to continue in the world of the politicos, he better learn to cover his tracks better. Saying it to her face with an absence of nearby witnesses or tape recorders would have been the smarter move. Things you put in typeface have a way of coming back to haunt you.

By: wackybrit

wackybrit — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:39:29 -0800

I'm sorry, whatever. I'll use your orthographically challenged dialect in future. I don't want to compromize (sic) the intregrity of your language, and it'll be a worthwhile exercize (sic). Oh, forget all that, at least I've got.. er, got.. a bigger willy than you!

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:51:38 -0800

Call me idealistic, but this guy has not run for office and is not accountable to the public for a clearly personal email He's not accountable to the public for squat. He's accountable to Hutchison. If a staffer does something sufficiently embarrassing, it calls into question the Representative's or Senator's own judgment and morality (whether it ought to or not, it does) -- it's fodder for an opposing ad in the next election (So-and-so hires people who do THIS! -- he must think it's fine and dandy. But I share your values...). That can cost votes, Hutchison's bottom line. So he got fired for screwing around in ways that can cost her votes. Can you dig it?

By: IshmaelGraves

IshmaelGraves — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:40:13 -0800

What an amateur.

By: ilsa

ilsa — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:34:35 -0800

I'll say this one more time. Never send an email you aren't willing to read aloud to your boss, your mother, and/or a judge.

By: centrs

centrs — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:15:05 -0800

plus, the people he mentions not liking her and talking about her behind her back appear to be coworkers and one sounds like a supervisor. you can bet your ass if an employee told another employee that their supervisor said they didn't like her he could get fired for it. it sets the company up for a lawsuit.

By: whatever

whatever — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:45:38 -0800

trharlan: Hey, whatever, sic yourself. Think wackybrit might be British? No! Really? You think wackybrit might be British? Damn you're good. Missing the point is my favourite (sic) part of the theatre (sic) that is Metafilter. His superior attitude is understandable now that I know he's a brit.

By: whatever

whatever — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:58:29 -0800

One more thing. Wackybrit: Oh, forget all that, at least I've got.. er, got.. a bigger willy than you! Yes you do. And you still don't get it.

By: andrewraff

andrewraff — Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:26:34 -0800

Sounds like he should give Blair Hornstine a call...

By: Summer

Summer — Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:53:39 -0800

His superior attitude is understandable now that I know he's a brit. Hey! So you react to an immature insult against a huge and varied demographic with an immature insult against a huge and varied demographic? Oh sorry, are you American? Your superior attitude is understandable now I know etc etc etc etc for ever amen. Unless you were being ironic in which case ignore.

By: whatever

whatever — Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:28:38 -0800

Allow me to explain. He insults women: to a young woman he calls his "intellectual, moral, social, and emotional" inferior I have to sympathise. I find most women to be this way. Well okay, all except the social. The arguments on this board are always enlightening. No one has a problem with his blanket statement about women. I criticize his spelling of one word with a simple (sic), which only occurred to me because the spell check pointed it out. He claims superiority to half the world's population (except socially) and I'm the ugly American. I can live with that. The brit part was in response to trharlan: Hey, whatever, sic yourself. Think wackybrit might be British? Do you think he might be wacky as well? I am intellectually, emotionally and morally inferior so I couldn't have guessed that wackybrit might be British. To prove that I'm not completely brain dead, I figured the wacky part out myself. Yes, Summer, I was trying to be ironic. I guess irony really is dead.

By: Summer

Summer — Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:06:41 -0800

Well, the fact that he chose to show his intellectual, moral and emotional superiority by echoing the words of a conspicuously stupid, immoral and emotionally retarded idiot speaks for itself.

By: ilsa

ilsa — Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:21 -0800

/me pulls on fireproof underwear. For that matter, never post anything to MetaFilter that you wouldn't read aloud to your boss, your mother, or a judge.

By: soyjoy

soyjoy — Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:22:28 -0800

whatever, count me in as one who "doesn't get it." Sure you had reason to criticize wackybrit's misogyny, but the "sic" was just plain wrong. That's how the word is spelled in much of the world, and adding "sic" indicated that, unaware of that, you were trying to get in a cheap shot at a typo. No wonder people jumped all over you. Unless you were being ironic in which case ignore. If putting "(sic)" after "sympathise" what passes for "irony" these days, yeah, I guess it really is dead.