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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Day the Music Died</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnet.com&quot;&gt;Cnet &lt;/a&gt; has acquired &quot;certain assets&quot; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mp3.com&quot;&gt;Mp3.com&lt;/a&gt; (read story &lt;a href=&quot;http://msg.mp3.com/artistforums/liststory/?topic_id=164614&amp;month=200311&amp;category_id=3009&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Please be advised that on Tuesday, December 2, 2003 at 12:00 PM PST the MP3.com website will no longer be accessible in its current form. &lt;/em&gt; Also,&lt;em&gt; all content will be deleted from our servers and all previously submitted tapes, CD-ROMs and other media in our possession will be destroyed. We recommend that you make alternative content hosting arrangements as soon as practicable. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:17:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584425</link>	
		<description>As a longtime user (both for listening to new bands, and for promoting my &lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/437/james_leroy.html&quot;&gt;own&lt;/a&gt;), 
I am a little bit bummed out about this.  Essentially, they are tearing down the old to make way for the &quot;new,&quot; and a lot of bands who are no longer together will be washed away.  

Though there was a lot of crap on the site, I found more than a &lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/235/the_mico_band.html&quot;&gt;few&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/7/hellbender.html&quot;&gt;gems &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/71/the_browns.html&quot;&gt;in&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/38/kid_with_man_head.html&quot;&gt;my&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/422/favour.html&quot;&gt;day &lt;/a&gt;.  

It also went a long way in helping out bands in my local scene. 

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584429</link>	
		<description>Mp3.com has been in a long downhill decline for years.  In recent times, it&apos;s been difficult even &lt;i&gt;locating&lt;/i&gt; truly indie content on the site, and doing so involves battling through pages of ads, and some of the longest-load-time pages I&apos;ve seen on the net.  I&apos;m not really saddened by this change, as the site lost it&apos;s integrity and usefulness a long time ago.
 
Does anyone out there know of any alternatives?  A basic, honest site offering an index of artists with free music on the net?  It doesn&apos;t have to be one that &lt;i&gt;hosts&lt;/i&gt; the content, just one that can be as useful at showcasing alternative artists as mp3.com once was.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:38:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584438</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;www.garageband.com&quot;&gt;www.garageband.com&lt;/a&gt;. You can search by genre or city, or browse the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.garageband.com/charts&quot;&gt;charts&lt;/a&gt;. 

The idea is bands review other bands, so a peer review system.  This can work for bands that are fairly mainstream, but for any one else it can be a pain in the ass.  Though problematic, it is still pretty good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:52:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584442</link>	
		<description>Sounds to me like Cnet is trying to make a profit off a known name to sell some 99 cent downloads. Not a bad idea, but correct me if im wrong when I say that very little of the money still goes to the artist.

I can almost hear the kids yell &quot;but when people were downloading them illegally nobody got any money&quot;. Sure. Of course! I guess I was always hoping that the internet economy would open doors for independant art that would reward its makers with great wealth and propsperity. 

What seems ironic to me is that the record companies are finding ways to make even more profit than before, which is natural, because its about capitalism. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Btw, I have no idea &lt;em&gt;what&lt;/em&gt; Cnet has in mind. Im done blathering on with my pointless opinions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:58:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: synecdoche</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584445</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s too bad.  A few years back I really enjoyed listening to bands on mp3.com but, like jimbob, haven&apos;t been impressed with them the last while.  Since then, I&apos;ve switched to some of the online radio stations.  I&apos;ve been to garageband.com but haven&apos;t spent a lot of time there-- have to give it a proper investigation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:15:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KevinSkomsvold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584447</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Does anyone out there know of any alternatives? A basic, honest site offering an index of artists with free music on the net?&lt;/em&gt;

Starpolish.com and sonicbids.com are probably the two I use the most since mp3.com has been in a sorry state for a while. Our band used to use garageband.com as well and I&apos;d highly recommend them as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bdk3clash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584448</link>	
		<description>Check out my stepsister&apos;s old band&apos;s page at mp3.com while you can. I set it up for her a little while back.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mp3.com/youngandpretty&quot;&gt;Young and Pretty&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Back in the Day&quot; is pretty good. Let me know what you guys think.

(By the way, they&apos;ve since broken up.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:19:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iamck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584449</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soundclick.com&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;null&quot;&gt;Soundclick.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:20:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iamck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584450</link>	
		<description>Oops, apologies for the above link...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soundclick.com&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:21:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584453</link>	
		<description>Are they going to start calling it mp3.com.com?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:41:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gfrobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584460</link>	
		<description>Why can&apos;t I find this anywhere on the actual MP3.com site or the Cnet site?  Even clicking on Join Now brings up nothing about it. 

