Manila Coup Attempt
July 26, 2003 4:10 PM Subscribe
Thrilla in Manila! As yet another coup attempt unfolds in Manila, Dean Jorge Bocobo blogs on. Mabuhay!
"Mabuhay" is a Tagalog greeting loosely translated as "long live!" and I'm unsure as to whether azul is greeting the rebel soldiers with a friendly "Mabuhay" or if he's just filling empty space with the Filipino's trite version of "Aloha."
posted by brownpau at 8:21 PM on July 26, 2003
posted by brownpau at 8:21 PM on July 26, 2003
I hate to snark, but I think a decent FPP on the topic should have a little more commentary and fewer exclamation points. This Time Asia article should provide some background.
posted by brownpau at 8:25 PM on July 26, 2003
posted by brownpau at 8:25 PM on July 26, 2003
The silence in here is deafening, and interesting. I'd guess that it being a Saturday night has at least something to do with it, but I also think a lot of people just don't know what to make of this story, and are unaware of its potential signifigance.
posted by damn yankee at 8:55 PM on July 26, 2003
posted by damn yankee at 8:55 PM on July 26, 2003
(That being, the people whom a government sends out to wage its wars are the most logical and most well-armed constituency to stage a coup in the name of protest/democracy/truth/not being the Bad Guys. Here in the US, our military members are already losing faith in the Bush administration, and you can only watch so many friends get blown away before you say "fuck this.")
posted by damn yankee at 9:10 PM on July 26, 2003
posted by damn yankee at 9:10 PM on July 26, 2003
mumble-q
good morning, and welcome to mumble-q for sunday, july 27, 2003.
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what next? blogger invades pitas?
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i blame bush.
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manila coup. sounds like one of those trendy import/export stores like pier one or pottery barn.
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what sheep?
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i don't feel so good.
posted by quonsar at 9:26 PM on July 26, 2003
good morning, and welcome to mumble-q for sunday, july 27, 2003.
~~~
what next? blogger invades pitas?
~~~
i blame bush.
~~~
manila coup. sounds like one of those trendy import/export stores like pier one or pottery barn.
~~~
what sheep?
~~~
i don't feel so good.
posted by quonsar at 9:26 PM on July 26, 2003
Thankfully, the crisis ended peacefully a couple of hours ago without a shot being fired or a drop of blood hitting the ground.
Mabuhay!
posted by cup at 10:54 AM on July 27, 2003
Mabuhay!
posted by cup at 10:54 AM on July 27, 2003
What's with throwing the word "Mabuhay!" around like some sort of lucky charm? It's not like we Filipinos ever use it for anything but to greet tourists and to fill in blank spaces at political rallies. You wouldn't catch me dead saying "Mabuhay" in conversational Tagalog, let alone in an already-bad FPP.
posted by brownpau at 11:44 AM on July 27, 2003
posted by brownpau at 11:44 AM on July 27, 2003
What's with throwing the word "Mabuhay!" around like some sort of lucky charm?
The poster of the FPP used it, you went on to explain that it was a greeting so I thought that ending with it would be polite. As they say, when in Rome... Nobody is throwing it around and the only one who is referring to it as a lucky charm is you.
It's not like we Filipinos ever use it for anything but to greet tourists and to fill in blank spaces at political rallies.
Thank you for your clarification. My knowledge of Filipino culture is limited to the words maraming selamat (don't know the spelling - only used it in conversation), those delicious baby ducks in eggs and my experiences working with Filipino engineers on projects in Singapore and Japan - experiences which lead me to believe that Filipino people are very friendly, hard-working and easy going. I had no idea that some people found the term "Mabuhay" so offensive and I will try to be more careful in the future.
You wouldn't catch me dead saying "Mabuhay" in conversational Tagalog, let alone in an already-bad FPP.
To each his own, I guess. In the future, however, please check the user profile of the poster before spilling vitriol all over his FPP. This is his third post. Even if the use of a greeting offends you personally, remember that your words and your tone towards him will affect his view of the entire Metafilter community to some degree.
Peace.
posted by cup at 12:59 PM on July 27, 2003
The poster of the FPP used it, you went on to explain that it was a greeting so I thought that ending with it would be polite. As they say, when in Rome... Nobody is throwing it around and the only one who is referring to it as a lucky charm is you.
It's not like we Filipinos ever use it for anything but to greet tourists and to fill in blank spaces at political rallies.
Thank you for your clarification. My knowledge of Filipino culture is limited to the words maraming selamat (don't know the spelling - only used it in conversation), those delicious baby ducks in eggs and my experiences working with Filipino engineers on projects in Singapore and Japan - experiences which lead me to believe that Filipino people are very friendly, hard-working and easy going. I had no idea that some people found the term "Mabuhay" so offensive and I will try to be more careful in the future.
You wouldn't catch me dead saying "Mabuhay" in conversational Tagalog, let alone in an already-bad FPP.
To each his own, I guess. In the future, however, please check the user profile of the poster before spilling vitriol all over his FPP. This is his third post. Even if the use of a greeting offends you personally, remember that your words and your tone towards him will affect his view of the entire Metafilter community to some degree.
Peace.
posted by cup at 12:59 PM on July 27, 2003
wow. what a reaction, brownpau. i'm sorry if my bad post upset you. shame on me, kabayan (compatriot).
posted by azul at 1:25 PM on July 27, 2003
posted by azul at 1:25 PM on July 27, 2003
[Magdalo] accused the government of selling arms to the various armed insurgent groups faced by the military. The group... also accused the government of staging bombings in Davao City and pinning the blame on the Muslim separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front in order to label the group a terrorist organization and secure military aid from the United States.
Magdalo claims the Arroyo government colludes with armed insurgents against the military and stages terrorist attacks in order to secure funding for the military so that the government can combat the insurgents, so they stage a military insurrection in which they call for the removal of Arroyo (a call that they later withdraw).
posted by eddydamascene at 4:30 PM on July 27, 2003
Magdalo claims the Arroyo government colludes with armed insurgents against the military and stages terrorist attacks in order to secure funding for the military so that the government can combat the insurgents, so they stage a military insurrection in which they call for the removal of Arroyo (a call that they later withdraw).
posted by eddydamascene at 4:30 PM on July 27, 2003
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