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	<title>Comments on: Digital sand</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:03:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Digital sand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kdn.gr.jp/~shii/sand/index-en.html&quot; title=&quot;Left-click to build new structures; right click to create openings. Up-down sand be most lovely.&quot;&gt;Sand.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;small&gt;
(Java applet)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:53:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wet Spot</dc:creator>		<category>java</category>		<category>applet</category>		<category>sand</category>		<category>meditation</category>
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		<title>By: willnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574281</link>	
		<description>Cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:03:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>willnot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574283</link>	
		<description>very cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:13:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yevge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574285</link>	
		<description>very very cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:17:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yevge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: skyline</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574288</link>	
		<description>Extra cool.  Sad for me though, because I did &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lightcycle.org/workspace/pollen/index.php&quot;&gt;something similar to this&lt;/a&gt; that I thought was original.  Gives me some new ideas, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:27:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyline</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: LouReedsSon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574289</link>	
		<description>And pretty cool too!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:28:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LouReedsSon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: muckster</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574294</link>	
		<description>Flowing through the hourglass
pushing through the funnel
turn once more and racing 
all your siblings for the tunnel
slide like the silicone
embrace you as you fall
then bounce around 
and let your brothers
crush you to the wall
   --Phish, &lt;a href=www.gadiel.com/phish/lyrics/sand.html&quot; &quot;&gt;Sand&lt;/a&gt;

Yeah, cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:46:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>muckster</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: 2sheets</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574297</link>	
		<description>This is going to replace the water applet on my geocities home page.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:56:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>2sheets</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: trondant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574308</link>	
		<description>You downloaded &lt;em&gt;sand&lt;/em&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:10:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>trondant</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cedar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574309</link>	
		<description>&lt;img alt=&quot;torch.gif&quot; src=&quot;http://www.fultonchain.net/mt/archives/torch.gif&quot; width=&quot;65&quot; height=&quot;128&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;   C&apos;mon 2sheets, I love my lake applet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:12:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cedar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: whatnotever</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574313</link>	
		<description>Waaahhh...  Very cool.

Skyline, that&apos;s some nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lightcycle.org/workspace.php&quot;&gt;work&lt;/a&gt; beyond just the pollen, too.  And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proce55ing.net/&quot;&gt;Processing&lt;/a&gt; is very intriguing.  I should play around with that some day...

I think that &quot;nifty graphical toys&quot; (or whatever you may want to call them) are definitely the best justification for the existence of java applets.  Well, maybe non-graphics-geeks don&apos;t feel the same way...  but hey.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:49:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>whatnotever</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Nothing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574436</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s cool, but I have to note that the other day I downloaded a program that generates a million tree forest, renders it in 3d complete with wind that tosses the branches and blows the leaves, and lets me fly through it, and it used less proc time than this sand does.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:57:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nothing</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: whatnotever</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#574477</link>	
		<description>Nothing, I never claimed applets were efficient, of course.

And we need links, man.  I assume you&apos;re talking about IDV&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idvinc.com/html/huge_forest.htm&quot;&gt;Huge Forest&lt;/a&gt;,  though &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idvinc.com/html/the_valley.htm&quot;&gt;The Valley&lt;/a&gt; is apparently newer/bigger/better/etc.  (Their server really doesn&apos;t want to serve me those 10 MB files, though.  Oh wait, there it goes; 200KBps is good enough, I guess.)

I&apos;m not sure if you&apos;re just dismissive of the applets&apos; processor usage or also of their simplicity.  It seems so many people are obsessed with photorealism these days.  That&apos;s all well and good, but I feel that these other effects, simply pushing pixels instead of polygons, are just as important.  Several are more impressive to me, due to the inherent creativity of making something so cool out of such a simple effect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:19:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>whatnotever</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Nothing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29164/Digital-sand#589444</link>	
		<description>Oops, forgot about this thread. Sorry. Yes, that is the link I was talking about. 

Anyway, It&apos;s not a fair comparison because the huge forest thing uses the capabilities of my graphics card. I was just surprised that it took so much to simulate sand like that. As for the simplicity, I thought it was really cool. I&apos;ve been playing with it off and on for the past month. I totally agree about the scope of interesting/impressive  extending beyond just photo realism.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:32:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nothing</dc:creator>
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