Possible hoax?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:15:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: influx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584461</link>	
		<description>You mean apart from the link to the press release in the initial post?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gfrobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584477</link>	
		<description>Yeah, apart from that one.   I go to MP3.com and click on press releases and it&apos;s not there either  

It&apos;s probably legit but just strange that there are no links to it anywhere on the site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:53:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benjh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584482</link>	
		<description>If the new MP3.com is anything like CNet&apos;s editorial standards, then they won&apos;t be making much money.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:49:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Satapher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584490</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://zebox.com/cgarver/&quot;&gt;Zebox&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:38:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584492</link>	
		<description>I hope somebody comes forward and offers to purchase the music. If I were a company that made money on the net I&apos;d at least look at it. Expecting to make billions off of this acquisition would be fool hardy of course, but there would be some good positive publicity associated with it. Maybe Apple could get their hands on it and make it part of the iTunes music store. It&apos;d be a logistical nightmare I suppose, since they&apos;d have to get contracts with all of the bands, many of whom may no longer exist. It also might also make Apple Records really gnash their teeth and bring out the lawyers, since Apple Computer would then definitely be in the music business.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:44:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yerfatma</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584497</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;
&lt;em&gt; Are they going to start calling it mp3.com.com?&lt;/em&gt;

Brilliance.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:59:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SpaceCadet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584501</link>	
		<description>I just hope someone can sort mp3.com out. I appreciate it&apos;s free to use (with 3 song limit) - I&apos;ve used it to upload my own songs for the last 5 years  - but it really has become so awkward to navigate for the end-user since they commercialised it.  It&apos;s just tricky to navigate around and find music.  They push the charts too much.  Hope they can simplify it for the end-user.

Still, I found some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mp3.com/machinelove&quot;&gt;great music&lt;/a&gt; on mp3.com</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:22:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eloquence</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584506</link>	
		<description>Why not use something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent&quot;&gt;BitTorrent&lt;/a&gt;  to reduce bandwidth costs?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:33:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Outlawyr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584515</link>	
		<description>Crap, I was just about to release my 3rd CD on MP3.com. Anyone know of a similar CD program, I don&apos;t want to burn 1000 coasters just to hand a few out to friends.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:01:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zsazsa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584523</link>	
		<description>Eloquence: BitTorrent is a bit unfeasable for a site with a large number of relatively small files for download.  It sucks up a ton of CPU, and since the &apos;official&apos; server would have to act as a seed, it&apos;d have to run a client process for every single file on the site.  Even if they were spawned only when there were people there to download, it&apos;d take a lot of horsepower that&apos;d probably be more expensive than big dumb bandwidth.  BitTorrent is perfect, though, if you have a small number of very large files.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:25:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benjh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584549</link>	
		<description>A little hosting here, tracks behind a password protection folder, and a paypal link to charge a nominal fee to cover the bandwidth - Your Own MP3.com</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:13:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584562</link>	
		<description>gfrobe: 

On the front page go to near the bottom - go to the SOFTWARE box =&amp;gt; Software community =&amp;gt; Sophie&apos;s Corner

I received an alert via e-mail. To link it, I had to dig a little.  Perhaps they only want this to get out a bit at a time? Did any other Mp3.com&apos;ers get the email as well?

One thing I want to say - though mp3.com was going down the shitter, and they were notoriously hard to deal with (changes on your artist site could take over a week to process), they did deliver the goods in many ways.  

Secondly, they had a great selection of &quot;big&quot; artist downloads for no charge, thus making them legal tender.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:30:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tommasz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584694</link>	
		<description>MP3.com made sense a few years ago, but most musicians are probably web-savvy enough now to make it obsolete. But still, wiping out all of the content seems a bit extreme.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:24:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Foosnark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584704</link>	
		<description>Outlawr, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://mixonic.com&quot;&gt;mixonic&lt;/a&gt;.

I&apos;m selling my first CD through them.  Currently waiting for the sample (they shipped last Friday) to arrive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:35:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: willnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584736</link>	
		<description>Outlawr - look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdbaby.net/submit.htm&quot;&gt;CD Baby&lt;/a&gt;. That&apos;s the only place I buy music these days. Those guys are great. GREAT!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:04:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584753</link>	
		<description>amen to benjh. it&apos;s not really that hard, is it? there&apos;s a significant initial investment, i suppose, but is it *that* much of a barrier these days to make &quot;mp3.mycrazyband.com&quot;? 

&lt;small&gt;disclaimer: i work for cnet, but have no idea what the plans are for mp3.com. if forced to speculate, i&apos;d bet against a 99-cent download store. those stores seem doomed to me. at least i hope that&apos;s not what we&apos;re doing. in my wildest dreams, we&apos;d be using mp3.com to start an internet-only music service for hosting and promoting independent music. i&apos;d also bet that&apos;s doubtful.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Outlawyr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29569/The-Day-the-Music-Died#584804</link>	
		<description>Thanks Foosnark, http://mixonic.com/ is perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. 

Willnot, CDbaby.com is for those who already have a CD made. I want them to handle making the CD so I can get some sleep at night. But thanks for the idea.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:05:39 -0800</pubDate>
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