Comments on: New York power outage

New York power outage

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:33:02 -0800

Massive New York power outage? Boing Boing is among the first to report that a massive power outage just hit much of the Northeast, including New York, Cleveland and Detroit. CNN's breaking news just confirmed it.

By: machaus

machaus — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:35:05 -0800

Toronto and Ottawa and Toledo as well.

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:35:36 -0800

WTF!?!?!?!

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:35:53 -0800

Con Ed plant is on fire in NY. Explosion on 14th Street in Manhattan. Uh oh.

By: alicila

alicila — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:35:54 -0800

my boyfriend just sent me an sms to find out why the power is out in canada. he said that the west coast in the u.s. is out too.

By: Karmakaze

Karmakaze — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:36:32 -0800

We got power back right away in New Jersey. Just a little brownout, really.

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:37:17 -0800

The New York Times homepage says it extends, "North to Toronto, South to Maryland and West to Cleveland and Detroit." They're all on the same power grid? It doesn't make much sense. Everything's fine here in Los Angeles.

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:37:36 -0800

Our power is back on in NJ, but my wife is in NYC and is walking down the stairs from the 15th floor, she hears people screaming in the elevator.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:39:07 -0800

the west coast is not blacked out. KevinSkomsvold: any links?

By: machaus

machaus — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:40:28 -0800

Good thing Jason and the server moved to Boston, eh?

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:40:32 -0800

Phil says Albany, Hartford, and Syracuse are all out. Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire are apparently unaffected.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:41:36 -0800

Apparently Boston is fine, or this server would be off right now.

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:42:17 -0800

KevinSkomsvold: any links? Just watching CNN as I type. All of it is speculation at this point. I'm waiting for the lights to go out in Chicago.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:42:59 -0800

Yep, no worries in Massachusetts.

By: lhl

lhl — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:43:06 -0800

KCRW has live internet radio coverage if you want to hear live coverage right now.

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:44:01 -0800

nobody panic, texas still has juice!

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:45:15 -0800

(i should always ammend my texas jokes to saying i'm in austin and really dislike all the rest of the state) but we have juice!

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:45:59 -0800

Unconfirmed reports of a plauge of locusts heading from the south.

By: blindcarboncopy

blindcarboncopy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:46:53 -0800

The terrorists have already won.

By: KevinSkomsvold

KevinSkomsvold — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:48:46 -0800

Unconfirmed reports of a plauge of locusts heading from the south. *pictures John Belushi's eyebrows from that sewer scene in Blues Brothers* Is the power grid that consolidated that one alleged explosion would blackout that many cities?

By: machaus

machaus — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:49:06 -0800

Via CNN: Niagara-Mohawk power grid overloaded by demand.

By: Steve_at_Linnwood

Steve_at_Linnwood — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:49:10 -0800

CNN says the Niagara Mohawk Power Grid over loaded Not A Terrorist Attack

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:49:21 -0800

thanks for th' radio link lhl

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:49:46 -0800

KCRW says the Niagara Mohawk power grid was overloaded, and this may have just been an accident. No evidence of terrorist activity.

By: donkeyschlong

donkeyschlong — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:50:31 -0800

apparently the "niagra mohawk power grid" overloaded due to natural causes and took the system down, according to some official on the radio.

By: djacobs

djacobs — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:51:02 -0800

Budapest: A-OK!

By: tittergrrl

tittergrrl — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:51:49 -0800

The grid was taken down by the 50-foot tall Son of En-Ron! Someone call Godzilla and Gamera! We need their help!

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:52:27 -0800

*bends down to smooch battery backup*

By: thirteen

thirteen — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:53:29 -0800

They're all on the same power grid? It doesn't make much sense. The new issue of Wired proposes in 20 years the whole world will be on the same grid. The illustration with the article suggests that Canada and the US already are. I cannot imagine the connection between both countries could be severed by the elimination of one facility tho.

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:53:49 -0800

I just got a papercut but there was no evidence of terrorist activity.

By: arco

arco — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:53:52 -0800

Somebody must have plugged in their Dancing Santa.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:55:14 -0800

"She lives in the Niagara-Mohawk power grid. You wouldn't know her."

By: Ufez Jones

Ufez Jones — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:55:17 -0800

Unconfirmed reports of a plauge of locusts heading from the south. We warned you we'd rise again. This time God's on our side. And not that wimpy New Testament one. No sir, the hardass Old Testament version.

By: Slothrup

Slothrup — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:56:35 -0800

How exactly was Gray Davis responsible for *this* power crisis?

By: stefnet

stefnet — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:56:36 -0800

I'm right on the edge of New York State in Bennington, Vermont where we still have power. My mom just called on her cell phone from work in Utica, NY to see what was going on and apparently pretty much all of NY is out. What a mess.

By: thirteen

thirteen — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:56:45 -0800

Budapest: A-OK! I hope she stays that way! ^_^

By: donkeyschlong

donkeyschlong — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:57:22 -0800

Con Ed plant is on fire in NY. Explosion on 14th Street in Manhattan. Uh oh. according to mayor bloomberg, the smoke coming out of the con-ed facility was part of the fail-safe shutdown runoff, not an explosion.

By: sharksandwich

sharksandwich — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:57:23 -0800

God is getting even with those savage Mohawks.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:57:53 -0800

I am picturing jonmc leading a scavenging horde of New Yorkers in a quest for internet access and snack foods.

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:58:19 -0800

i insist that we attack the paper factories and have a change of regime for the sake of bondcliff, who knows what other weapons of mass abrasion they might be hiding

By: widdershins

widdershins — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:58:47 -0800

Complete pandemonium here in (NY-bordering) CT. No traffic-lights in the middle of rush hour. Took my colleague 15 mins to cross 2 streets to get onto the highway - which is completely clogged. It'll take me 2 hours to drive the 20 mins to my house. Fuck.

By: Optamystic

Optamystic — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:59:01 -0800

Somebody must have plugged in their Dancing Santa. I blame that Clark Griswold bastard.

By: jonah

jonah — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:59:23 -0800

mr_crash_davis - did you borrow your cousin's shoes today?

By: whatever

whatever — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:59:32 -0800

This wouldn't happen if Arnold was governor of CA. Bush is expected to address the area after power is back on. Message: Go Shopping!

By: y6y6y6

y6y6y6 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:02:51 -0800

"No evidence of terrorist activity." Just explosions, fires, and a regional power outage. Nothing to see here. Move along. Everything is fine. There is no emergancy, it's just part of our Homeland Security fail-safe shutdown runoff.

