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September 16, 2003 12:51 PM   Subscribe

Testosterone accelerates heart disease in men, according to a new Australian study. So is this something unavoidable, or would it help to reject Mark McGwire's favorite performance-enhancer, or avoid all anabolic steroids, or quit rooting so loud for sports teams, or stop getting into silly fights with each other?
posted by soyjoy (20 comments total)

 
One more question: Do you think they'll change the name of this issue of "Testosterone Magazine?"
posted by soyjoy at 12:52 PM on September 16, 2003




**hits everyone in sight with club**
**pisses around web site**
**throws female over shoulder**
**stomps of scratching ass**
posted by jonmc at 1:08 PM on September 16, 2003


Testosterone is not a simple issue. Women also produce it, and if levels are too low, can benefit from supplementation. (My wife takes it, and the initial reviews are favorable.)
posted by Danf at 1:14 PM on September 16, 2003


Danf, you'll note that the article says testosterone doesn't have the same affect on heart disease in women. Oh, and jonmc, you may be happy to know that I had a disclaimer naming you personally in my original draft, but I decided it was wordy enough already.
posted by soyjoy at 1:18 PM on September 16, 2003


Soyjoy, I am just trying to provide more information here and did not intend to debate any of what you said or posted. The female stuff. . I just learned about lately and I think it is interesting.
posted by Danf at 1:24 PM on September 16, 2003


Danf, I wasn't trying to debate you either - sorry, if it came across as combative... to your wussy ears, you worthless piece of garbage! Come on!!!! OUTSIDE! NOW!!!!
posted by soyjoy at 1:29 PM on September 16, 2003


Let me take my apron off first. . . then you'll get it!
posted by Danf at 1:32 PM on September 16, 2003


[marlon perkins]

Note the slavering jaws and keen vision of our subjects as they spring into battle and the hormones kick in. Tune in for more on tonight's ...Mutual Of Haughey's MeFi Kingdom.

[/marlon]
posted by jonmc at 1:57 PM on September 16, 2003


Well, dang, I should be in good shape then.
posted by waldo at 2:14 PM on September 16, 2003


Women also produce it, and if levels are too low, can benefit from supplementation.

Danf, you'll note that the article says testosterone doesn't have the same affect on heart disease in women.


the above comments made me think about the rising use of body building stimulants in wide use today. Can this trend also be part of the root cause to the increasing accelerated heart disease in men? ask, as what has changed today from the past to cause the increase? Notice the bald look is in style with body builders too.
posted by thomcatspike at 2:17 PM on September 16, 2003


I've just accepted the fact that I'll die young. Of course, I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised...
posted by revbrian at 2:26 PM on September 16, 2003


Well, there are treatments for this problem, but they don't seem to be very popular.
posted by groundhog at 5:39 PM on September 16, 2003


groundhog - it's far more pleasant to simply eat lots of tofu. Male Buddhist monks have, for centuries, been advised to eat soy products to curb the passions.
posted by troutfishing at 6:14 PM on September 16, 2003


Testosterone has also been implicated, in some hominid species, with an inability to learn! [why use your brain to solve problems when you can just bash through them?]
posted by troutfishing at 6:19 PM on September 16, 2003


I eat lots of tofu and it has not done much passioncurbing, from what I can tell. . .although I DID pass up a chance to punch out soyjoy up there. . .so maybe SOME passions are curbed. . .
posted by Danf at 10:50 PM on September 16, 2003


Yeah, I eat a lot of tofu too, maybe that's why I forgot I was gonna clean Danf's clock a while ago - you know - the whole brain shrinkage thing - and as with Danf, it doesn't seem to get the passioncurbing job done... but seriously now, does anybody know - does it make any sense to try to lessen the amount of testosterone produced, or is the prediliction toward heart disease simply something that's built-in and there's no point in trying to do anything about it one way or the other?
posted by soyjoy at 11:03 PM on September 16, 2003


soyjoy: takes a swing at danf
danf: easily ducks from your swing, noticing your brastrap slip as your arm lashes out
soyjoy: blushes, pushing the strap back up, feeling embarassed
danf: notices the limpid suddenly vulnerable look in your eyes, softly smiles
soyjoy: trying to harden from your sudden charm .. finding it difficult to do to
danf: takes your hand, leads you to another room
soyjoy: where are you going?
danf: I have some fresh tofu in the fridge
posted by Danf at 11:06 AM on September 17, 2003


G'night, everybody, and drive safely!
posted by soyjoy at 12:41 PM on September 17, 2003


Well, tofu may have a lot to offer. But you gotta admit, it takes some balls to get castrated.
posted by groundhog at 6:11 PM on September 17, 2003


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