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	<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:48:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Have a holly, jolly Christmas....</title>
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		<description>&apos;tis the season for ... Rankin-Bass TV specials!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com&quot;&gt;The Enchanted World of Rankin/Bass&lt;/a&gt; is a fan-site devoted to the distinctive animation of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/aboutusarthur.html&quot;&gt;Arthur Rankin, Jr&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/aboutusjules.html&quot;&gt;Jules Bass&lt;/a&gt;.  In addition to &lt;a href=&quot;&lt;a href=&quot; http://www.tvparty.com/xmasrudolph.html&gt;extensive and interesting background information&lt;/a&gt; on your favorite Christmas specials (like &lt;a href=&quot;http://rankinbass.com/rudolphhome.html&quot;&gt;Rudolph&lt;/a&gt;), you can also learn about &lt;a href=&quot;http://rankinbass.com/tvspeclistc.htm&quot;&gt;lesser-known specials&lt;/a&gt; such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/smokeyhome.html&quot;&gt;The Ballad of Smokey the Bear&lt;/a&gt;.  The site also includes some   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/video.html&quot;&gt;rare video clips&lt;/a&gt;, including a pencil-test from &lt;i&gt;Frosty the Snowman&lt;/i&gt;.   There is also a very complete section on the Rankin-Bass TV series, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/thundercatshome.html&quot;&gt;Thundercats&lt;/a&gt;.   &lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;b&gt;Please also see additional note inside....&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:48:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anastasiav</dc:creator>		<category>Animation</category>		<category>Christmas</category>		<category>Holidays</category>		<category>TV</category>		<category>Television</category>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598263</link>	
		<description>Before anyone else says it, yes, this is one of the worst designed and slowest loading websites I&apos;ve seen in a long time, which is a shame, &apos;cause there&apos;s some super information here.  I&apos;ve tried to dig out the best parts of the site and highlight them in the post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:48:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598268</link>	
		<description>Rats.  Here&apos;s the correct link for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tvparty.com/xmasrudolph.html&quot;&gt;extensive and interesting background information&lt;/a&gt; --  its a great article called &quot;Rudolph: Behind The Scenes&quot; and its one of the most interesting articles on the entire site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:53:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pomegranate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598270</link>	
		<description>I LOVE these shows - such a major touchstone of the holidays for some of us of a certain age.  I work with a short, roundish, red-headed lawyer who has a tendency to pitch fits. I sing, &quot;He&apos;s Mr. Heat-Miser, He&apos;s Mr. Freeze!&quot; in my head when it happens. It helps me amuse myself until he calms down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:58:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eilatan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598300</link>	
		<description>ABC Family showed a whole bunch of Rankin Bass stuff last Saturday--so I finally got to see the Heat-Miser/Mr. Freeze one, as well as the extra-depressing Jack Frost one. 

Rudolph is on tonight, just in time for the annual mocking: &quot;It was time to get the women back to Christmastown!&quot;  Rudolph is my very favorite Christmas special.  Well, I&apos;m fond of the Grinch and Charlie Brown, too, but Rudolph is good for mocking and the others aren&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:29:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598307</link>	
		<description>I watched those too last weekend--I&apos;m immediately 8 years old again when they come on! I love the Heat Miser/Mr. Freeze (Year Without a Santa Claus) one too, and Shiny New Year where they go to all the different time islands looking for the big-eared baby new year, and Burgermeister Meisterburger. : &amp;gt; (I don&apos;t care too much for Little Drummer Boy, or the donkey one tho) 
&lt;small&gt;I recently downloaded a new computer-generated Rudolph that was weird, but it had Herbie and Yukon Cornelius and everything&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:42:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jalexei</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598308</link>	
		<description>You&apos;d THINK that if his BOOK had indeed SOLD OUT he&apos;d be ABLE TO HIRE SOMEONE to EDIT THE SITE without a WONKY CAPS LOCK KEY. Just SAYIN&apos;. The RUDOLPH link is WORTH IT, THOUGH.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:44:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robot Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598312</link>	
		<description>I just posted about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robotjohnny.com/archives/000222.html&quot;&gt;my love for the Burgermeister&lt;/a&gt; last night...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:49:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bluno</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598314</link>	
		<description>does anyone else have fond memories of seeing  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rankinbass.com/mmphome.html&quot;&gt;mad monster partry?&lt;/a&gt;  i need to hunt that one down....</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:53:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598325</link>	
		<description>I caught part of the Rankin/Bass love-in on ABC Family the other night. It was disturbing to see the Rudolph story extended into some nonsense about saving Baby New Year (but maybe I&apos;m just jealous that there&apos;s never been a Rankin/Bass special about how Rudolph saved Chanukah one year - although it is heartening to see that you can buy &lt;a href=&quot;http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sniffbuttstore/christmastoys.html&quot;&gt;Chanukah chew toys for Fido&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:09:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pomegranate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598331</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;including a pencil-test from Frosty the Snowman&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;small&gt;Some very, very wrong part of me is thinking of Frosty trying to trap a pencil under his breasts to see if gravity and age have made them sag.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:18:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: steef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598336</link>	
		<description>thank-you, abc family channel (and anastasiav)! years ago, when i was looking to buy a domain-name, my top choice was islandofmisfittoys.com, which, i see, is &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.islandofmisfittoys.com&quot;&gt;squandered&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:23:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598345</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;...such a major touchstone of the holidays for some of us of a certain age.&lt;/em&gt;

