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	<title>Comments on: Between The Sheets: The Pleasures Of Paper</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:41:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Between The Sheets: The Pleasures Of Paper</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://members.vienna.at/difr/emain.html"&gt;A Fresh, Clean Sheet Of Paper:&lt;/a&gt; Is anything you can&apos;t make love to, eat or sip, more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlhart.com/paper/paper.htm&quot;&gt;sensual and inviting&lt;/a&gt;? In the &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/21507/&quot;&gt;age of the Internet&lt;/a&gt;, fine paper - specially if it&apos;s handmade - seems to become ever more precious. Writing or sketching on its slighly grainy texture, sliding ink along its invisible grooves (almost independently of the result...) is an extravagant indulgence; a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbbag.ca/Papermaking.html&quot;&gt;romantic gesture&lt;/a&gt;; an &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; guiltless pleasure. And something &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exploratorium.edu/exploring/paper/handmade.html&quot;&gt;you can do yourself&lt;/a&gt;, satisfying that deep recycling urge, perhaps.  A quick tour around some of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.vienna.at/difr/erzeug.html&quot;&gt;outstanding manufacturers&lt;/a&gt; and dealers - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cartierefabriano.it/uk/_prodotti.html&quot;&gt;Fabriano&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canson.fr/EN/index.php?auto=EspacePro&amp;PHPSESSID=452db48b2dff3f3ccd42da1a041aaca9&quot;&gt;Canson&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pineider.com/homeinglese.html&quot;&gt;Pineider&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://dcwi.com/~twinrock/pstocked.htm&quot;&gt;Twinrocker&lt;/a&gt;, for example - will silkily reassure those of us whose pens trembled and blotted with the first mentions of a paperless future. Will it ever come? Unlike so many things in life, the rarer it gets, the better and, paradoxically, the more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.littlebit.com/links/otherlink/paper_links.htm&quot;&gt;individual&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;nice set of paper links here&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/i&gt;) it becomes.
(&lt;small&gt;*imagines a complete multi-handwritten version of MetaFilter on good paper of all sizes and types and instantly snaps out of the daydream, as it reminds him too damn much of his attic*&lt;/small&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:11:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MiguelCardoso</dc:creator>		<category>Paper</category>		<category>Handmade</category>		<category>Fabriano</category>		<category>Canson</category>		<category>Pineider</category>		<category>Twinrocker</category>		<category>Paperless</category>
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		<title>By: misteraitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573662</link>	
		<description>Many thanks for these links, Miguel - I just got my own papermaking kit &amp;amp; am hoping to try it out over the weekend (the instructions in your 5th link are a lot clearer than the ones that came with the kit). I already know and love Fabriano paper &amp;amp; am looking forward to checking out the other manufacturers you mention.</description>
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		<title>By: namespan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573667</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is anything you can&apos;t make love to, eat or sip, more sensual and inviting?&lt;/i&gt;

A guitar. A piano. I suspect most folks feel this way about their musical instruments.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:31:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573670</link>	
		<description>&quot;Is anything you can&apos;t make love to, eat or sip, more sensual and inviting?&quot;

books?
plus, as namespan pointed out, most musicians feel that way about their instruments (and it&apos;s difficult to argue that a sheet of paper is cooler than a Steinway, btw. more portable, yes. cooler, I&apos;m not sure). 
it&apos;s hardly surprising that a (fetishism-prone) writer has a fetish about his writing instruments, then (ran out of ideas for fountain pen threads, huh?). but since you spend a lot of time with blank sheets of paper (when you&apos;re not posting fpp&apos;s here or checking out bifurcated rivets or eating out or mixing martinis) it&apos;s ok that you kind of fell in love with paper. 

to answer your question -- iPod? G5? Savile Row bespoke suits? Vintage Eberhard or Rolex watches? Vintage Levi&apos;s? Old grammophones? Original Jimi Hendrix vynil LP&apos;s?

there&apos;s lots of possibilities</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:01:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nofundy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573675</link>	
		<description>Since the first mentions of the &quot;paperless office&quot;  our consumption of paper has done nothing but increase, and significantly, so I fear such a possibility is nothing more than a dream.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:57:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tcaleb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573681</link>	
		<description>While we are throwing out non-paper related sensual-ness, for me it is old cameras.  Those solid, mechanical wonders of light capture make me giddy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:28:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tcaleb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573682</link>	
		<description>Not that good writing paper isn&apos;t cool too.  Close second.  Thanks Mig.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:29:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kalessin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573685</link>	
		<description>Fine handmade paper is also great for paper arts. I&apos;m an origamist, and I love using different kinds of art- and handmade-papers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:36:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grefo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573690</link>	
		<description>Rives BFK is very sensual. It&apos;s an almost orgasmic experience everytime I draw on it. 

