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	<title>Comments on: Half century in an iron lung.</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 04:20:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Half century in an iron lung.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3182096.stm"&gt;Half century in an iron lung.&lt;/a&gt; Actually, its not really, but there&apos;s still plenty in this story to make you wince.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:00:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568269</link>	
		<description>Holy cow.  &quot;Wince&quot; is just the start of it.  Dunno how I would handle such a situation - let alone for 48 years.  Good on him, though, for keeping a relatively upbeat attitude, I suppose.  Damn.</description>
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		<title>By: TedW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568302</link>	
		<description>Interesting post.  I have actually taken care of a patient in an iron lung; they are still used more commonly than you think.  More common is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rccsnashville.com/ventilators.htm&quot;&gt;cuirass ventilator&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.tripod.com/~Nivusers/Equipic/Negvent.html&quot;&gt;(pic)&lt;/a&gt;, which is much less cumbersome.  Generally these devices are used only at night but the occasional patient requires full-time support.  Both the iron lung and cuirass (named after&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesteelsource.com/html/ah6071.htm&quot;&gt; this&lt;/a&gt;) are negative pressure ventilators, which are much more physiologic in function and much better tolerated by patients than positive pressure ventilators more commonly seen in ICUs.  More about iron lungs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/ironlungmuseum/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  More about mechanical ventilation in general &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_ventilation&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccmtutorials.com/rs/mv/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://seniors-site.com/ultimate/mechvent.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://um-jmh.org/HealthLibrary/Respiratory/Mech_Ventilation.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:29:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TedW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568313</link>	
		<description>Also, this guy could be treated with a tracheostomy and portable battery operated ventilator like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christopherreeve.org/index.cfm&quot;&gt;Christopher Reeve&lt;/a&gt;, but there are pros and cons to either approach.  I also wonder if cost is a factor, given that he is in Britain and sticking with the iron lung is definitely cheaper.  Most likely he is comfortable with this machine on which his life depends and doesn&apos;t want to change things.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:40:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biffa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568323</link>	
		<description>TedW: Thanks for putting far more work into this than I put into the FPP. Interesting stuff, you&apos;re quite possibly right about the NHS thing, and certainly there&apos;s plenty of evidence of them putting cost way ahead of patient comfort, but the article does seem to suggest  that the iron lung is now a good fallback instrument for him if things are going badly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:52:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TedW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568330</link>	
		<description>You&apos;re welcome, but it wasn&apos;t actually that much work, as I happen to be preparing a lecture on mechanical ventilation and have a lot of information handy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:07:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tommyspoon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568341</link>	
		<description>When I was first diagnosed with asthma, all those iron lung pictures really freaked me out. Cudos to the gentleman, though, he&apos;s faced his condition with consideralbe aplomb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:45:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568381</link>	
		<description>My husband contracted polio at age 7, the year before the Salk vaccine became generally available. He was made to sit in a scalding hot tub of water and force, even pushed on, to touch his toes and had to endure other forms of physical therapy that we would now find almost barbaric. I believe he spent some time in an iron lung as well, but not as long as the gentleman depicted. It&apos;s amazing what human beings will do to survive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:04:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lobakgo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568414</link>	
		<description>Iron lungs are also used in some cases for people with muscular distrophy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:48:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568417</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;More common is the cuirass ventilator (pic), which is much less cumbersome.&lt;/i&gt;

Ted, the article makes it sound like the cuirass is what he uses most of the time:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt; Modern technology has replaced this two-tonne monster with a chest-sized device shaped like a turtle-shell, and which does almost exactly the same thing, in the Hertfordshire home he shares with his wife Maggie.

However, this week, John has come down with a chest infection, and, since he cannot cough, must come into St Thomas&apos; to spend a few days in the full-sized version while nurses pummel his chest to loosen the phlegm. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:50:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TedW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/28931/Half-century-in-an-iron-lung#568783</link>	
		<description>Yes, I noticed that, but the headline emphasized the iron lung, so I replied based on that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:55:35 -0800</pubDate>
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