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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 3057</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 3057</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://paydirect.yahoo.com/"&gt;Yahoo now has a PayPal-style service.&lt;/a&gt; What is Yahoo &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; doing these days? And how does this relate to them being a media company? They&apos;ve got the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;directory&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bills.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;bill payment&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://auctions.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;auctions&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bookmarks.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;bookmarks&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://player.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;a music player&lt;/a&gt;, among their many offerings. It seems like they&apos;ve copied many major internet applications and put them in one place. Are they the &quot;Microsoft&quot; of the web in terms of innovation?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:05:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>		<category>Yahoo</category>		<category>PayPal</category>		<category>paydirect</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: dandot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17840</link>	
		<description>I wish Yahoo would focus on why are here in the first place: their directory. I&apos;ve submitted my personal site three times, and it&apos;s still not listed. &lt;I&gt;Who do I have to sleep with to get a listing?&lt;/I&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17843</link>	
		<description>Yahoo is following the MS strategy to a tee. They either buy the company providing the service, or do it themselves.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:31:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tsitzlar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17846</link>	
		<description>Yes, but generally speaking, I have found Yahoo!&apos;s services to be better than the internet app they are copying.  For instance, as a buyer, I much prefer Yahoo&apos;s auctions to Ebays (much easier to find things), and this new payment service has a really cool feature I haven&apos;t seen before:

&lt;font size=-1&gt;Identity Confirmation
The &quot;Identity Confirmation&quot; feature provides added security if you are unsure of a person&apos;s email address. An email will be sent to the recipient asking them to answer a question (specified by you) to prove their identity. The answer will be returned to you. You can then accept the response (and the money will be sent), or you can decline (and the transaction will be cancelled). &lt;/font&gt;

Besides, all the services work on my Sprint PCS phone, so what more could I ask for?  Now I can pay my bills by phone!  (Oh, wait, couldn&apos;t we do that before?  &lt;g&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:38:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: msippey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17847</link>	
		<description>why should they focus on the directory, except for nostalgia&apos;s sake?  their strategy is to have yahoo be a single destination not only for content, but also for tools -- and they&apos;re doing a good job of it.  their apps are integrated (at least more integrated than most other providers), and it&apos;s that integration that makes &apos;em stickier than other sites.  and they&apos;re pushing that sticky integration down out of the browser and on to the desktop (used yahoo messenger lately?  it has some very interesting functionality) and into the device (yahoo via wap, yahoo via palm vii, yahoo via omnisky).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:40:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lockecito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17850</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;What happened to Yahoo Phonebooth?&lt;/b&gt;

You used to be able to go to phonebooth.yahoo.com and find the cheapest 10-10-nnn number to call from a point in the US to a specified international location. As I&apos;m an American expat in Argentina, my mom found this a very useful service. Now they just have a link to net2phone.

Anyone know of a good price comparison engine for 10-10-nnn numbers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:46:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: frykitty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17851</link>	
		<description>The apps themselves are usually quite good, when they&apos;re up.  Messenger is one of the few things that is reliable.  I finally gave up and transferred my e-mail.  And customer service...don&apos;t get me started.

Yes, they&apos;re doing a great job of being a one-stop web center, but they need to concentrate on infrastructure as well.

I understand their rush, but I question their readiness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:49:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17859</link>	
		<description>Well, I like only needing one login.  Plus yahoo is probably going to be around for awhile and not merge or go under.  And they seem to do a good job of stealing any innovative features that their competitors dream up.  Sure it sucks for the competition, but it&apos;s a win for the consumer.

As far as the directory... don&apos;t most people just use google for that?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:34:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17862</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s interesting that these new &quot;breakthrough&quot; services are the ones which prove that the net isn&apos;t that global after all. My Visa card may be accepted in the US, but not by PayPal or Yahoo Wallet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:58:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: briandame</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17863</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yahoo is following the MS strategy to a tee. They either buy the company providing the service, or do it themselves.&lt;/i&gt;

Is there another way?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:01:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17868</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1010phonerates.com/&quot;&gt;1010phonerates.com&lt;/a&gt; seems to have what you&apos;re looking for, lockecito. 

I imagine they had a content-repurposing license of some kind that expired. Just like now you can&apos;t get regional news at My Yahoo anymore. Even though it was just a barely-adequate headline/slug listing of e.g. &quot;Wisconsin Headlines&quot;, with one or two always duplicated over in the full story section because it was getting national play anyway, I used it. Bzzt.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:48:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delfuego</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17886</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, I like only needing one login. Plus [this company] is probably going to be around for awhile and not merge or go under. And they seem to do a good job of stealing any innovative features that their competitors dream up. Sure it sucks for the competition, but it&apos;s a win for the consumer.&lt;/i&gt;

My biggest problem with the computer world writ large: fill in &lt;i&gt;[this company]&lt;/i&gt; with &quot;Microsoft&quot;, and you get &lt;b&gt;reamed&lt;/b&gt; for making this statement, but fill it in with any other company (as smackfu did with &quot;Yahoo&quot;), and nobody blinks an eye.  Smacks of disparate treatment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:23:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wiremommy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17892</link>	
		<description>Smackfu may choose Yahoo for their MS-like qualities, Delfuego, but many of us avoid using Yahoo for the same reasons. I hate their auctions, their email service and most of the other copied features on their site. I use the maps and I&apos;m in a couple of Yahoo Clubs, but otherwise I stay away from them; they may have a little bit of everything, but they have nothing to offer me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:58:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baylink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#17895</link>	
		<description>BTW, Matt: you forgot &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zdnet.com/yil/&quot;&gt;the magazine&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:55:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dreama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3057/#18044</link>	
		<description>With the Yahooification of eGroups (coming) and WebRing (started today in a big way) I fear what will happen if they continue taking over all of the webapps and services that catch their fancy.  What will be next?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:53:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dreama</dc:creator>
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