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:03:44 -0800

Articles from CNN, MSNBC, Reuters. And as always, you can rely on Yahoo's Message Boards for intelligent and informative commentary. I blame the Y2K bug.

By: piskycritter

piskycritter — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:03:55 -0800

Let's make some babies.

By: Chanther

Chanther — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:04:02 -0800

This sounds like the Great Blackout of 1965 - one station overloads, and then the rest progressively go out as they try to increase power to make up for the one that's out. In the mists of my memory, I thought I remember seeing a documentary where they explained what they learned from 1965, and how such a thing could never happen again. I wonder if this is actually a different set of circumstances altogether, or if the grid was still vulnerable to the same scenario.

By: timeistight

timeistight — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:04:16 -0800

They're all on the same power grid? It doesn't make much sense. Back in 1965 one faulty relay in Ontario sent the whole eastern-seaboard dark for hours.

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:05:21 -0800

Bush is expected to address the area after power is back on mah fluuhoo merrcans, turror turror turror. al kaydo turror. bring it on. less roll. turror turror turror.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:05:31 -0800

*puts down plastic sheeting and duct tape*

By: junkbox

junkbox — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:06:04 -0800

I welcome our new Amish overlords.

By: SpecialK

SpecialK — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:07:04 -0800

Yeah, watch for a baby boom in 9 mos. "Yeah, son, you were conceived in an elevator during a power outage..."

By: the fire you left me

the fire you left me — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:26 -0800

my wife is in NYC and is walking down the stairs from the 15th floor, she hears people screaming in the elevator. I can only imagine what its like for a New Yorker to suddenly be confined to an elevator, no lights, no idea what's going on. Screaming, indeed. Plus, nothing like a little innocuous panic to beef up the poll numbers. No?

By: scarabic

scarabic — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:30 -0800

My we're jumpy.

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:08:53 -0800

I'm going to go meet Richard Dryfuss at Devil's Tower.

By: COBRA!

COBRA! — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:09:00 -0800

And as always, you can rely on Yahoo's Message Boards for intelligent and informative commentary. Wow, that's some harsh shit they're posting over there.

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:09:41 -0800

This article is the most detailed I've seen so far.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:10:01 -0800

Dammit! When I saw the Olsen Twins getting into the elevator I thought 'get some excercise and take the stairs, you'll see them again'

By: Stan Chin

Stan Chin — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:10:40 -0800

Brewster: The virus (MSBLAST) has affected SKYNET? John Connor: No... SKYNET IS THE VIRUS! Today is judgement day!

By: bonehead

bonehead — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:10:48 -0800

Hunh. It hit us, in Ottawa. We kicked over to the generator backup at almost exactly 4:15, and I've spent the past 45 minutes nursemaiding instruments and computers back to life.

By: drezdn

drezdn — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:11:53 -0800

We have power in the Milwaukee, also... cameras. Will this affect the stock market? Not that it matters to me, but just thought of that now.

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:12:33 -0800

Peter H, you forgot "murca murca murca" All is well in DC, by the way.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:15:52 -0800

"Will this affect the stock market?" Well, the electronic after-hours markets will be closed, if that's what you're getting at, which means I'll be sitting here twiddling my thumbs.

By: dness2

dness2 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:16:34 -0800

The stock market was closed anyway. Amazing how fast the web is running now without all those bandwidth hogging Montrealers.

By: bondcliff

bondcliff — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:20:37 -0800

I bet it was these guys.

By: jfuller

jfuller — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:22:53 -0800

> We have power in the Milwaukee, also... cameras. We have power in Georgia. Also indoor plumbing, some of us.

By: Peter H

Peter H — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:24:16 -0800

again, no one panic, texas is fine! although by what i'm hearing over the radio over how well nyc'ers are handling this situation i would really enjoy the chuckle and contrast over watching dallas and houston babies handle the loss of power AND THEIR CELL PHONES

By: nelleish

nelleish — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:27:56 -0800

All clear here in Maine, so it's not "the entire northeast"

By: SpecialK

SpecialK — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:27:57 -0800

Hey, how much do you want to bet that the metafilter server is just running on battery backup at the moment, and will go down at any moment?

By: tapeguy

tapeguy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:29:09 -0800

Those CNN pictures of the bus station makes it look like a flashmob gone horribly wrong...

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:30:02 -0800

SpecialK: It's in Boston now, isn't it?

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:31:05 -0800

Here's a real-time chart from the New York Independent System Operator showing the current supply and demand of electricity in New York.

By: skallas

skallas — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:31:36 -0800

The power is out here, may this carrier pigeon running tcp/ip find you well. Seriously, I just saw two fighter jets circle downtown Chicago from the high-rise I'm in. Someone is paranoid about something.

By: crawl

crawl — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:32:11 -0800

What's very odd is that in the middle of reading this, the power in our building at Cisco Systems here in Phoenix, AZ went out. Power in still on in the street from what I can see, but it kind of looks like power in buildings across the street is out. Thank goodness for laptops and battery backups on switches and routers.

By: m@

m@ — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:35:55 -0800

DEFCON 1, Bears over the Pole. God bless you Richard Nixon, wherever you are.

By: sandor

sandor — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:37:34 -0800

Seriously, I just saw two fighter jets circle downtown Chicago from the high-rise I'm in. Someone is paranoid about something. I'm guessing they're practicing for the Air & Water Show this weekend, not patrolling for evildoers.

By: jeff-o-matic

jeff-o-matic — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:38:29 -0800

skallas: The fighter jets are probably practicing for the Air and Water show that's this weekend here in Chicago. Probably.

By: tapeguy

tapeguy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:39:20 -0800

The authorities had better hope the power comes back soon. I'm just waiting for the sun to go down. The news channel footage of the cops trying to prevent mass looting will be hilarious.

By: macadamiaranch

macadamiaranch — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:40:20 -0800

Skallas--it's the Air and Water show this weekend, you're seeing the practice runs (there goes one now!).

By: 2sheets

2sheets — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:42:55 -0800

I would just like to say that I am opposed to power outages, and if my side was in charge, this wouldn't have happened.

By: Witty

Witty — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:46:35 -0800

The news channel footage of the cops trying to prevent mass looting will be hilarious. Yea, that would be fuckin' funny. Idiot. (well done 2sheets :)

By: jacobsee

jacobsee — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:47:28 -0800

power is still on in salt lake city (just adding my data point)

By: alicila

alicila — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:49:47 -0800

the air and water show is this weekend here in chicago. it is customary for them to begin practice the thursday before the air and water show. the fighter jets you see are for our entertainment.

By: sugarfish

sugarfish — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:49:59 -0800

ahh, thanks for the explanation about the power jets. i got freaked out when i heard those, too.

