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	<title>Comments on: Ursula K. Le Guin</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:10:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Ursula K. Le Guin</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ursulakleguin.com/OtherWind_X02.html&quot; title=&quot;Excerpt 2 from The Other Wind&quot;&gt;The King and Tehanu go to meet dragons&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Harcourt/map_sm.jpg&quot;&gt;A map of Earthsea&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Harcourt/map_lg.jpg&quot;&gt;A very large map of Earthsea&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://hem1.passagen.se/peson42/lgw/hain.html&quot; title=&quot;A dictionary of words and concepts from Ursula K Le Guin&apos;s SF stories set in the Hainish Universe.&quot;&gt;The Hainish Encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ocelotfactory.com/leguin/&quot; title=&quot;the home page for The Ekumen online community&quot;&gt;The Ekumen&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.praxagora.com/andyo/parody/leguin.html&quot; title=&quot;Parody, homage and literary discussion&quot;&gt;The Disconnected&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://hem.passagen.se/peson42/lgw/index.html&quot; title=&quot;Welcome to Le Guin&apos;s World, a site dedicated to author Ursula Le Guin and her works--Be ye warned:here there be opo ups...&quot;&gt;Le Guin&apos;s World&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ursulakleguin.com/UKL_info.html&quot; title=&quot;What she said.&quot;&gt;Ursula K Le Guin&apos;s Official Website&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>y2karl</dc:creator>		<category>LeGuin</category>		<category>Earthsea</category>		<category>Hainish</category>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562744</link>	
		<description>No....&lt;big&gt;NO!&lt;/big&gt;....I beg of you, on the sacred runes, on the Dragon&apos;s Teeth.....No EarthSea lunchboxes and other marketing paraphernalia! &lt;i&gt;&quot;.....this was merely a passing shadow of dark foreboding. For the moment, Ged&apos;s future seemed bright and clear as the sunlight refracted through the waves which bore LookFar miraculously aloft. That night, however, his dreams were troubled by dark merchandising schemes..... &quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562747</link>	
		<description>Interesting.  She&apos;s also involved with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org&quot;&gt;Poets Against the War&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Even to the dreadful now of news
we listened comforted
by far timezones, languages we didn&apos;t speak,
the wide, forgetful oceans.

Today, no comfort but the jewel courage.
The war is ours, now, here, it is our republic
facing its own betraying terror.
And how we tell the story is forever after.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;small&gt;::&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1936#453056377&quot;&gt;complete poem&lt;/a&gt;::&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:20:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: plep</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562760</link>	
		<description>Her politics are basically anarcha-feminist. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sff.net/people/victoriastrauss/ReviewDispossessed.html&quot;&gt;&apos;The Dispossessed&apos;&lt;/a&gt; is perhaps her most interesting work, from a political point of view.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:35:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lazaruslong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562770</link>	
		<description>I think that her Earthsea series was good in that it was a great bildungsroman-esque development of one badass character, mixed with an original take on some of the fantasy cliches. That said, I also own her The Left Hand of Darkness, as well as Four Ways to Forgiveness (4 of these semi-connected short stories) and was not impressed, really. 

Earthsea rocks though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:07:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562778</link>	
		<description>Four words: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/23764#441393&quot;&gt;&quot;The Lathe of Heaven&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. The original &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/1885&quot;&gt;PBS TV-movie&lt;/a&gt; introduced me to her works; I dove into the book to help figure out the fuzzier parts of the movie and just fell in love. (I remember that was also the summer I gave up on Heinlein, sorry lazaruslong.)
One of my biggest life regrets is not reading more LeGuin, and now, y2karl, you give me all this good on-line material? Aaargh!! (Maybe if I dream real hard, I can change that...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:39:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pericles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562792</link>	
		<description>You can&apos;t beat &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crosswinds.net/~marlerjc/omelas.html&quot;&gt;&quot;The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas&quot;&lt;/a&gt; for a very short story (beware pop-ups). I read it years ago, and it still has resonance today. When i re-read it a month ago, I couldn&apos;t help but think of Omelas as the current U.S.A., with the child in the cellar as the people incarcerated in Guantanemo Bay.

A great story does that; stays with you and morphs and adapts itself to different times and events.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 03:03:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562795</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the link Pericles.

