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	<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:51:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Here we go again.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;cid=856&amp;ncid=856&amp;e=3&amp;u=/nm/20030925/od_uk_nm/oukoe_france_queenmary"&gt;Biggest cruise ship ever, the Queen Mary II, launches.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;Thousands watched as the giant 500 million pound cruise liner, which stretches the length of four football fields, left Saint Nazaire in western France on Thursday for a three-day test run. &quot;We will push it to its maximum power to check that it can achieve 30 knots,&quot; said a spokesman for Alstom-Marine. &quot;After that, we&apos;ll stop it brutally, and we will go in zigzags to check its stability.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Thousands, and not one thought to take a picture.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:46:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Poagao</dc:creator>		<category>cruiseship</category>		<category>queenmary</category>		<category>launch</category>
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		<title>By: pmurray63</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559035</link>	
		<description>What are &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=news_photos&amp;p=Queen+Mary&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt;, chopped liver?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:51:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aramaic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559036</link>	
		<description>I confess: I&apos;m hoping the ship breaks apart spectacularly during those zigzag runs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:51:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559039</link>	
		<description>I hope they have enough lifeboats on board and stay clear of any and all icebergs. 

Why this preoccupation with size? Do people want to forget that they are at sea?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Poagao</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559042</link>	
		<description>Whoops, I missed the pictures. 

And, by some strange coincidence, a huge piece of ice &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/nm/20030922/sc_nm/environment_arctic_dc_1&quot;&gt;broke off&lt;/a&gt; from the Arctic shelf....hmmm.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:02:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559046</link>	
		<description>thousands of seals and sea lions and not one thought to take a picture.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:09:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: samuelad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559047</link>	
		<description>Unsinkable, I say.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:15:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559057</link>	
		<description>To my landlubber eyes, this is not an attractive ship.

I&apos;m just sayin&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:26:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notsnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559060</link>	
		<description>Is it just me, or is that ship just plain *ugly*?  In the pursuit of size and capacity, it seems like architecture - functional beauty - was cast aside.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:28:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keswick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559065</link>	
		<description>Oh yeah, she&apos;s fugly. Especially compared to her &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=queen+mary&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Google+Search&quot;&gt;namesake&lt;/a&gt;.

&apos;course, she&apos;s a cruise ship. not an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncommonjourneys.com/pages/&quot;&gt;ocean liner&lt;/a&gt;; whadda expect?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:51:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: piper28</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559081</link>	
		<description>So, where do I sign up for the betting pool for how long before mass sickness breaks out on it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:47:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WolfDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559086</link>	
		<description>My best friend is installing the point of sales systems on this monster in about 6 weeks.  It&apos;s just the crew and his team.  I think that&apos;d be a little scary, such a big ship with so few people on it.

Also the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cunardline.com/CruiseItinerary.asp?cruiseid=2333&amp;LeftNav=Region&amp;Active=Trans&amp;Sub=Vdet&quot;&gt;QM2&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cunardline.com/CruiseItinerary.asp?cruiseid=2455&amp;LeftNav=Region&amp;Active=Trans&amp;Sub=Vdet&quot;&gt;QE2&lt;/a&gt; are sailing together from New York to Southampton starting April 25th.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pmurray63</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559088</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;My best friend is installing the point of sales systems on this monster in about 6 weeks. It&apos;s just the crew and his team. I think that&apos;d be a little scary, such a big ship with so few people on it.&lt;/em&gt;

Oooooh, sounds like a horror movie...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:10:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MiguelCardoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559098</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think that&apos;d be a little scary, such a big ship with so few people on it.&lt;/i&gt;

Scary, WolfDaddy?  Luxury, more like it!  It&apos;s the crowds that spoil cruises.  Ask your friend if he doesn&apos;t need a Portuguese interpreter to go with him and, you know, check the humidors and armchairs in the smoking lounge; the bar stock; the caviar etc,  to see if they&apos;re up to scratch.  I&apos;m prepared to waive my usual fee, seeing that he&apos;s your best friend and all.

&lt;small&gt;Talk about the ultimate MeFi get-together!&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:38:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wfrgms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559120</link>	
		<description>What the heck?  That thing looks like some sort of half-ass recovered oil tanker.  Shouldn&apos;t the &quot;largest cruise ship ever&quot; be some sort of shinning futuristic type deal?

Or perhaps this is the &quot;all you can eat&quot; type of cruise ship - a floating Mall of America, perhaps?  Bummer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:25:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twine42</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559151</link>	
		<description>Now compare this to P&amp;amp;O&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PandOCardsJPEGS/PandO_Princess_Officials/Oriana03.jpg&quot;&gt;Or&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PandOCardsJPEGS/PandO_Princess_Officials/Oriana01.jpg&quot;&gt;ia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PandOCardsJPEGS/PandO_Princess_Officials/Oriana2000_02.jpg&quot;&gt;na&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PandOCardsJPEGS/PandO_Princess_Officials/Oriana02.jpg&quot;&gt;..&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PandOCardsJPEGS/PandO_Princess_Officials/Oriana2001_01.jpg&quot;&gt;..&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:05:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ciderwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559163</link>	
		<description>I think everyone on MeFi should book themselves on for a cruise next february. Just imagine, the whole ship full of rants, trolls and welcoming of various overlords. Now that&apos;s my kinda cruise.

Well, that and penelope cruz.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 03:48:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MintSauce</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559175</link>	
		<description>I dozed my way through a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/S/speedmachines/oceanliners.html&quot;&gt;documentary&lt;/a&gt; on the Queen Mary&apos;s predecessor the other day. Seems she&apos;s always been a bit of an underdog.

Personally I think her old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carnegiemuseums.org/cmag/bk_issue/1996/sepoct/feat4b.jpg&quot;&gt;competitor&lt;/a&gt; leads in the style stakes too .... if she hadn&apos;t of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldshipny.com/normandie.jpg&quot;&gt;sunk&lt;/a&gt; in NYC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 04:50:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: a3matrix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559188</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;To my landlubber eyes, this is not an attractive ship&lt;/em&gt;

I agree moonbiter.  The hull has a nice look to it, but from the deck up, it is plain ugly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:28:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559198</link>	
		<description>Is it QMII as in Terminator 2 or is it QMII as in Queen Elizabeth II?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:54:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559228</link>	
		<description>A MeFi cruise. Now that would be interesting. Now, who would get drunk and embarrass himself or herself? Who&apos;d be &quot;visiting&quot; the most staterooms? Who&apos;d get thrown overboard (first)? Who&apos;d get just dunked in the swimming pool? Who&apos;d be making the smoothest moves on the dance floor? The possibilities are endless.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:52:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559343</link>	
		<description>orange - that&apos;s true, but unfortunately the answer to all of the questions so far is: Miguel.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:26:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559380</link>	
		<description>I just can&apos;t see Miguel getting thrown overboard. Smooth dance moves I can definitely see.

Oh, and more questions - who would start the most bar fights? Who would win the most bar fights? Who would cheat the most at shuffleboard without getting caught? Who&apos;d be found cuddling in one of the lifeboats? Who would be the nicest to the staff? Who would shortsheet who&apos;s bed? Who would do the best version of &quot;Dust in the Wind&quot; on Kareoke night? The most sought-after deck chair would be the one next to the chair belonging to whom?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:25:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28558/Here-we-go-again#559390</link>	
		<description>Who&apos;d have the best balance for the zigzags? Who&apos;d be the one getting seasick and hurling over the side of the boat?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:36:37 -0800</pubDate>
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