By: linux

linux — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:51:17 -0800

It would be interesting to see how NYC handles a night without power in 2003 compared to the downright friendly atmosphere during the blackout in 1965.

By: sugarfish

sugarfish — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:51:47 -0800

ok, damnit, we HAVE to have a chicago meetup. there are too many of y'all hearing the same damn jets i am.

By: stazen

stazen — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:52:59 -0800

I wouldn't be so quick to discount the possibility that this was caused by a terrorist attack - frontline: cyber war!: vulnerabilities: the power grid? In a potential cyber attack on the U.S., there are experts who believe one of the targets could be the country's electric power grid. By exploiting vulnerabilities in the control systems utility companies use to remotely monitor and manage their operations, U.S. cities could be blacked out for extended periods of time. ... When we go after an electrical power system, electrical power provider for the critical infrastructures, we always penetrate that system. And we do that in a number of ways: through social engineering, through cyber means. What this points out is that there are a number of vulnerabilities that exist for a certain level of adversary. This doesn't mean that there's no security or that we can penetrate with the simplest means. It just means as a sophisticated adversary, as a national lab, we are eventually able to get in. The fact that we're able to penetrate these systems all the time is significant in that it shows that industry isn't able to apply security mechanisms to their critical infrastructures. This is for a couple of reasons. Number one, they don't have a business case to apply that security, and the awareness is being raised now where they're starting to realize that this may be important. ... Could your team, if you wanted to, take down the entire grid in the United States? The IDART red team could demonstrate numerous vulnerabilities and system effects against U.S. critical infrastructure that are scenario-dependent and adversary-dependent, and we do this so that we can help improve the systems so that they can't be taken down in the future and a cyber Pearl Harbor won't affect the U.S. infrastructures. But could you if you wanted to? I won't answer that question. ...

By: tapeguy

tapeguy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:54:40 -0800

Yea, that would be fuckin' funny. Idiot. The ineptitude of news achors whilst they try to cover live events sometimes can bring about hilarity, you know. That's what I meant to point out, anyway.

By: MidasMulligan

MidasMulligan — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:55:13 -0800

At home in mid-town Manhattan ... no power in my building, but the land lines still work (good thing too, as all 7 million people in NYC are now simultaneously trying to use their cell phones). But a neighbor just knocked on my door saying the building is having a spontaneous "Blackout 2003" party on the roof. God I love New York.

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:55:53 -0800

Why do you all hate power outages so much? That's unpatriotic!

By: sugarfish

sugarfish — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:57:00 -0800

ok, my last comment, in this thread at least: i never realized how much bloomberg looks like mr roper.

By: dhoyt

dhoyt — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:57:47 -0800

Hey Skallas, the fighter jets are actually for the upcoming airshow. /just wanted to jump on the bandwagon

By: Witty

Witty — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 14:59:54 -0800

Mutha do ya think they'll drop the bum?

By: afx114

afx114 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:06:41 -0800

I wish the power would go out in San Diego, too.. then I could go home from work.

By: jason

jason — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:07:45 -0800

Ach! It's never terrorists in Chicago! We're not important enough, apparently. C'mon, terrorists! Where's the love?

By: realjanetkagan

realjanetkagan — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:09:31 -0800

Wayne, NJ: Holy carrier pigeon---I've never heard my UPS SCREAM like a wounded soprano before! Uh. Must have been that surge the poor critter's supposed to be protecting me from, because the only thing I've ever heard from it before is a really irritating tenor-with-a-stutter. At the same time, NPR went bye-bye and so did the overhead light. The light came back on, the radio didn't. I thought the surge had fried our age-old speakers but I cranked the sound up and found they were still up ever so faintly. Somebody (bless the child) had the presence of mind and the fast reflexes to drop our local node out of the grid. I've powered down everything in the house I safely can: the less strain on the system when they try to bring it back up, the better, say I. [Forgive me if I post without proofing.]

By: thirteen

thirteen — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:09:35 -0800

It is all crazy with the jets today. I hate that damn watershow.

By: tomcosgrave

tomcosgrave — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:11:44 -0800

Someone set us down the power! What you say?! All your power are belong to us!

By: ook

ook — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:13:51 -0800

4:4 9 PM Now that is a testament to the simultaneity of the American media system. Or did Machaus, Steve_at_Linnwood, waxpancake and donkeyschlong all just happen to be listening to the same station?

By: Postroad

Postroad — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:22:49 -0800

We didn't have this sort of huge blackout when Clinton in office. Recall Bush and get Terminator in!

By: wibbler

wibbler — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:26:06 -0800

The worst thing for me is that MSN Messenger appears to have stopped working...

By: fullerine

fullerine — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:26:49 -0800

I welcome our new Amish overlords There is no ~~Cabal~~ Cable

By: thedailygrowl

thedailygrowl — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:29:31 -0800

GOT SOLAR? GOT WIND?

By: realjanetkagan

realjanetkagan — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:29:41 -0800

"I wish the power would go out in San Diego, too.. then I could go home from work." --- afx114 Be careful what you wish for. I just got a collect call from my guy, who was on a client site in Manhattan today, saying he'd walked down from the 37th floor and had walked across town to Port Authority and that he would be---very slowly---making his way up the all-too-many-flights-of-stairs to his car. If that doesn't do it for you, think of all those people still stuck in elevators and subway trains. waxpancake: Many thanks for the links that let me know what was actually happening!

By: Inkslinger

Inkslinger — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:31:25 -0800

Here's a real-time chart from the New York Independent System Operator showing the current supply and demand of electricity in New York. Nice link, waxpancake. Via Boing Boing, an page of phonecam images from a couple people in blackoutland (mixed with some TV frame grabs.) Unfortunately but unsurprisingly, the NYC DOT webcams appear to be out of order.

By: linux

linux — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:33:12 -0800

"I wish the power would go out in San Diego, too.. then I could go home from work." --- afx114 It'd be worse here in Southern California. A lot of people live 40 miles from home. With the traffic system down, including rail, and no place to go, you won't be working, but you won't be going home either. Not to mention we don't have rooftop Blackout 2003 parties. The history of this area tends to suite a five-finger discount sort of rave.

By: linux

linux — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:37:00 -0800

More from CNN: "We understand that, from Con Ed, that we had a power surge and a dip and a failure that originated in Ontario," McCarton said. I'd so laugh if it ended up being a power relay. 38 years later, and they still haven't sorted this out.

By: linux

linux — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:38:22 -0800

fixed link

By: Hildago

Hildago — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:41:52 -0800

Oh those heroic New Yorkers, let us praise them.