Mmmm....

Thanks for the links!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:51:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573692</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; a paperless future. Will it ever come?

It is to be hoped not. There&apos;s a lot more you can do with paper than write (even at Proustian length - &lt;i&gt;C&apos;est fini, dit-il, et la plume tombe de sa main inanim&#233;e&lt;/i&gt;) on it. My mother was a commercial illustrator and my father an architect; both could work in pencil, ink, charcoal, watercolor, gouache, tempera, oils, etc. on paper and canvas of a variety of textures. I have used and built computers since the 8 bit generation of micros and in that time have seen some striking effects on the little screen (and the big one too, of course) but in general, and in my &lt;i&gt;humble&lt;/i&gt; opinion, computer art is to art as plastic fruit is to fruit. I have loved &lt;a href=&quot;http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/204400/204405/products/3218585.jpg&quot;&gt;this picture&lt;/a&gt; for years and years just based on printed and online reproductions. This past summer I at last got a chance to see the actual painting when it travelled from St. Petersberg to Atlanta. Seeing the real thing, compared to repros, is like meeting a live wolf in the forest compared to seeing a photo of one in &lt;i&gt;Ranger Rick&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:55:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573705</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crane.com&quot;&gt;Crane&apos;s Paper&lt;/a&gt;, the Massachusetts paper company that has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crane.com/specialtypapers/currency/&quot;&gt;the primary provider of paper for U.S. currency since 1879&lt;/a&gt;, has finally launched its own chain of retail outlets, one of which just opened in the mall we most usually frequent.

For pen-and-paper freaks like me and Migsy, it&apos;s a little piece of heaven.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:23:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rushmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573706</link>	
		<description>Won&apos;t anyone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hemp-union.karoo.net/main/info/paper/book1.htm&quot;&gt;think&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conservatree.com/learn/Enviro_Issues/TreeStats.shtml&quot;&gt;trees&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:23:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573715</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; Won&apos;t anyone think of the trees?

Oh, I think of &apos;em all the time. CRTs and LCDs for the masses, certainly. Paper just for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:29:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573717</link>	
		<description>I have blank paper from my grandfathers NY Lincoln car dealership from the 1940s. It is a treasure in part because of the letterhead, but in part because it is very good quality paper that 70 years later is just as nice. Simple, elegant memento.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:34:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573753</link>	
		<description>Miguel, now I don&apos;t even have to get through the first line to recognize your posts - let alone keep scrolling to see that it&apos;s 12 lines long...

That said, you&apos;ve hit one of my weaknesses here. I also have a fetish for clean white paper. I have an excuse, being a cartoonist, but it goes back to my childhood, drawing incessantly. One of my most cherished Christmas gifts (if not my most cherished) every year was a ream of new typing paper to draw on.

Nowadays, of course, plain typing paper doesn&apos;t quite do it for me - there&apos;s a certain kind of laser printer paper that the pen just glides over in such a smooth, sensual way, making such wonderfully free, arcing lines that swoop and... flow and...

&lt;small&gt;Excuse me. I have to go, uh, do something.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:18:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bonehead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573766</link>	
		<description>Trees for paper are essentially and agricultural product these days.  Not to put too much of a cheery light on things, but I think we&apos;re close to sustainable practices for softwood pulp now, at least in the temperate climes. Hardwoods, of course, are a complete disaster, especially in the tropics.

As sensual as a clean sheet of paper? My main tempters are tools: a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.estwing.com/newproducts.htm&quot; title=&quot;Zowie! Want!&quot;&gt;hammer&lt;/a&gt; , a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bicycletoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=859884371922&amp;d=single&amp;c=Tools&amp;sc=Hand%20Tools&amp;tc=Y-Wrenches&amp;item_id=CA-143/2&quot; title=&gt;wrench&lt;/a&gt; or a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.leevalley.com/gifts/page.asp?page=45509&amp;category=4,104,45477,45507&amp;ccurrency=3&amp;SID=&quot;&gt;knife&lt;/a&gt;   seduces the hand and fires the imagination.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:38:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousthought</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573778</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s nothing quite like a perfect sheet of acid-free premium vellum paper, the kind that both gladly accepts your line and provides &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; enough resistance, upon which the first word you write is &quot;Gretings!&quot;

This is why I stick to basic papers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:00:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mosch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573785</link>	
		<description>Amen, Matteo.  As much as I enjoy many of the finer things in life, my most prized possession is my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.steinway.com/steinway/catalogue/models.shtml&quot;&gt;Steinway Model B&lt;/a&gt;.

