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	<title>Comments on: Rapacious, soul-less, and always looking for the</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:41:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Rapacious, soul-less, and always looking for the</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://solohq.com/Spirit/Heroes/ceely_disney.shtml"&gt;Walt would turn over in his cryonic chamber...&lt;/a&gt; (I know, I know, it&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/disney/waltdisn/frozen.htm&quot;&gt;not true.&lt;/a&gt;)

Speaking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/index.html&quot;&gt;family trees&lt;/a&gt;, Roy Disney (the last board member with ties to the founding family) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney1dec01,1,6483421.story?coll=la-home-headlines&quot;&gt;resigned from the company Sunday&lt;/a&gt;, calling for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://slate.msn.com/id/2069052/&quot;&gt;ouster of Chairman Michael Eisner&lt;/a&gt;.  Stanley Gold soon &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-disney2dec02,1,6942175.story?coll=la-headlines-business&quot;&gt;soon followed&lt;/a&gt;.  In a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-letter1dec01,1,2874344.story?coll=la-home-headlines&quot;&gt;harsh letter&lt;/a&gt;,
Disney said the entertainment conglomerate had &quot;lost its &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcfamily.go.com/home.html&quot;&gt;focus&lt;/a&gt;, its &lt;a href=&quot;http://abc.go.com/primetime/index.html&quot;&gt;creative energy&lt;/a&gt;, and its &lt;a href=&quot;http://pirates.movies.go.com/&quot;&gt;heritage&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.consumeraffairs.com/travel/disney_cruises.htm&quot;&gt;public&lt;/a&gt; now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thbookservice.com/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=C5010&quot;&gt;held&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ram.org/ramblings/philosophy/wdw_trip.html&quot;&gt;the perception&lt;/a&gt; that company is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wesh.com/orl/news/themeparknews/stories/themeparknews-20000714-235829.html&quot;&gt;rapacious&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nlcnet.org/campaigns/shahmakhdum/ &quot;&gt;soul-less&lt;/a&gt;, and always looking for the &apos;&lt;a href=&quot;http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/hauntedmansion/main.html&quot;&gt;quick buck&lt;/a&gt;&apos;.&quot;

No word yet from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/28054#548127&quot;&gt;Disneyland obsessives&lt;/a&gt;, but the folks at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mouseplanet.com&quot;&gt; MousePlanet &lt;/a&gt;&apos;s Mousepad &lt;a href=&quot;http://mousepad.mouseplanet.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=22819&quot;&gt;seem optimistic about this development&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:37:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fofer</dc:creator>		<category>waltdisney</category>		<category>roydisney</category>		<category>michaeleisner</category>		<category>disney</category>		<category>cartoons</category>		<category>characters</category>		<category>companies</category>		<category>business</category>
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		<title>By: MrLint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594275</link>	
		<description>I totally agree. I had totally no enjoyment at my last disney trip and i have no intention of going again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:41:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594280</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; resigned from the company Sunday,&lt;/em&gt; 
(needs registration to read) He resigned because force retirement?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:51:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594282</link>	
		<description>I like the concept of &quot;selectively enforced mandatory age limit&quot; that they used to get rid of him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:53:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594285</link>	
		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/nm/20031201/us_nm/leisure_disney_report_dc_11&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;i&gt; George Mitchell, presiding director of the board, said in a statement that Roy Disney and two other directors, Thomas Murphy and Raymond Watson, would have to leave because of the mandatory retirement age, which is 72. Disney will be 74 by January, when the board is expected to pick a new slate of directors.  The board&apos;s nominating committee, which had waived the retirement age cap in the past, had decided to apply the rule, Mitchell said. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:57:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594295</link>	
		<description>Has Disney/world/land/Inc. ever not been creepy? I never understood the fascination.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:08:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fofer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594307</link>	
		<description>Oops, sorry about the registration-required links... here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/12/01/us.disney/&quot;&gt;an alternative.&lt;/a&gt;

As smackfu mentioned, it&apos;s interesting that the retirement age cap seems to only be invoked on a case-by-case basis.   Also interesting that Roy is credited with the recruitment of Eisner in the first place.  I just love boardroom politics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:17:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594313</link>	
		<description>smackfu thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:25:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skylar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594320</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s amazing how much someone can totally lose it. Eisner and his team built Disney into the megacorp we all love or loathe today and then set about engineering its stagnation. How or why he did this with such aplomb is a mystery. 

But you don&apos;t have to be a theme park expert to understand that California Adventure and the Disney Studios Paris are both lemons and should either not have been built or should have been invested in far more heavily. Bravo to Mr. Disney for his efforts in making the whole travesty public.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:35:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594329</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;my last disney trip &lt;/em&gt;
Way too crowded. To ride the rides in a timely manner, two rides an hour. While waiting in one line we had a person from our group go to another ride obtain a &quot; time pass&quot; tickets that allowed us cutting in line at a specific time frame. Found it to be ridiculous then remembered about a decade back being told that the prices are raised higher hoping to keep the neighboring folks out. They do give the neighboring folks special discounts during off peak days. Tues &amp;amp; Weds are your best bet during the Summer. Winter any week day. When it rains, wide open yet your out door coasters will be closed due to no friction for braking. Go to Knott&apos;s Berry Farm yet it too is no longer family owned.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:44:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594342</link>	
		<description>So, how soon before they force Mickey&apos;s retirement?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:53:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jalexei</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594347</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, how soon before they force Mickey&apos;s retirement?&lt;/i&gt;

Sheesh - like with all that coke he&apos;d even notice....</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:59:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594359</link>	
		<description>Mickey&apos;s actually a nitrous huffer. It&apos;s Scrooge McDuck that&apos;s into coke. 

As for Mickey&apos;s retirement, what role has he really played for Disney recently? Mickey Mouse is some kind of Big Fat Giant Icon for my parents&apos; generation, but sometimes I wonder whether kids even know who he is? Aren&apos;t they more into the Little Mermaid and Aladdin these days?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:14:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594364</link>	
		<description>Little Mermaid &amp;amp; Aladdin? They are SO last Thursday. 

Actually I thought the latest short duration personal savior for children at the moment was Dori of Finding Nemo, but it&apos;s been 15 minutes since I last checked. I&apos;m sure it&apos;s changed by now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:18:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keswick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594365</link>	
		<description>...Thanks to Sonny &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act&quot;&gt;Bono&lt;/a&gt;, Mickey will be working for Disney long after we&apos;re dead.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:23:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve_at_Linnwood</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594389</link>	
		<description>What a bunch of Shiite Muslims!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:00:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594452</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; Walt would turn over in his cryonic chamber... (I know, I know, it&apos;s not true.) 

To dam&apos; bad it isn&apos;t. I&apos;d love to see Walt walk into a Disney board meeting looking pale but rested.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:04:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#594999</link>	
		<description>Dori&apos;s way kewl, but Mulan absolutely rocks my world.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:49:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29959/Rapacious-soulless-and-always-looking-for-the#595025</link>	
		<description>When I saw the headline here, my first thought was, who ever suggested that Whitman was cryogenically frozen?  Maybe I had just come from the &quot;gay is a bad word&quot; thread and made subconscious assumptions.  

Anyway.  I fully support actions that would have made talentless corporate cartoonists experience less than fully restful states of suspended animation.  For what it&apos;s worth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:35:55 -0800</pubDate>
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