By: GaelFC

GaelFC — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:42:29 -0800

One TV reporter just talked to a bodega owner who said right now his ice is 99 cents, but by nightfall it will be $6.

By: limitedpie

limitedpie — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:45:58 -0800

Most unfortunately, this is likely to set back the crucial grass roots efforts to shut down Indian Point (the nuclear power plant 22 miles North of Manhattan.)

By: swerve

swerve — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:46:07 -0800

I thought our dip and failure originated in Texas.

By: feelinglistless

feelinglistless — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:48:09 -0800

Serious question: Could this be a Pinch? (see Ocean's Eleven)

By: Mick

Mick — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:55:06 -0800

Contrary to Fox News Cincinnati and Dayton still have power.

By: strangeleftydoublethink

strangeleftydoublethink — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:00:24 -0800

Whew, I"m so glad the power is still on in Dayton, cuz once Dayton goes out, it's all over.

By: Espoo2

Espoo2 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:03:56 -0800

Most unfortunately, this is likely to set back the crucial grass roots efforts to shut down Indian Point (the nuclear power plant 22 miles North of Manhattan.) Although I don't necessarily think all nuclear power plants are evil, it was interesting to learn from the news today that nuclear power plants require outside electricity to run and rely on fuel-burning plants, which is why the nuclear plants in the area were shut down.

By: wsg

wsg — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:06:28 -0800

On the ABC Nightly News at 5:30 pm cst tonight, the first call that Ted Koppel (Peter Jennings is on vacation) took was from a guy who said that everyone affected by the power outage should visit thankyoufortakingmycall.com which, it tuns out, is a web site about pranking news media outlets. The site is small and running very slowly, cuz they just got a plug on a network in primetime, but there are some pretty funny examples.

By: realjanetkagan

realjanetkagan — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:07:30 -0800

WYNC-FM is back up, sorta. "...broadcasting via telephone..." Says roughly that there are long lines for a public transportation but that "...the bars are packed." Gee, I can't imagine why ;) ? Update from my guy: he just made it into NJ but he'll be a bit while he drops off the car-load of people he picked up that were going approximately his way. Jez, they're saying the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels are now shut down! I can't tell you how happy I am he and his hitchhikers made it out before that happened!

By: fluffy1984

fluffy1984 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0800

I don't suppose anyone knows whether the triboro or throgs neck or whitestone bridges are open. I'm stuck in CT trying to get home & they're not mentioning anything about those bridges on the fucking radio.

By: sfenders

sfenders — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:44:16 -0800

I can confirm that being stuck in traffic in a big city when all the traffic lights go out is not much fun. At first it was okay, but then everyone in the city simultaneously decided to drive home from work early. Some guy on TV says it was a lightning strike on a niagara falls power plant. Power is being restored in various areas already, should be up almost everywhere in a few hours. So, no big deal really, for 99.9% of us. They keep repeating that no terrorists were involved. But wait.. that's exactly one of the things they might say if the terrorists really did it! We're doomed!

By: marzenie99

marzenie99 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:13:27 -0800

Everyone (news-site wise) keeps saying "...as far west as Michigan"... is this true? Can't get anyone on the phone over there.

By: Mo Nickels

Mo Nickels — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:33:08 -0800

Self link to some photos and comments from here in New York City. Now waiting for compelte darkness so I can go looting. I need a new teevee.

By: troybob

troybob — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:39:42 -0800

Boing Boing is among the first to report... Given that the power outage is described as massive, it's not exactly the scoop of the century. So why the superfluous plug?

By: KirkJobSluder

KirkJobSluder — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:53:01 -0800

nobody panic, texas still has juice! Heh, perhaps the only thing New Yorkers and Texans have in common is an over-exaggerated sense of self-importance.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:57:35 -0800

Reuters says it was indeed a lightning strike. Time to add Thor to the terrorist list.

By: whatever

whatever — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:59:08 -0800

Bush just referred to the situation as a "rolling blackout". I thought rolling blackouts were planned, like the one's we had in California a few years ago. Am I wrong?

By: baylink

baylink — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:02:02 -0800

Well, the president is on every channel (on tape; my guess is they couldn't shake a transponder loose to go live), and he's demoted this it a "rolling" blackout. So, why is it, again, that I'm supposed to believe him when he says it's not terrorists? "Massive national problem" indeed...

By: baylink

baylink — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:04:19 -0800

"The term of art we'll learn from this is 'cascade'." Unless our name is George. Curious George? Maybe not...

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:05:23 -0800

So, why is it, again, that I'm supposed to believe him when he says it's not terrorists? Of course it's terrorists. The lightning bolt is a smoking gun which points to Thor. Thor is worshiped by the Asatru, most of whom live in Iceland. Clearly we must invade Iceland.

By: mathis23

mathis23 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:21:45 -0800

It's now 8:20 CDT, meaning this thing is some 5 hours old. At what point exactly are all of the cable newsies legally required to take down their "BREAKING NEWS" banners?

By: mcwetboy

mcwetboy — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:25:20 -0800

The whole province of Quebec is unaffected. I'm amazed that I can dial in via my ISP, which is based in Ottawa. CBC Radio reports that the power is gone in almost all of Ontario, as far north as Timmins. They seem to be restoring power here and there in spots. Just heard: Civilians taking it upon themselves to direct traffic untill the cops politely told them to cut it out. Neat.

By: baylink

baylink — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:25:49 -0800

Next Wednesday, Mathis.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:31:59 -0800

"The lightning bolt is a smoking gun which points to Thor. Thor is worshiped by the Asatru, most of whom live in Iceland. Clearly we must invade Iceland." That's good, homunculus, but using Dubya logic we'd invade Chile, not Iceland.

By: rusty

rusty — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:59:03 -0800

linux: "...here in Southern California [a] lot of people live 40 miles from home." You Californians are crazy! Luckily Maine doesn't trust the other 49, and we have our own grid. My broadband went out for an hour or so though. Damn Time-Warner, they just wanted in on the fun I think.

By: alicesshoe

alicesshoe — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:29:06 -0800

Althought the power has been restored in downtown Toronto [21:45], earlier on though, it wasn't so bad crossing major intersections by car without stop lights, cars taking their turns. There were some SUV's that didn't wait their turn, but overall, not as bad as I would have imagined. What did get me thinking was if the power wasn't restored till say a week, would I have to take a dip in Lake Ontario with a bar of soap and towel? *shudders* I vote for getting off the grid and not holding on to mommy america's skirt. Time to grow up and be a tad more self reliant.

By: shadow45

shadow45 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:38:27 -0800

*sniff* a moment of silence for all the lost uptimes...

