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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>And the woodwinds were the weakest part of the Stanford defense...</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nfl.com/qbclub/elway.html"&gt;John Elway&lt;/a&gt; gets the ball to the 18-yard line.  Mark Harmon (not &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/name/nm0001319/&quot;&gt;that Mark Harmon...&lt;/a&gt;) kicks the field goal to bring his team one point ahead with 4 seconds left on the clock.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kevinmoen.com/&quot;&gt;Kevin Moen&lt;/a&gt; catches the ball on the return kick, laterals to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arenafan.com/players/?player=1368&quot;&gt;Richard Rodgers&lt;/a&gt;, who laterals to &lt;a href=&quot;http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:v3w9M8ZeqYwJ:nflarchives.com/seasons/redskins/1986.htm+%22Dwight+Garner%22+Redskins+OR+%22Sports+Authority%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&quot;&gt;Dwight Garner&lt;/a&gt;.  Garner laterals back to Rogers who then shovels the ball to &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.dailycal.org/archive/98/10/12/news_in_brief.html&quot;&gt;Mariet Ford&lt;/a&gt;.  Ford then passes back to Moen, who finishes what he started by tackling &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.woodsidefund.com/about/t_gary.html&quot;&gt;trombonist Gary Tyrrell&lt;/a&gt; in the end zone.  So ends the 1982 &quot;Big Game&quot; between UC Berkeley and Stanford.  So begins the legend of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cs.rice.edu/~dwallach/the_play.html&quot;&gt;the weirdest play in the history of college football&lt;/a&gt;, complete with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyberbears.org/links/images/ThePlay.wav&quot;&gt;audio&lt;/a&gt; (wav file).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:19:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588732</link>	
		<description>great links!

love it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:23:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ukamikanasi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588735</link>	
		<description>Ah, I&apos;ve seen a video clip of the trombonist getting tackled, but this is the first time I&apos;ve heard the whole story.  Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:33:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588736</link>	
		<description>Classic story. I remember it well. As a former High School Band Geek, it resonated for me (like getting your instrument shoved into your face by a linebacker).

If this had happened while I was in High School, our Band Director would&apos;ve had the woodwinds line up on the opponants&apos; goal line with a minute to play in every game. (We had a Band Ddirector who was just as competitive as the Coaches...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:38:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588742</link>	
		<description>wendell, are you really me?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:55:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eddydamascene</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588746</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&apos;http://alumni.berkeley.edu/KCAA_Multimedia/theplay_short.ram&apos;&gt;The Play&lt;/a&gt; [real video]</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:07:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: donnagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588748</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s some &lt;a href=&quot;http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/%7Ecje/&quot;&gt;video&lt;/a&gt;, in case the excitement in Joe Starkey&apos;s voice drove you wild to see the play.

There&apos;s a 23MB long version that starts with Stanford&apos;s final possession, and a 2MB short version of just the last play, both RealVideo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:12:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samsonov14</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588749</link>	
		<description>Pah.  Take it to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sportsfilter.com&quot;&gt;sportsfilter&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;small&gt;No, seriously, though.  You should.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:12:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588751</link>	
		<description>Anyone have a video that doesn&apos;t require software written by baby-eating devil worshipping whores?

And Samsonov14: Take your mamma to sportsfilter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:18:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quonsar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588752</link>	
		<description>right here, xmutex!

&lt;small&gt;um, never mind. i thought you said video OF  baby-eating devil worshipping whores. my bad.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:20:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Voivod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588775</link>	
		<description>I just want to say that I hate sports, and love this post.  Well done.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:46:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samsonov14</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588779</link>	
		<description>My mother was a saint.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:01:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pemulis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588781</link>	
		<description>Take her to SaintFilter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:08:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: johnny7</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588783</link>	
		<description>That nearly knocked a couple of touring Aussies off their LA bar stools all those years ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:33:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: salmacis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588786</link>	
		<description>Thank you for including the video link. Otherwise I wouldn&apos;t have had a clue what the hell you were all talking about.

You like that play? Try rugby...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:01:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nthdegx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588817</link>	
		<description>I had no idea James Stewart had been involved with sports commentary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:38:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mecran01</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588833</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve seen that before, but that was beautiful.  I love the sheer amazement of the announcers.  Nothing like a little unscripted drama.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jalexei</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588834</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;You like that play? Try rugby...&lt;/i&gt;

Just had a mental image of a band on the pitch at a rugby match - Keep in mind if at any point one of the players were tackled with the ball, or the ball touched the field, the game is over, so I&apos;d have to give a nod to this sequence being more exciting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:46:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ewagoner</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588844</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s no need to use the work of baby-eating devil worshipping whores to view RealVideo. &lt;a href=&quot;http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1054136293&quot;&gt;There is an alternative&lt;/a&gt;, and it&apos;s free, and it works.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:15:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#588859</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not a big football fan, but this is a great post with a classic comment exchange.  This should go down in the MeFi Hall of Fame:

&lt;i&gt;Pah.  Take it to sportsfilter.
 
No, seriously, though.  You should.&lt;/i&gt;
posted by Samsonov14 at 1:12 AM EST  on November 21 

&lt;i&gt;Samsonov14: Take your mamma to sportsfilter.&lt;/i&gt;

posted by xmutex at 1:18 AM EST  on November 21 

&lt;i&gt;My mother was a saint.&lt;/i&gt;

posted by Samsonov14 at 3:01 AM EST  on November 21 

&lt;i&gt;Take her to SaintFilter.&lt;/i&gt;

posted by pemulis at 3:08 AM EST  on November 21&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:45:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: synapse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#589077</link>	
		<description>AAAAAAAAAUGH.

  As an Old Fart (graduated Stanford band member) this comes into my inbox every goddamn year around this time.  Gary Tyrell&apos;s got a good sense of humor about it, he actually hosted a cocktail hour on the 20th anniversary in 2002.  The saddest part is that a similar scenario actually happened with Berkeley in the 90&apos;s, but there was no press.  &lt; / bitterness&gt; 

And just to be nit-picky, a trombone is in the brass section.  Not woodwinds.  &lt;/&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:27:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#589193</link>	
		<description>Ooh, thanks, &lt;strong&gt;jonp&lt;/strong&gt;!  My ever-Broncos-loving heart still swells with pride at the mere mention of 2 little Elway-related words (The! Drive!) and I still get choked up at 4 others (&quot;This one&apos;s for John&quot;), so this is a real treat -- I&apos;ve never heard the whole story either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:51:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caseymcg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29733/And-the-woodwinds-were-the-weakest-part-of-the-Stanford-defense#589217</link>	
		<description>You still don&apos;t.  &quot;The Play&quot; was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/4556857.htm&quot;&gt;illegal &lt;/a&gt;from start to finish.  Color me bitter to this day, but there it is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:35:59 -0800</pubDate>
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