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	<title>Comments on: President John Hanson</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:42:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>President John Hanson</title>
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		<description>America&apos;s first president was not George Washington, but in fact its third: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnhanson.net/&quot;&gt;John Hanson&lt;/a&gt;. (Scroll down to &quot;Who Was the First President of the United States?&quot;) &lt;small&gt;[via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060014016/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Greatest Stories Never Told&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PenDevil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563400</link>	
		<description>I thought he was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/21471&quot;&gt;ninth&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<title>By: bradth27</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563402</link>	
		<description>No.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:55:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ElvisJesus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563405</link>	
		<description>...and the last &lt;em&gt;elected &lt;/em&gt;President was not George Bush</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:06:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clavdivs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563408</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gw1.html&quot;&gt;On April 30, 1789, George Washington, standing on the balcony of Federal Hall on Wall Street in New York, took his oath of office as the first President of the United States. &quot;As the first of every thing, in our situation will serve to establish a Precedent,&quot; he wrote James Madison, &quot;it is devoutly wished on my part, that these precedents may be fixed on true principles.&quot; &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:19:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563411</link>	
		<description>Maybe I&apos;m wrong...but doesn&apos;t the linked article say that Samuel Huntington was the 1st prez...?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:28:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcsweetie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563418</link>	
		<description>ding!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:47:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: emelenjr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563423</link>	
		<description>Who was the first US president to publish a book of poems? That would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812924347/qid=1065286225/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-5352739-1417651?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt;Jimmy Carter&lt;/a&gt;.

Can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/03/bush.poem.ap/index.html&quot;&gt;Bush&lt;/a&gt; be far behind?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:54:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcsweetie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563433</link>	
		<description>wasn&apos;t Jimmy Carter also the first to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cohenufo.org/Carter/carter_abvtopsec.htm&quot;&gt;see a UFO?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:14:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aladfar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563440</link>	
		<description>Washington was the first President under the constitution of the United States. While there were previous &apos;Presidents&apos; under the abandoned Articles of Confederation, their powers were limited - they weren&apos;t at all like those who held office after them.

So while Washington was not the first &apos;leader&apos; of the United States, he was absolutely its first President.

To use a sports analogy (and this is a bit of a stretch), the Chicago Bears won their first Super Bowl in 1986 - this despite the fact that they won the NFL championship in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0104357.html&quot;&gt;1932&lt;/a&gt;. Football wasn&apos;t organized around the Super Bowl until 1967.

And so the first Super Bowl champions were the Green Bay Packers, even though there were several NFL champions prior to them. 

But the Super Bowl is what defines modern football. Thus the Packers are memorialized, while the Akron Pros are lost in the same obscurity that claimed Samuel Huntington and John Hanson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 10:22:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goddam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563475</link>	
		<description>Norton I, first &lt;a href=http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/norton.html&gt;Emperor &lt;/a&gt;of the United States.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:51:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anser</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563703</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; America&apos;s first president was not George Washington, but in fact its third.&lt;/i&gt;

Another dandy on IncomprehensiFilter...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 05:35:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563764</link>	
		<description>Yeah, that&apos;s the worst sentence I&apos;ve seen on the front page in a long time.

A better sports analogy would be the first professional baseball league, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/A/Association_National.stm&quot; title=&quot;The National Association of Professional Base Ball Players, 1871-75 &quot;&gt;National&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makojo.com/natlassn.html&quot; title=&quot;The National Association allowed any team willing to pay the $10 entry fee to join the league. Unfortunately, teams that were weak both financially and on the field were a constant part of the Association. Teams with little hope of winning the pennant often declined to make costly road trips. Many teams failed to complete the expected number of games and franchises failed at an alarming rate.&quot;&gt;Association&lt;/a&gt;.  It was so disorganized (teams kept dropping in and out) that &lt;a href=&quot;http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/INCORP/baseball/hulbert.html&quot; title=&quot;Hulbert was a pitiless coal baron, determined not only to have the best team, but the most profitable one as well. His corporate perspective placed professional baseball within a greater network of enterprise -- aligned with transit interests, hotels, grounds firms, and sporting goods suppliers.&quot;&gt;William Hulbert&lt;/a&gt; created the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/N/National_League.stm&quot;&gt;National League&lt;/a&gt; in 1876, with much stricter regulations (and, not incidentally, much more stringent controls over the players, who became the chattel they remained until the 1970s).  Of course, Hulbert had also stolen the best players from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NA_1875.shtml&quot; title=&quot;15 games ahead of the second-place Philadelphia Athletics&quot;&gt;champion&lt;/a&gt; Boston Red Stockings for his own Chicago White Stockings and wanted to avoid penalties... but that&apos;s another story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563778</link>	
		<description>well, that sentence had me trying to figure out if John Hanson was some kind of pseudonym for Thomas Jefferson, and imagining that some kind of technicality meant that the first two presidents weren&apos;t recognizable (sworn in/ resided at the wrong location, eg) - but having read the link, mcsweetie was actually being kind of clever.  So.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:27:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcsweetie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563870</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;mcsweetie was actually being kind of clever. So.&lt;/i&gt;

in your &lt;b&gt;FACE&lt;/b&gt;, languagehat!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:15:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563902</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t care whether or not George was the first president, Did he cut down the &lt;a href=&quot;http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/documents/weems&quot;&gt;cherry tree&lt;/a&gt;? Or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mountvernon.org/books/myths.asp&quot;&gt;not&lt;/a&gt;? Ah mean who&apos;s to know whut&apos;s true anymore if people keep makin&apos; up shit? The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ariescomputer.com/illuminati/about/ill3.html&quot;&gt;Illuminati&lt;/a&gt; be damned! George Washington was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ycsi.net/users/reversespins/masons.html&quot;&gt;freemason&lt;/a&gt;, but they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fn0rd.org/archives/000083.php&quot;&gt;won&apos;t claim us&lt;/a&gt;. George Washington was of The Illuminati, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prophecies.org/DOCS/Book%202/illuminat.htm&quot;&gt;see the writing of the mountain&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a conspiracy ah tellz ya! The wheat grow with the tares! I---</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:11:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bliss322</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#563994</link>	
		<description>i was hoping someone would mention the illuminati

thank</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:32:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#564099</link>	
		<description>Hey, what happened to my comment from yesterday?  Did I hit Preview and then forget to hit Post?  As I (thought I) said:

mdn is absolutely right, I didn&apos;t read carefully enough, and I apologize abjectly to mcsweetie, who my berate me at will.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:22:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28741/President-John-Hanson#564359</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;May&lt;/strong&gt; berate me, even.  Sheesh.

&lt;small&gt;The first rule of the Illuminati is that we don&apos;t talk about the Illuminati.
*makes arcane hand gesture, bows in direction of Savoy*&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:20:31 -0800</pubDate>
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