By: spilon

spilon — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:28:55 -0800

It seemed to only take about 20 minutes for our fearless leaders to conclude that "this is not a terrorist attack." Obviously, if they don't know what it was, then they don't really know what it wasn't, and that message was just to make people not panic. But the possibility that nobody seems to even be speculating about is whether this was the result of a hacker attack. That such a vulnerability exists has been know for quite some time. It wouldn't suprise me if a rec room full of pimply high school geeks set these wheels in motion.

By: niteHawk

niteHawk — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:56:07 -0800

Yeesh... just to add my 2cents... I JUST got home to North Jersey from my job in Midtown NYC. What a long day... I happen to work for the largest Hospital conglomerate in the city, and we got to findout exactl how long our generators will last... turns out - not quite long enough.... scrambling around trying to find desiel fuel to refuel them is not a fun thing to do.... *sigh* I'd LOVE to know WTF happened... I mean, cmon what could cause all these states and cities to go down simoltanioulsy?

By: damclean2

damclean2 — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:06:15 -0800

It wouldn't suprise me if a rec room full of pimply high school geeks set these wheels in motion. With what? Their own lightning machine? Now that's straight out of Real Genius and I like it!

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:03:42 -0800

Whew, I"m so glad the power is still on in Dayton, cuz once Dayton goes out, it's all over. You don't realize how right you are. If the power went out in (whats left of) downtown Dayton the rioting and looting would make the fall of Baghdad look like a Grateful Dead show. I shudder at the thought. "Dayton is scary after dark." -Mr Carlson, WKRP in Cincinnati I was raised in Dayton, trust me

By: yupislyr

yupislyr — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:34:58 -0800

Finally got power back on my street in Windsor about an hour ago. Though one street over, they've had power since at least 10pm ET. Bah "The whole province of Quebec is unaffected. I'm amazed that I can dial in via my ISP, which is based in Ottawa. CBC Radio reports that the power is gone in almost all of Ontario, as far north as Timmins. They seem to be restoring power here and there in spots." I was able to dial in and got online too on a backup account I have but with only 2 hours of laptop power left and the news reporting that power MAY be down as long as Monday, I was going to conserve it. Heh. It really wasn't that bad around here. I didn't have work so I was home anyway, and when everyone else did get home in the neighbourhood, everyone was outside all at once. I saw some neighbours outside for the first time all summer. Hah. Most were having barbeques and bonfires and swimming and socializing and even partying. That is, other than those that went off to stock up on batteries and whatnot or go wait in line at whatever gas station it was that was still open.

By: XQUZYPHYR

XQUZYPHYR — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:44:29 -0800

Good morning all from New Jersey, it's 3:45 AM EST and power just came back on here. Jesus, this is like snow days when the plow came through an hour before school started.

By: GrahamVM

GrahamVM — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:17:06 -0800

It's OK. Someone just thought Matrix Reloaded was a documentary.

By: muckster

muckster — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:28:52 -0800

Finally. Astoria power is back. And I thought it was bad when mefi was down.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:41:16 -0800

Yeah, just got power back. I'm in Astoria, too. What a night. I walked from hudson Street in Soho up to 59th across the bridge and up to Ditmars. One for the record books.

By: Orb

Orb — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:47:49 -0800

While terrorism was swiftly ruled out by President Bush and other officials, there was scant indication of what had caused the outage, which began on the cusp of Thursday's afternoon rush hour in Eastern cities. - source We have NO idea what caused it, but you can be SURE it wasn't them damn terrorists. I hear one more government type telling us it wasn't terrorists, and I am going to start thinking it WAS. :D

By: adampsyche

adampsyche — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 04:10:46 -0800

I JUST got home to North Jersey from my job in Midtown NYC. How the hell did you get home? Were there still ferries running?

By: i_cola

i_cola — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 04:52:43 -0800

But a neighbor just knocked on my door saying the building is having a spontaneous "Blackout 2003" party on the roof. God I love New York. Indeed. So does his cousin who ripped off everyone's stuff whilst they were gawking on the roof ;-)

By: languagehat

languagehat — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 05:07:57 -0800

Damn, I somehow missed this thread and posted my thrilling tale in the Blackout History Project one. Hey jonmc, too bad we didn't run into each other on the bridge! (*whistles "Feelin' Groovy"*)

By: Marquis

Marquis — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:00:29 -0800

The power's still out (almost entirely) in Ottawa, but everything's fine in Gatineau, where I work, thanks to the benificence and good fortune of the leftwing Quebec government. Last night was beautiful and apocalyptic. My story's in my blog.

By: Faze

Faze — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:06:48 -0800

You know the story about there being a spike in births nine months after a blackout? It's not going to happen in Cleveland. The reason: No water. Imagine not being able to wash. Eeeeew.

By: GrahamVM

GrahamVM — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:14:20 -0800

Wouldn't they do it anyway?

By: Blue Stone

Blue Stone — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:16:02 -0800

American runs out of toilet paper - News At Ten Special Report.

By: lisa g

lisa g — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:41:09 -0800

So when it happened I was in Rockaway Beach, Queens -- which for those of you who don't know NYC, is about the furthest away from midtown Manhattan you can be and still be in New York City. On a good day it's still more than an hour's subway ride from there to my home in Long Island City, Queens (across the East River from the U.N.). So I knew I'd have an adventure getting home without the subway. But some great things happened along the way: * At the time I was eating in a restaurant in Rockaway, and since I couldn't pay for it with my credit card or go to an ATM, I used the last of my cash in my wallet -- $10 -- to pay for my meal. When a waitress found out I had to get home with only my Metrocard (which works on buses as well as the subway) but no cash, she gave me $10 of her own just in case I needed it, and her address so I could repay her "whenever." * With my Metrocard I began taking any combination of random buses that would get me away from Rockaway, and ended up riding through various Brooklyn neighborhoods that I'd never seen from above ground. People were just hanging out on the sidewalks, having barbecues and playing cards, while the people driving cars became amazingly polite and turned every intersection with useless streetlights into a four-way stop. Never heard a damn horn, which is pretty amazing. * I ended up in South Williamsburg, on a street where I knew I could catch one final bus, the B61, back to my own neighborhood. But I stood there for more than an hour, and the few buses that passed were packed sardine-like and wouldn't stop. Finally a guy in a big car slowed down and offered me and the six people I was standing with a ride to Greenpoint, which was much closer to where we needed to be. So we all piled in his car as he talked about the blackouts of '77 and '68. I gave him the $10 bill the waitress had given me, and some of the other strangers gave me dollar bills. * From where he dropped us off, it was only about a 20-minute walk back to my place. By this point the sun had set and it was completely dark, but people had put candles on the sidewalks to help pedestrians navigate. One guy passed us carrying a torch. * As I approached home, I was pretty dehydrated from my three-hour journey; all the 24-hour delis and various places where one could get water were shut down. And I'd called my husband and learned that our building didn't have running water, as the pump was electric. On my otherwise empty street, though, there was a Vitamin Water truck, with a guy behind the wheel who was starting it up. I asked if he was selling any Vitamin Water -- I had $4 in my pocket -- and he said, no, he'd just been giving away promotional bottles, but he was out of the promo packs. When I mentioned that my building had no water, he looked alarmed and said, "Well, we might have a few bottles in back." He fished out five for me and my neighbors, and refused to take any cash. * And I made it home. I like New York.