Just thinking about the intro drum and horn music that played while the word &quot;SPECIAL&quot; spun on the screen still gives me stomach butterflies. SPECIAL!!! IT&apos;S ON!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember being almost as excited for the Christmas specials as I was for Christmas itself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:32:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrLint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598378</link>	
		<description>Ahh i love listening to Burl ives. too be he was a McCarthy collaborator.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:13:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dr_dank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598391</link>	
		<description>Holy crap, I remember that jennyb. It was just this burst of bossa nova type drum and horn to denote a special. I think it was CBS that did that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:29:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598408</link>	
		<description>There is one (or maybe all of them start this way, I don&apos;t know) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homestarrunner.com/&quot;&gt;Homestar Runner&lt;/a&gt; cartoon that opens with that, too. I don&apos;t remeber which one it was, but I got all giddy hearing it again.

It probably was CBS since we didn&apos;t have cable and I think the only channels we got were CBS and PBS, and sometimes ABC if the sky was clear. Never NBC, though. That was the exotic, forbidden broadcast station that I dreamed must be so very wonderful it was forbidden, and must play nothing but Hardy Boys, Land of the Lost, Herbie movies, and Christmas specials.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:06:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598412</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just thinking about the intro drum and horn music that played while the word &quot;SPECIAL&quot; spun on the screen still gives me stomach butterflies.&lt;/i&gt;

What really pissed me off was when they ran that, and what followed wasn&apos;t a special for kids but something else entirely. They did that a few times and it has left me with a deep, abiding rage for the all-seeing eye.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:08:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598430</link>	
		<description>mad monster party was great too, but creepy (esp. at the very end)--it would always come on near halloween &lt;small&gt;(there&apos;s an enormous difference between those of us were kids in a pre-cable and pre-vcr world--these rankin-bass shows were real highlights of the season)&lt;/small&gt;
*sings, &quot;put one foot, in front of, the other, and soon you&apos;ll be walkin&apos; out the do-oo-oor...&quot;*</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:41:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cortex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598517</link>	
		<description>Those specials always creeped me out.  Put me on edge.  Like watching Mister Rogers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:27:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598549</link>	
		<description>oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickfilosopher.com/christmas/flicks/oliveotherreindeer.shtml&quot;&gt;Olive the Other Reindeer&lt;/a&gt; is on Cartoon Network tonight at 8:30est (one of the better new specials)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:33:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kittyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598584</link>	
		<description>Ooo, Oo! I know the answer, jennyb! It&apos;s Strongbad&apos;s very moving rendition of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homestarrunner.com/xmas.html&quot;&gt;O Holy Crap&lt;/a&gt; that has the Spinning-Special musical splash bit. It might be on the Halloween ones too? I dunno. But it just makes me love Homestarrunner.com all the more.

I can&apos;t see hear the tune without goosebumps and vivid memories of buttery popcorn and the Charlie Brown Christmas special.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:12:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598598</link>	
		<description>oh yeah!!! : &amp;gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:34:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598683</link>	
		<description>I hadn&apos;t heard of R-B in years, but seeing the name quickly brought back memories of some of the worst quality animation I can remember;  certainly up there with the Kroft(?) crap I had to endure in the 1970&apos;s.  The horreur!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:47:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#598686</link>	
		<description>Actually, permit to clarify that.  I was speaking, strictly of the animation/cartoons of R-B; not other forms.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:52:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RakDaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30111/Have-a-holly-jolly-Christmas#599080</link>	
		<description>kittyb, that made my day.  I haven&apos;t heard that music in ages, and there&apos;s something warped and wonderful about hearing it right before Strong Bad.  Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:40:42 -0800</pubDate>
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