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	<title>Comments on: eBay</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:09:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>eBay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay</link>	
		<description>Who wants to own &lt;a href=&quot;http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=26432&amp;item=2450501898&quot;&gt;an aircraft carrier&lt;/a&gt;?  Possibly the best geek gift ever, if you&apos;re Bill Gates or someone.  Note especially the *category*...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>baylink</dc:creator>		<category>aircraftcarrier</category>		<category>ebay</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605729</link>	
		<description>Spotted at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net&quot;&gt;Boing Boing&lt;/a&gt; -- does anyone know why that site is occasionally replaced by a full page sunflower graphic that&apos;s a link to Plastic.com?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:09:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ElvisJesus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605739</link>	
		<description>My birthday is Jan 22 ... I&apos;m just sayin&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:24:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SisterHavana</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605745</link>	
		<description>5 people have bid on it so far..</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:44:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dejah420</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605760</link>	
		<description>Ok kids, I say we take this show on the road.  MetaFilter on the High Seas!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:53:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zedbends</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605761</link>	
		<description>This is (was) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Ships/VENGEANCE.html&quot;&gt;HMS Vengence&lt;/a&gt;. She&apos;s the ship on which the Japanese signed the surrender of Hong Kong during WWII, and there&apos;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/vengeance/&quot;&gt;appeal&lt;/a&gt; to try and save her and turn her into a &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2126607.stm&quot;&gt;museum/memorial&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:07:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605763</link>	
		<description>HMS &lt;em&gt;Vengeance&lt;/em&gt; (also known as the Argentine Navy&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Minas Gerais&lt;/em&gt;) displaced abt 14 - 17k tons.  Just for comparison purposes, an &lt;em&gt;Essex&lt;/em&gt; class US fast carrier of similar vintage displaced about 10k tons more, while a modern &lt;em&gt;Nimitz&lt;/em&gt; bird farm displaces around 102k tons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:15:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MiG</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605776</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;also known as the Argentine Navy&apos;s Minas Gerais&lt;/i&gt;

Actually Brazilian.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:04:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605780</link>	
		<description>Hopefully, no one named &apos;L. Bob Rife&apos; is going to bid. We don&apos;t have a metaverse set up yet. &amp;lt;/snowcrash&amp;gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:28:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamgreenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605782</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s one teeny-tiny CVA.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:46:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605783</link>	
		<description>Purchase it.  Load up with party-goers at 2-grand a pop.  Take it out to international waters, and have one big-ass mofo house party on deck.  I&apos;m sure someone could make it profitable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:50:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bshort</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605785</link>	
		<description>Baylink: I think you&apos;re seeing Carl&apos;s site. He runs Plastic, and apparently hosts BoingBoing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:54:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605793</link>	
		<description>The Russians have sold a couple of decommissioned carriers to concerns in China. The &lt;i&gt;Minsk&lt;/i&gt; became a Shenzhen theme park called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/English/p40.htm&quot;&gt;Minsk World&lt;/a&gt;, and last year China also completed the sale of a larger, newer carrier called the &lt;i&gt;Kiev&lt;/i&gt; went to Tianjin and became a floating casino. Some ultra-suspicious China watchers were concerned about the People&apos;s Liberation Army Navy (yes, that&apos;s its real name) &lt;a title=&quot;Though a formidable land army, at least on paper, the PLAN is no match for a blue-ocean navy like the US or even the UK. Its primary capabilities are a) defensive b) retaking Taiwan.&quot; href=&quot;http://china.jamestown.org/pubs/view/cwe_002_006_003.htm&quot;&gt;jumpstarting a carrier program&lt;/a&gt;, especially when an uncompleted hulk from the last days of the Soviet era, the &lt;i&gt;Varyag&lt;/i&gt;, was finally sold to another Chinese firm and &lt;a title=&quot;The Bosporus is the Black Sea&apos;s only outlet to the oceans, but is wholly within Turkish, i.e. NATO, territory&quot; href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/11/01/turkey.ship/&quot;&gt;allowed to pass through the Bosporus&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a title=&quot;Especially note the unconventional ski-jump deck, common on smaller aircraft carriers but not used by the US Navy, whose ships either are large enough for a small Olympics or carry jump-jets and whirlybirds&quot; href=&quot;http://www.help-for-you.com/news/Nov2001/Nov01/PRT01-41Article.html&quot;&gt;photo&lt;/a&gt;]after tense negotiations. (The evidence at this date seems to indicate that capitalism is, indeed, trumping militarism.)

Meanwhile, who&apos;s actually buying an ex-Soviet carrier to be retrofitted ... as an aircraft carrier? &lt;a title=&quot;India hopes, it is said, to create a floating nuclear and command and control capability out of the reach of Pakistan, though French help with Pak submarines may balance out any gains&quot; href=&quot;http://www.spacewar.com/2003/031216140327.gwtunoy2.html&quot;&gt;India&apos;s navy&lt;/a&gt;, that&apos;s who. Non-superpower navies actually have quite a bit of &quot;slightly shot at&quot; ships.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 22:18:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nthdegx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605813</link>	
		<description>Well, I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; need somewhere to park my F15...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:16:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dreamghost</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605819</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; Well, I do need somewhere to park my F15...&lt;/em&gt;

How Many Pepsi Points Do I Need To Get One Of These?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 01:17:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dreamghost</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605834</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Well, I do need somewhere to park my F15...&lt;/em&gt;

Better place that puppy aboard with a pierside crane - the landing gear&apos;s definitely not up to an arrested landing like Navy aircraft are.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:52:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nthdegx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605840</link>	
		<description>I was expecting some sort of technical retort, although I predicted it would be the prohibitive length of an older carrier. Maybe that isn&apos;t the case. :/</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:55:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605842</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Better place that puppy aboard with a pierside crane - the landing gear&apos;s definitely not up to an arrested landing like Navy aircraft are.&lt;/i&gt;

Scratchy should have tied Itchy&apos;s tongue with a square knot.  Jesus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 06:09:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>XQUZYPHYR</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dantien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605856</link>	
		<description>Shouldn&apos;t we all pitch in a couple o&apos; bucks and secede from the union?  Metafilter World?  Much better than Sealand.

I hereby announce my candidacy for lifetime resident DJ of the new country.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 07:07:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reverendX</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#605923</link>	
		<description>Dantien: sure! at the current bid price of $6 mil, divided by the # of metafilter users, that&apos;s only $349.45 each. For a spot on an aircraft carrier!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 10:00:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30449/eBay#606225</link>	
		<description>Sold!

Can we stock that new MetaCarrier&#8482; with domesticated penguins?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:57:48 -0800</pubDate>
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