By: subgenius

subgenius — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:45:54 -0800

I spent the night on a couch in midtown. When the lights went out, we walked down 29 flights of stairs to the street; then walked over to a bar on Ninth Ave. Not much drama. Does anyone know whether the state courts in Manhattan are open? I am supposed to file a brief in the First Department today, but my office is basically closed and no one is answering the phone at the appellate division. I realize this means I'm probably in the clear, but it would be nice to get some confirmation.

By: gyc

gyc — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:06:37 -0800

Power just came back on in Ann Arbor. Of course, the first thing I do is come here and get my fix.

By: krunk

krunk — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:18:37 -0800

Here in Kingston, Ontario, my power came back on at 2:15AM, apparently the *last* block in the entire town. Everyone else had power hours earlier. Didn't matter though, had about 30 people having fun in my yard until the police came and made us all shut up. boo-urns! I like how everyone's first reaction when the power goes out is "must drink booze!"

By: timeistight

timeistight — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 08:57:03 -0800

Great post, lisa g.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:11:03 -0800

I vote for getting off the grid and not holding on to mommy america's skirt. Time to grow up and be a tad more self reliant. We're wildly self reliant and ship way more power to the US then they ship to Canada. I'm a little surprise no one has gloated about their pool of power due to generator goodness. The Montreal ice storm was a real wake up call for me.

By: aaronetc

aaronetc — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:17:08 -0800

Get 'em while they're relevant: I survived the NEW YORK BLACKOUT of 2003! (in Detroit) (or Cleveland).

By: aacheson

aacheson — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:19:55 -0800

Yeah, that was awesome lisag. Very well done. And people say we're crazy to live in California.... PAH!

By: nicwolff

nicwolff — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:27:29 -0800

I remember in the San Francisco blackout after the Loma Prieta quake in '89 the bars started giving away the beer before it got too warm... Any of that going on in NYC? (I'm away for the summer.) *sniff* a moment of silence for all the lost uptimes... — shadow45 Not my servers! My partner is camped out in one of the few places with lights and air conditioning: the Verio colocation facility in the old Port Authority building on Eighth Avenue in Chelsea. They've got enough fuel in the basement tanks to run the backup generators for two weeks... [On preview] I'm a little surprise no one has gloated about their pool of power due to generator goodness — Mitheral Gloat, gloat.

By: GaelFC

GaelFC — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:28:43 -0800

So there was little to no crime in NYC and massive looting in CANADA? This was definitely the Bizarro World Blackout...

By: grum@work

grum@work — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:37:23 -0800

My little story: Since most gas pumps are run electronically, it means that getting gas in London, ON was pretty much impossible for most of the late afternoon and early evening. However, around 9pm or so, some parts of the city were back up and running. One local gas station called into the radio station to announce that they were back online and that any cars nearby that were low on gas (because of traffic problems, or want to fill up for the weekend trip) could come by. The DJ thanked the caller and relayed the information. About 30 minutes later, the DJ gets a phone call from a motorist. It seems that the gas station in question IS open, but has jacked their prices up from 75c/litre (which was high to begin with) up to 95c/litre. (American equivalent, in $US: from $2.05/gallon to $2.59/gallon) This morning, the same radio station was relaying the information that 90% of the gas stations were back in business, and that he just wanted to remind everyone that last night gas station "X" was the one that gouged the consumer. So any profit this guy might have made from his 2 or 3 hour head start is probably going to go up in smoke when word gets around that he tried to gouge everyone. One last thing: My favourite images from TV last night was watching some 20-something guy directing traffic in downtown Toronto (and doing a pretty good job by having advanced left turns and pedestrian crossing-only times). When the camera crew ran out onto the road to interview him in the middle of his "job", they asked if he had ever done this before. "No, but I've always wanted to give it a try."

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:53:08 -0800

Belleville Michigan (about 20 minutes from Detroit) just came up about 20 minutes ago. The city itself is apparently looking at Sunday or Monday by the last report.

By: marzenie99

marzenie99 — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:25:45 -0800

Belleville.. whoa, my in-laws live there. Thanks for the info, PinkStainlessTail.

By: bobo123

bobo123 — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:31:33 -0800

So there was little to no crime in NYC and massive looting in CANADA? Well CNN is saying NYC had less crime than usual, same with Toronto, the only reports of looting I've heard have been out of Ottawa (!?). Strange indeed.

By: mathis23

mathis23 — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:04 -0800

Thank you for your post, lisag. It was a heartwarmer =) (yes, I just made an actual smiley face emoticon, but her post was worth it)

By: beth

beth — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:25:43 -0800

To retaliate against that hated Thor, we should rename his day, Thursday, to Freedomday.

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:27:41 -0800

Very nice, beth!

By: avocet

avocet — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:05:22 -0800

I still have no power (Yorkville area of Toronto) - at an internet cafe whose power *just* happened to be coming up as I walked by. (hot as blazes here!)

By: divrsional

divrsional — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:06:56 -0800

The West Village is back online. (I know how worried you all were.)

By: samuelad

samuelad — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:07:03 -0800

Several weeks ago, I visited the Lake Erie islands, and on the boat trip back to mainland noticed the huge silhouette of a nuclear powerplant on the horizon. Once home I searched to see which plant was located there and realized it was the Davis-Besse reactor in Oak Harbor, OH. Davis-Besse was shut down in the spring of 2002 due to a crack that developed in the reactor vessel. It has yet to come back online, but was last re-evaluated as of Wednesday. I wondered how the power system dealt with the loss of capacity caused by the plant's hiatus. Since the portion of the power grid that follows Lake Erie now appears to be where the failure started, my guess is that there will be great pressure to bring Davis-Besse back online. However, I know nothing about power generation and transmission, and this could have nothing to do with the blackout whatsoever.

