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	<title>Comments on: College Rankings!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:58:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>College Rankings!</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://door.library.uiuc.edu/edx/rankings.htm"&gt;College Rankings!&lt;/a&gt; Seems like everyone&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;edition=us&amp;q=college+ranking&amp;btnG=Search+News&quot;&gt;talking&lt;/a&gt; about &apos;em.  There&apos;s the good ole &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/34027/&quot;&gt;controversial&lt;/a&gt; US News &amp;amp; World Report &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;edition=us&amp;q=college+ranking&amp;btnG=Search+News&quot;&gt;rankings&lt;/a&gt;,  but thanks to the the librarians at UIUC, this wonderful &lt;a href=&quot;http://door.library.uiuc.edu/edx/rankgen.htm&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; has links to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/37/ma_99_01.html&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newmobility.com/review_article.cfm?id=122&amp;action=browse&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jbhe.com/features/36_leading_universities.html&quot;&gt;many&lt;/a&gt; different rankings, including ones that let you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phds.org/rankings/&quot;&gt;make your own&lt;/a&gt; rankings.  There&apos;s also rankings of some of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gottshall.com/squirrels/campsq.htm&quot;&gt;more important&lt;/a&gt; non-academic features of colleges, too.

Does college rank really matter?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:54:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jos Bleau</dc:creator>		<category>college</category>		<category>colleges</category>		<category>universities</category>		<category>rankings</category>		<category>usnews</category>		<category>uiuc</category>		<category>librarians</category>		<category>academics</category>		<category>liberalarts</category>		<category>rank</category>
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		<title>By: howa2396</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542213</link>	
		<description>the only college rankings that matter, are the ones that have to do with sports.   Here comes football season!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:58:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ejoey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542223</link>	
		<description>Are you ready, for some football?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:17:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: graventy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542228</link>	
		<description>I know that all my rowdy friends are coming over tonight.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:35:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542229</link>	
		<description>My alma mater &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reed.edu/&quot;&gt;Reed&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.reed.edu/community/newsandpub/nov1997/news/3.html&quot;&gt;refuses&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.reed.edu/community/newsandpub/Nov2000/b_news/8.html&quot;&gt;participate&lt;/a&gt; in these rankings because they&apos;re such a skewed view of the value of a college education. I&apos;m proud of them for that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:38:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542230</link>	
		<description>Well, I know last year Harvard wasn&apos;t ranked number 1, so they sued the magazine for 2.7 million dollars.

Or something like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:40:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542267</link>	
		<description>My school keeps slipping in the U.S. News and World Report rankings, despite our president&apos;s effort to overhaul the unique aspects of our college life and homogenize things to make us more like an Ivy League school.  As far as those of us who have tried to figure it out can tell, we keep slipping in the &quot;Undergraduate&quot; rankings because we don&apos;t have a med school or a law school, and we don&apos;t pay our professors as much as some other top universities.  None of which really have an impact on UG education, which I guess is another way of saying that to some extent the rankings are bullshit.  (Not entirely, but somewhat.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:56:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twiggy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542282</link>	
		<description>wow, UIUC is my alma mater and they didn&apos;t make the USN&amp;amp;WR this year... they&apos;ve really gone down the pooper since I graduated... state budget cuts etc...

I don&apos;t know how much college rank matters, but I can say that at least with UIUC, it has correctly dropped lower and lower because budget cuts etc have really screwed it over...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:56:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542285</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;wow, UIUC is my alma mater and they didn&apos;t make the USN&amp;amp;WR this year...they&apos;ve really gone down the pooper since I graduated... state budget cuts etc...
&lt;/em&gt;


Whaaat? We&apos;re &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php&quot;&gt;#40&lt;/a&gt;. We were around there last year also.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:19:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: emptyage</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542286</link>	
		<description>I started out at a top-25 US News school. I went for two years and dropped out. Then I went to a big state school, where I got a much better education. College is what you make of it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:24:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eamon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542306</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;We&lt;/i&gt;? Where do you go to school again, gyc?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:51:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: croutonsupafreak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542338</link>	
		<description>I didn&apos;t even know about the US news rankings until after I&apos;d enrolled in college. That fall a press release was dropped in all the student&apos;s mailboxes telling us Grinnell College was #12 on the liberal arts college listing. &quot;Crap, I go to a good school, who knew?&quot; I thought.

Ever since then I&apos;ve been obsessed with the school&apos;s status -- which has waivered between 11 and 16 in recent years. I just want it to break the top 10 dammit. 

Interesting to see that Grinnell isn&apos;t even on the uius listing, even though I&apos;m sure it&apos;s more academically rigorous than some of the schools that are. Then again, that list seems to have a heavy focus on large universities.

Pretty arbitrary, though. I agree with emptyage that college is what you make it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:56:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ph00dz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542348</link>	
		<description>The only ranking that matters is Playboy&apos;s Party School Ranking... go ASU!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:12:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: howa2396</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542350</link>	
		<description>ejoey, thanks for taking a shot of my comma use.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:13:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: howa2396</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542351</link>	
		<description>err...  thanks for taking a shot at my comma use?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:14:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542355</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;We? Where do you go to school again, gyc?&lt;/em&gt;

Oh come on Eamon, I&apos;ll always consider myself an Illini. Now, don&apos;t you have a Britney Spears concert to go to?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 17:24:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542373</link>	
		<description>Go Tigers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:18:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: turbodog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542553</link>	
		<description>Geaux Tigers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:49:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542613</link>	
		<description>In Canada &lt;i&gt;Maclean&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; magazine does a issue every year in which they rate the universities and declare a number one. It doesn&apos;t seem like useful information to me. If I were looking at schools I&apos;d choose the one with the best version of the program I wanted and that was possible for me location and cost-wise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:07:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Down10</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#542730</link>	
		<description>My alma matter, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfsu.edu/&quot; title=&quot;San Francisco State University&quot;&gt;San Francisco State University&lt;/a&gt;, has ranked &lt;b&gt;#1&lt;/b&gt; under the category for &lt;i&gt;Most Debt: Universities&#8211;Master&apos;s (West)&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;b&gt;School:&lt;/b&gt; San Francisco State University
&lt;b&gt;% of grads with debt:&lt;/b&gt; 39%
&lt;b&gt;Average amount of debt:&lt;/b&gt; $31,491

WE RULE! ...Spare change, mister?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:39:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27830/College-Rankings#544955</link>	
		<description>I was somewhat shocked when I started my first (real, post-college) job, and the first person I met was OBSESSED with these college rankings.  She asked me where I went to school (common question, as there were a fair number of entry-level folks around), and then immediately asked &quot;What number is it?&quot;  I didn&apos;t know what she was talking about, and when she explained, I had no idea.  She was utterly taken aback that someone wouldn&apos;t know the exact ranking of their college on the USNWR scale.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:24:29 -0800</pubDate>
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