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	<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:08:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Voyager at 90 AU</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/"&gt;Far, far away.&lt;/a&gt; Today, Voyager 1 will reach 90 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=1+au+in+light+seconds&quot;&gt;AU&lt;/a&gt; from the sun, around which distance it is expected to cross the &quot;termination shock,&quot; finally crossing into the fuzzy boundary between the &lt;a href=&quot;http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/heliosph.html&quot;&gt;heliosphere&lt;/a&gt; and true &lt;a href=&quot;http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html&quot;&gt;interstellar&lt;/a&gt; space. (Yes, it&apos;s taken &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.planetary.org/voyager25/timeline2.html&quot;&gt;that long&lt;/a&gt; to get there.)  Some even think that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994350&quot;&gt;the termination shock has already been reached&lt;/a&gt;, but then re-expanded past the spacecraft. Tears need not be shed yet for these distant explorers: &lt;a href=&quot;http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/spacecraftlife.html&quot;&gt;both Voyagers have juice&lt;/a&gt; till about 2020, and the mission remains &lt;a href=&quot;http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/Proposal-2003/VgrProposal.htm&quot;&gt;very much alive.&lt;/a&gt; (No word, however, on a possible &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/001/synopsis/81.html&quot;&gt;return to the Creator&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:04:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brownpau</dc:creator>		<category>space</category>		<category>jpl</category>		<category>nasa</category>		<category>voyager</category>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579813</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Aside: &lt;a href=&quot;http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/Proposal-2003/VgrProposal.htm&quot; title=&quot;lol lol&quot;&gt;Adobe GoLive... in... spaaa-aace!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:08:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DenOfSizer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579821</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kidkoala.com/index.htm&quot;&gt;Kid Koala &lt;/a&gt;needs a  copy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/images/VoyagerCover.jpg_2big.gif&quot;&gt;that gold record&lt;/a&gt;, man.  Great link, brownpau!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:14:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DenOfSizer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579822</link>	
		<description>I meant &quot;link&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;,&quot;  of course.  The whole durn fpp is very nice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:15:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579823</link>	
		<description>For people like me who don&apos;t know anything about &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/bsfgloss.htm#T&quot;&gt;Termination Shock&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:16:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579825</link>	
		<description>Remember kids, one AU is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;q=1+au+in+miles&quot;&gt;92,955,887.6 miles&lt;/a&gt; If your too lazy to do the math, the Voyager 1 is roughly 8366029884 miles away. There is no God after all!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:22:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579828</link>	
		<description>By the way, you can search the known universe with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shatters.net/celestia/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Celesta&lt;/strong&gt;, the three dimensional space simulation&lt;/a&gt;. 3D Card recommended.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:24:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579832</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;There is no God after all!&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Oh ye of little faith. There may be no old grey haired man on a throne in the clouds. We&apos;ve known that for some time. Didn&apos;t need V-ger for that one.  Oh. And Celesta rocks the hiz haus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:32:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579833</link>	
		<description>After we get past the moon, I start thinking in terms of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=1+light+second+in+miles&quot; title=&quot;By the way, KS, inserting the inflammatory phrase &apos;There is no God after all&apos; into my thread is a pretty churlish, low, non sequitur troll. I don&apos;t appreciate it.&quot;&gt;light seconds&lt;/a&gt; because the miles are just too incomprehensibly many.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:32:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WolfDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579834</link>	
		<description>V&apos;Ger REQUIRES the information!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:35:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579841</link>	
		<description>90 Astronomical Units = 12.4751304 light hours. That&apos;s purdy far!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:41:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muppetboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579849</link>	
		<description>really puts interstellar distances in perspective though... the closest stars being some light YEARS away, this probe we sent up has taken the better part of my lifetime to get only 0.5 light days away</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:49:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: metaxa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579856</link>	
		<description>[this is *very* good]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:56:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickmark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579863</link>	
		<description>Wait -- if &quot;termination shock&quot; means the point &quot;at which the solar wind is thought to slow to subsonic speed&quot; (from anathema&apos;s link), how slow is that exactly, given that there&apos;s no sound in space?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579893</link>	
		<description>Very subtle and clever &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/29400#579833&quot; title=&quot;But I think he meant it as a joke.&quot;&gt;call-out&lt;/a&gt;, brownpau.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:36:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579898</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;(Whatchootawkin&apos;bout, yhbc?;)&lt;/small&gt;
Oh, oh, one more thing I forgot to include in the post:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-solarsystem.html&quot;&gt;Voyager 1&apos;s family portrait of the solar system&lt;/a&gt;. Whoa.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:42:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579910</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;this probe we sent up has taken the better part of my lifetime to get only 0.5 light days away&lt;/i&gt;

Amazing. Completely mind boggling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:53:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Johnny Assay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579915</link>	
		<description>Nickmark:  this site on how to replicate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.space.irfu.se/course/rf1/helios.html&quot; title=&quot;Kind of. In spirit, at least.&quot;&gt;the heliosphere in your kitchen sink&lt;/a&gt; might help.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:58:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BentPenguin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579940</link>	
		<description>put into perspective:

- if the galaxy was 100 KM wide

-within 20 meters in any direction sun would be approximately 20 other stars

- the nearest star would be 3-4 meters away

 the probe would be 1.5 mm away.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:32:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579941</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;roughly 8366029884 miles away. There is no God after all! &lt;/em&gt; 
Don&apos;t recall &quot;8 turned side ways&quot; equaling 8366029884 miles. Plus it is still making its journey, go! go! Voyager 1.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 14:33:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickmark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579957</link>	
		<description>Johnny -- I was being flip, but that&apos;s actually very interesting, thanks.  I think I&apos;m gonna go turn on the tap and make a solar system!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:01:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crawl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#579989</link>	
		<description>Bentpenguin -- Are you CKW over on slashdot, or did you just copy &lt;a href=&quot;http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=84837&amp;cid=7400206&quot;&gt;his/her post&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:02:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kaemaril</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#580011</link>	
		<description>Return to the creator? Pah! Everybody knows that was Voyager 6. You know, NASA had better pull their finger out and build a few more, or we&apos;re gonna have one seriously messed-up space-time continuum pretty soon...

(No, not a Trekker, honest. No, &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:52:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#580128</link>	
		<description>[this is &lt;strike&gt;good&lt;/strike&gt; excellent]

&lt;i&gt;the probe would be 1.5 mm away.&lt;/i&gt;
My head hurts just thinking about this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#580143</link>	
		<description>What a pity the word &quot;awesome&quot; has been so overly used in recent times, for here are some things worthy of the word. The distance Voyager has traveled and the achievement of getting it there, and the relative closeness compared to interstellar distance. And yes, the post. AWESOME.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:57:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fezboy!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29400/Voyager-at-90-AU#580259</link>	
		<description>[this is tasty!]

Thanks for a well-constructed and interesting fpp!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2003 06:48:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fezboy!</dc:creator>
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