By: riffola

riffola — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:20:53 -0800

There was looting at 3 places in Brooklyn last night, but the cops made arrests. We (Flushing) were down for 14 hours. Our cable is still not back, but RoadRunner is.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:27:06 -0800

Ugh. Power just came on. Almost 24 hours without, to the minute. I'm in midtown Toronto. The most amazing thing though... last night, people were outside... doing things: walking dogs, talking on their front steps, playing frisbee/ball. I felt like I was back in the mid 1970s--the last time I can remember being part of a real live community. Yes, powerless for a day was a pain in the ass but it was also certainly one of the more interesting things to happen to the city in my lifetime.

By: Sinner

Sinner — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:30:41 -0800

Someone mentioned the self-made human stoplights in Toronto, above. I think this was one of the most interesting stories of the whole thing, partially, I guess, because I was one of them. I don't want to sound like I'm bragging... I was really just a follower - I had been walking from work on 14th St. and kept passing these young guys (one was a bike messenger, another a summer intern at Deutsche Bank) in their early twenties - at best - directing traffic at intersections. After walking about ten blocks and shaking a few of their hands, I remembered thinking post-9/11 how I wished I had gone down to ground zero and helped. So I decided to help and with two other guys, manned the intersection at 25th and 6th right after the intersection f (big street) 23rd and right before Herald Square (huge intersection where Macy's is). It was surprisingly hard (we really needed three people, one to guide the westbound traffic, another to stop the cars and another to stop the pedestrians at the crosswalk). For the first hour of the 2.5 I was out there, I don't think I saw one police car go by, although we cleared lanes for a few ambulances and fire trucks, and a lot of official black sedans with sirens. Even later, once police cars started speeding on through, mostly because rush hour wsa ending, no one in any of those cars seemed to think much of us directing traffic. In general, the cars were easy, actually, and very friendly. Virtually no honking and screaming (less than on a normal day), and lots of thumbs-ups and head nods and thank-yous. The pedestrians were not as easy. New Yorkers don't give much of a shit about actual traffic lights, let alone some jackass in a t-shirt. Still, it was some of the most rewarding work I think I've ever done (not mentally or financially - although the guys at the bodega offered us each a couple free waters). It just felt good to pitch in and I honestly think we made some small difference (and in concert with all the other people doing it, a pretty substantial (but still small overall) difference). Some other anecdotes: * I intentionally walked back home through Times Square - it was packed and not quite as surreal as I'd thought. There were news crews everywhere. It was strange to see everything darker than normal, and I kept reminding myself that this was something that may never happen again ... but it wasn't as much of a shock as I'd thought. Maybe it was because of the news crews that were generating light for their on-camera people. * The people in my (25-story) building ended up having a huge BBQ party on our shared patio, right up until the building's staff forced us to leave because the patio closes at 10. It turned into a building-wide "pub" crawl, with people going from apartment to apartment seeking booze and fun. * Stores mostly sold out - or are selling out - of flashlights by yesterday. One guy on the street tried to sell me a flashlight for $3, I offered him $2 but he couldn't make change and refused my one single with $.65 in change. Another guy, mid-forties with dredlocks, sold me a bigger one, complete with DINACELL crap batteries and two spare bulbs for $5: he tested it and promised he'd used his throught last night. * Street vendors were making a killing equipping women with comfortable shoes and bags for the walk home, and selling battles and junk neon/glow-in-the-dark jewelry and crystals that probably never sell one tenth as much: I bet this will be their best weekend in history. * I saw a young white couple arguing with an older Asian man who was trying to close his store for the day. They insisted he sell them a flashlight and he kept pointing at the sign and explaining that his store does dry-cleaning. * Water was mostly reasonably priced. Maybe a quarter or fifty cents extra. I haggled with one guy who tried to sell me a small water for $1.50, a liter for $2.50. He agreed to sell me a liter for $2 and then corrected me when I started to walk away with a smaller bottle. * Cell phones, as noted before, were useless (although they seemed to work for a few people here and there). I felt like a hero when I dragged a corded phone out of one of my huge boxes of packratted old electronics. Our phone service worked all through the night, and then died mid-morning, about two or three hours before the power came back on. * I saw stars from the window of my building. I think it was the first time that I've ever seen stars in NYC.

By: Sinner

Sinner — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:37:11 -0800

Spelling errors from above, corrected: ...Someone mentioned the self-made human stoplights in Toronto above. I think this was one of the most interesting stories of the whole thing, partially, I guess, because I was one of them... ... It was surprisingly hard (we really needed three people, one to guide the westbound traffic, another to stop the NORTHBOUND cars and another to stop the pedestrians at the crosswalk)... ...* Stores mostly sold out - or are now selling out - of flashlights by EARLY THIS MORNING. One guy on the street tried to sell me a flashlight for $3, I offered him $2 but he couldn't make change and refused my one single with $.65 in change. Another guy, mid-forties with dredlocks, sold me a bigger one, complete with DINACELL crap batteries and two spare bulbs for $5: he tested it and promised he'd used his through ast night... ... * Street vendors were making a killing equipping women with comfortable shoes and bags for the walk home, and selling BATTERIES and junk neon/glow-in-the-dark jewelry/crystals that probably never sell one tenth as much: I bet this will be their best weekend in history....

By: t r a c y

t r a c y — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:01:32 -0800

my power just came on after just over 24 hours with none whatsoever. gah. i miss my a/c so badly, i want to marry it and bear it's chilly children. the best thing - was seeing the stars so clearly, and mars sparkling in the sky like a cosmic ruby. the worst thing - having to lug several gallons of water up 23 flights of stairs to mother in law who never listened to us when we begged her not to move into a high rise. the funniest & scariest thing: brave male pedestrian helpfully directing traffic turns out to be a resident of a nearby home for the mentally challenged happily directing 3 flows of traffic into eachother...! luckily no one was hurt, yipes.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:24:13 -0800

The Tale of The Brits Who Swiped 800 Jobs From New York, Carted Off $90 Million, Then Tonight, Turned Off Our Lights

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:28:23 -0800

"They insisted he sell them a flashlight and he kept pointing at the sign and explaining that his store does dry-cleaning." That has to be a joke.

By: amberglow

amberglow — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:32:15 -0800

My building (on 10th ave in the 30s in manhattan) got power back exactly 24 hours after it went out, at 4pm-ish...unfortunately still no dsl, as there's a verizon problem (i'm on dialup now).. very eerie last night...incredibly dark, even with candles/flashlights...you never realize how much ambient light you're used to at night, just from streetlights and other buildings...and very hot...and reading by candlelight at night is awful--i dont know how they did it way back when...my water stayed on (i'm in a little building) so that helped with the heat... I've now survived my third blackout, although i was an infant for the 65 one, and 12 for the 77 one (which i remember as really fun, and an adventure, and not at all hot like this one) : > (oh, and my freezer really needed defrosting anyway) I think some people have some explaining to do--especially con edison and the people in charge of the northeastern grid... (and what tracy said abt marrying the air conditioner!)