I&apos;m surprised that there isn&apos;t more discussion of Daoism on the le Guin sites. This is the backbone of the earthsea series, and the main reason for me that I can still re-read these books that I fell in love with as a child and get something new out of them. I don&apos;t think I can say the same thing about any other book.

My only criticism of le Guin&apos;s later work is that it becomes increasingly difficult to emphasise with her characters. They become ideas rather than people.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:03:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562796</link>	
		<description>empathise doh</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:06:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JollyWanker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562813</link>	
		<description>Those familiar with English translations of the &lt;i&gt;Tao Te Ching&lt;/i&gt; will find &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1570623953/ref=lpr_g_2/104-8727307-5358310?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot; title=&quot;The paperback edition at Amazon.com&quot;&gt;LeGuin&apos;s thoughtful rendering&lt;/a&gt; will I think be pleasantly surprised by LeGuin&apos;s accessible style. Even better - to my taste - is &lt;a href=&quot;http://shop.store.yahoo.com/soundstruestore/az00033.html&quot;&gt;the audiobook version&lt;/a&gt; read by the translator herself.

&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;(arha: I&apos;m pleased to discover another reader of the &lt;u&gt;Earthsea&lt;/u&gt; cycle that recognizes LeGuin&apos;s affinity for Lao Tzu and its effect on at least her earlier work...)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:37:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evening</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562814</link>	
		<description>I love Le Guin&apos;s scifi (not into fantasy, read first Earthsea and don&apos;t care to read on).  Her stuff is original and well written and I love falling into her worlds.  

She&apos;s what I call &quot;social&quot; scifi (stories are always about culture and society), so anyone not into &quot;hard&quot; scifi may want to give it a try.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:37:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562818</link>	
		<description>LeG also writes mainstream stuff. She wrote the cleverest take on the &lt;i&gt;New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;-format coming-to-understand story I&apos;ve read, &quot;Two Stops on the Northern Line.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:50:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562847</link>	
		<description>Speaking of Earthsea, does anyone know definitively how to pronounce the name &quot;Ged&quot;?  One could say that it&apos;s pronounced with a hard G, because otherwise it would be spelled &quot;Jed&quot; (which would have very different associations!).  But the general rule in English is that a G is soft if it is followed by a soft E (e.g. general).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:17:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562880</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can&apos;t beat &quot;The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas&quot; for a very short story (beware pop-ups)&lt;/i&gt;

Except that nobody actually shows why the kid needs to be in the basement.  Which is to say, it&apos;s so far into the land of didactic fables that any point it makes is reduced to inanity.

And there should be a sequel -- &quot;The Ones Who Come Back To Omelas At The Head Of A Tank Column.&quot;

and Terry Bisson&apos;s &quot;Meat&quot; is a better very short story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:33:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pericles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562911</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d be fascinated to read the sequal, should you write it, &lt;b&gt;ROU_Xenophobe&lt;/b&gt;. The kid needs to be in the basement like people need to be kept on the cuban island, to ensure the &apos;security&apos; and &apos;freedom&apos; of the society that keeps them there. The similarities are that U.S. security, human rights and freedoms seem, at the moment, to be predicated on denying freedom and human rights of others (no habeas corpus, secret military tribunuals etc in Guantanemo Bay), shoot to kill in Iraq etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:25:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562947</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the general rule in English is that a G is soft if it is followed by a soft E (e.g. general).&lt;/i&gt;

Get a gecko, you geek, before you turn into a geezer!

(I have no idea, by the way, what you mean by a &quot;soft E.&quot;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:49:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: widdershins</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#562958</link>	
		<description>Ah, languagehat, I knew you&apos;d come through.  I always pronounced Ged w/a hard G, myself.  Love the Earthsea series and most of her work.  

OK, quite off-topic, but has anyone here read Woman on the Edge of Time by Marge Piercy?  In my mind there are similarities between LeGuin and Piercy, though Piercy is not Sci-Fi or Fantasy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:58:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lazaruslong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#563077</link>	
		<description>The Lathe of Heaven rocks.

Heinlein reigns supreme over all.

Unicorns kick ass.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:32:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: azazello</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28713/Ursula-K-Le-Guin#563346</link>	
		<description>Ursula 0wnz j00.

Thanks for the post. LeGuin gets more praise from me than I can fit here, and I was really unlucky to miss her Tehanu reading event in Berkeley this summer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:12:08 -0800</pubDate>
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