I have fine paper and pens, for those rare occasions that I wish to write an actual letter, but I can better express myself by sitting on my piano bench and playing a carefully chosen and studied piece of music on an instrument that allows every ounce of emotion to flow through it and be amplified by it.

The art of the letter is a dying one, and it&apos;s beautiful, but for personal, sensual communication, give me a fine piano and let me play.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:14:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573786</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is why I stick to basic papers.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I do, too. That&apos;s why I prefer the smoother, glossier... 

Oh wait. You meant that figuratively, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:16:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BirdD0g</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573787</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is anything you can&apos;t make love to, eat or sip, more sensual and inviting?&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;ve had to fend off the urge to put great paper in my mouth before. Sometimes it just seems good enough to eat. I always loved Somerset Satin w/ condensed charcoal for the insane contrast. And Yupo is some really strange stuff. How do they do that?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:21:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keswick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573867</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Is anything you can&apos;t make love to, eat or sip, more sensual and inviting?&lt;/em&gt;

My SUV? &lt;small&gt;[ducks]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:24:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573941</link>	
		<description>This will teach Miguel to begin an otherwise well-constructed post with a silly rhetorical question.

Wait, who am I kidding - of course it won&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:25:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573967</link>	
		<description>I have a paper making set up that I used to use to recycle most of my junk mail.  I haven&apos;t had time to do it lately...but I loved my handmade paper...it made notes to people so much more personal, and it made my to-do list seem a little more friendly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:04:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lobakgo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#573979</link>	
		<description>Mmmmm...paper.  Great links!  I collect paper, horde paper, fold paper, correspond on paper, weave paper, sew paper, cast paper, make paper, paint paper(not paintings), cut paper.  Wonderful things--watching my mother make embossings(not some rinky-dink scrapbook type thing, but large sheets of heavy, dampened paper laid over a big stone with an image she carved and coaxing the detail into the paper), the way rice paper takes brushes of ink, the way good paper sounds when it tears.  I&apos;ve maintained a 13 yr. correspondence in part so I could justify buying more paper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:18:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clavdivs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#574057</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southworth.com/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is my favorite label.
During world war II, the company redesigned their boxes to converse on material and put a note in the box to say so, which i though was rather courteous.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:14:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Orb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#574059</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m in the process of packing my life into boxes and moving, and the one thing I am finding more of than I could have imagined I would are pieces of paper that I kept just because of the paper. I have one large box that I am putting all these pieces on lovable paper into, and when it&apos;s full it will probably require a crane to move. I love paper. I love the feel of a good paper. I love writing or drawing on fine papers. I love recycling paper. For me the thought of a paperless world is almost terrifying.

&lt;em&gt;the way rice paper takes brushes of ink&lt;/em&gt;

The best find in the boxes I had in storage was my set of Japanese ink brushes and a large collection of gorgeous rice paper. It took all my will power not to sit down right then and there and play with it ... but then, I&apos;d never get moved if I stopped to play with every cool thing I have rediscovered during packing. :D</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:19:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skatz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#574117</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://mrfrench.com&quot;&gt;French Paper&lt;/a&gt; anyone? not quite hand made,  but some darn fine paper. fun website as well, do yourself a favor and read the history secton.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:39:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skatz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#574189</link>	
		<description>Fine paper is all well and...fine. Sometimes I wax nostalgic for a good old yellow legalpad, but only very briefly! My life is in better order thanks to the computer and less paper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:52:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Goofyy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: halonine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29142/Between-The-Sheets-The-Pleasures-Of-Paper#574199</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is why I stick to basic papers.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
I just bought two boxes of gorgeous, embossed Crane thank-you cards to use for business correspondence.  Painful experience has taught me to write my messages out on scratch paper before writing them on the good stuff!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:52:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>halonine</dc:creator>
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