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:40:15 -0800

Thanks for the link, homunculus.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:47:09 -0800

Oh, and Rush is already blaming environmentalist liberals. Just to be Fair and Balanced.

By: avocet

avocet — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:31:53 -0800

dunno if this has already been posted, but wow. satellite images of light coverage over the northeastern US before and after the blackout. via fark

By: Sinner

Sinner — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:40:58 -0800

"They insisted he sell them a flashlight and he kept pointing at the sign and explaining that his store does dry-cleaning." That has to be a joke. posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:28 PM PST on August 15 You would think so, but no. Somewhere on 8th Ave. in Chelsea, around 18th St. East side of the street. I walked by, saw the guy heard the conversation, slowed down a bit to hear it, and kept going. Laughing.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:43:21 -0800

Here's another good one, elwoodwiles: "In June of 2001, Bush opposed and the congressional GOP voted down legislation to provide $350 million worth of loans to modernize the nation's power grid because of known weaknesses in reliability and capacity."

By: avocet

avocet — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:51:38 -0800

a toronto story: i spent the whole night alone. after i left work (with batteries in hand) i came home, attempted hi-speed photography via candlelight for a few hours, got bored, went outside by myself - the night skies were stunning, the police presence along bloor between avenue and bay (bling bling) was calming, but i was still too anxious by myself to stay out for long. i sat at bay and bloor, a very familiar intersection for me, with a fast-dripping candle in hand, faintly smiling at people walking by, hoping to see a familiar face in my neighbourhood. i made the mistake of almost draining what was left of my cell phone battery trying to get in touch with anyone that could spend the night with me. telus seemed to be the only canadian cell provider whose networks didn't seem to go down. i was frantically trying to get in touch with my boyfriend, but to no avail. the scariest thing for me (panic-attack-inducing) was waking to the sound of my apartment doorknob being jiggled and pulled at 3 am. my cell phone didn't have enough juice for one more call. i could have made it out the back door of my apartment and escaped had i wanted to, but by the time i fumbled around for my clothes the noises had stopped. it was a sleepless night for me, so i decided that at the crack of dawn i would find an open coffee shop. at 5:45 i left my house, finding my neighbour's keys in the front door, adding to my suspicions that someone did indeed attempt to break into my apartment. i live in a safe and relatively close-knit neighbourhood, too. six (relatively jittery) hours later, i spoke to my upstairs neighbours about the incident, apparently they were 'absolutely hammered' and despite the flashlight they were using, tried to enter their apartment through the WRONG DOOR, which led to a few minutes of fumbling with my lock until they realized they were at the wrong apartment. left their keys in the front door in the process. so i woke up and went to work, which surprisingly had power, even though i wasn't due there for over four hours. i had a bit of A/C, a newspaper, a place to charge my phone, and best of all, johnny cash :) and then i found out this morning there was a huge street party one block over. d'oh! love thy neighbour, because then you'll get invited to such events. i hope everyone is making the best of this difficult situation, and the rolling blackouts aren't hurting anyone tonight. i hope you're with people you're comfortable with, and the wine flows freely, and we all come out with some good stories..... cheers, sorry about the long post. (24.5 hours without power)

By: mdn

mdn — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:10:44 -0800

we just got power back in lower manhattan around 9 est. The whole neighborhood cheered...

By: The Michael The

The Michael The — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:43:28 -0800

Just to add my experience... I ended up walking back to Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn from midtown Manhattan, about 5 miles, and got back around 6:30. Everyone was upbeat, and there weren't any problems that I noticed, aside from my iPod crapping out. Civilians were directing traffic where cops weren't, and despite the traffic, things were moving pretty well. I pity the people that waited for a bus, though, considering they were moving much slower than the people walking and they were extremely packed, as noted above. The coolest part was that the lower deck of the Manhattan Bridge was closed to cars, so it was completely filled with pedestrians; ahead of me could see the bridge towers and an endless sea of heads. Several times, I saw many people helping anyone having trouble with walking. After I returned home, I went over to my favorite bar and, thanks to the miracles of iced kegs, had a cold draft Sierra Nevada, and swapped stories with others by candlelight. I met up with my next door neighbor and we went down to the waterfront to see the skyline, which was quite impressive, though not as dark I as expected (the Statue of Liberty was lit... does she get her power from Jersey, or an independent source?). Walking back to my apartment, I noticed that everyone was out having parties, whether on stoops, in bars, or in homes, and everyone was happy and convivial. I ended up sitting outside my building chatting with my neighbors (who I rarely talk to otherwise) until about 1 am before finally going to sleep, and I woke up about 15 minutes before power and cell phones were restored in my neighborhood. Today seemed similarly convivial, as everyone I encountered seemed to be in a good mood. Seeing as it brought out some of the best I've seen in New York, maybe we should do this more often.

By: alicesshoe

alicesshoe — Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:12:42 -0800

avocet! we probably just about bumped into each other then...I live in the same area [avenue rd, a block north of "dorkville"]! I had lights at 21:45! A friend living on queen and crawford [artspace building] said his power came on at 4 am. I joshed saying, well, you know, it's about my [posh] neighborhood, the lights came on sooner! Sorry you didn't get much sleep last night, neighbours trying to find their own appartment notwithstanding. Next time someone's shaking your doorknob, walk up to it quietly and start barking like crazy mad. IF it was some perp, they won't want any trouble from a big dog and try an easier mark. All kidding aside, I missed a street party a block away? Damn. I thought it was cool how many people were lighting the sidewalks with candles! Waaaay cool. Funniest site was a van, parked with it's front wheels on the curb, lights shining into a vegetable type variety store just in front of the vegetables and fruit stand on the street. I'd suggest the city should shut the power down once a week.

By: avocet

avocet — Sat, 16 Aug 2003 15:48:17 -0800

alicesshoe - the party was on admiral (between st. george & avenue) - they literally had wine and cheese. damn rich folk! after hearing all of my friends' stories of GET RID OF ALL MY FOOD! barbeques, and photo-taking adventures, i kinda wish i had another chance to make it better. related is this thread on the infiltration.org boards, of one guy's adventures in ottawa/gatineau during the blackout, with some absolutely STUNNING photography. real interesting.