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	<title>Comments on: And they say cats can&apos;t be trained!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:31:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>And they say cats can&apos;t be trained!</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zefrank.com/annie/navigation.html&quot;&gt;My Cat Annie&lt;/a&gt; is a website with several quick adorable videos (in Flash format) of the owner&apos;s cat doing ridiculous cat tricks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:24:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>		<category>zefrank</category>		<category>zefrank.com</category>		<category>mycatannie</category>		<category>annie</category>		<category>cat</category>		<category>cats</category>		<category>cattricks</category>		<category>pettricks</category>		<category>pets</category>		<category>animals</category>
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		<title>By: machaus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610764</link>	
		<description>Oh, it&apos;s the &quot;how to dance properly&quot; guy. Cute.</description>
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		<title>By: poopy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610768</link>	
		<description>omg.....please stop! hehehe... stealth wins!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:37:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610775</link>	
		<description>Two for stealth. Thanks, jonson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:02:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mcsweetie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610776</link>	
		<description>check out bi-lingual...my cats make noises like that too when they see birds. whats that all about?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:03:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: poopy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610781</link>	
		<description>wow mcsweetie, my cat (may she rest in peace) did the same thing also and i&apos;ve always wondered why. weird. bird-talk. maybe it&apos;s something to entice the birds?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:09:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: birdherder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610783</link>	
		<description>Thief is good too. My cat loves money. I just wish I could train her to go get money from others and bring it home to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:12:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: machaus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610794</link>	
		<description>A FOAF programmed their cell phone ring tone to be a MP3 of the noise their cat makes when watching birds at the window.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:29:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Item</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610819</link>	
		<description>what the hell is a FOAF?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:18:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610821</link>	
		<description>(foaf = friend of a friend)

And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zefrank.com/&quot;&gt;there is a ton&lt;/a&gt; of other interesting/strange/bizarre/whimsical stuff on this guy&apos;s site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:21:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vorfeed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610823</link>	
		<description>My cats also make the bird noises. Strangely enough, they even made them once when they saw some deer outside, so I guess the sounds would be more properly called &quot;hunting noises&quot; or some such. It&apos;s amazing to me that housecats can always recognize a prey animal, even when said animal outweighs them by a factor of twenty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:26:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HTuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610824</link>	
		<description>Very cute.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:26:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610833</link>	
		<description>Re. stealth, I had a cat once that when naughty use to run and hide by sticking its head under the bed and leaving the rest of its body in full view. I think the theory was, &apos;I can&apos;t see you so you can&apos;t see me.&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:46:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yhbc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610837</link>	
		<description>Very cute. One of our new cats (Elvis) has learned to fetch, and I thought it was a first - now I see we&apos;ll have to keep working on more tricks before we qualify for the stupid cat tricks Hall of Fame. If I get a chance to load a .mpg to my web storage space, I&apos;ll post a link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:04:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ferociouskitty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610843</link>	
		<description>My vet says the weird bird noise means they&apos;re frustrated.  (Always happens when they&apos;re inside looking out at prey they can&apos;t get to.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:30:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aeschenkarnos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610854</link>	
		<description>This guy&apos;s apartment seems to have a HUGE number of mice, check out the under-the-fridge video!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:12:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TimeFactor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610870</link>	
		<description>Apparently, the weird bird noise is the cat practicing (or anticipating) the coup-de-grace neck bite that cats use to kill prey. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hdw-inc.com/behaviorswhy.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
Great link jonson, much fun.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:13:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610872</link>	
		<description>Hmm... every time my cat makes that wierd bird noise i&apos;m always reminded of the bit in &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/&quot;&gt;&quot;The Pincess Bride&quot;&lt;/a&gt; where Montoya is calling to Fezzik to come help him break down the door...

&lt;i&gt;He&apos;s getting away from me, Fezzik! Please!! Fezzik!&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, everyone now and again she will bust through the fly screen with a meow of triumph before realising that crows are probably a little large for her.

Incidently, cats do not play &apos;fetch&apos;.  They play &apos;throw this&apos; and when they stop bringing you something to throw, you know the game is over.   As you the human you are the loser.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:32:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610882</link>	
		<description>I can think of one reason a cat would make a special noise while hunting. Perhaps they mean to test their prey&apos;s hearing by making a noise, then seeing if they react. It makes a good check of the prey&apos;s alertness and sensitivity as the cat closes in. Making a noise that won&apos;t necessarily broadcast &quot;a cat is here&quot; obviously makes sense. Perhaps they are wired to imitate something in particular (bird sounds?) and we just don&apos;t sense the resemblance the way a bird would.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:57:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610904</link>	
		<description>This person needs some touch lamps for their cat. My parents&apos; alarm cat comes into their room in the morning and turns the lights on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:29:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lisa g</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610911</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This guy&apos;s apartment seems to have a HUGE number of mice, check out the under-the-fridge video!&lt;/i&gt;

Erm, I&apos;m guessing those are catnip-filled toy mice, not actual deceased little rodentia. (My cat will bat her toys under the fridge, and then be frustrated when she can&apos;t reach them again.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:46:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vorfeed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610948</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; can think of one reason a cat would make a special noise while hunting.&lt;/i&gt;

But they don&apos;t seem to make it when they&apos;re actually hunting something they can catch. When they&apos;re after bugs or toys, they&apos;re silent until they pounce. I&apos;ve only seen them make this particular sound when staring out the window at something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:33:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#610959</link>	
		<description>ferociouskittys vet is right, they don&apos;t make that noise when they are ouside and have a chance at catching the birds (nor when the window is open.) My cats do it to the telly when nature shows are on...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:12:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: absquatulate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#611003</link>	
		<description>LOL &lt;b&gt;dabitch&lt;/b&gt; my cat does the same thing.  If she hears them, she&apos;ll sit in front of the tv.  If they&apos;re particularly interesting, she&apos;ll run to the side the birds &quot;flew to&quot; on the screen, immediately recognize her mistake, and return to center and watch.

She&apos;ll even sit there a few minutes after the program is over, just hoping for one last swipe.  Funny how an ordinary housecat can see a flock of flamingoes and go crazy for them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 05:13:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#611006</link>	
		<description>does you cat enjoy golf and sheep rearing competitions too? I&apos;m beginning to think mine are a bit strange. ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 05:38:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: greengrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#611008</link>	
		<description>My male cat and I play &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/30672#610872&quot;&gt;&quot;throw this&quot;&lt;/a&gt; all the time. He brings it to me, I throw it, he brings it back, and if I don&apos;t throw it, I get one very indignant &quot;ME-OW!&quot;. I think that&apos;s cat for &quot;Throw it, dammit!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 05:53:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kalessin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#611020</link>	
		<description>The cat in &quot;my cat annie&quot; looks (by its markings) to be an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/egyptian.html&quot;&gt;Egyptian Mau&lt;/a&gt;. I know, because I also have an Egyptian Mau. Annie has the right markings on her face, tummy and flanks.

Maus are known for their interactivity and intelligence. Many Mau&apos;s I&apos;ve met play fetch. The one I have does 4 to 5 foot jumps from a sitting start, when &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.petsmart.com/cat/shopping/toys/interactive/products/product%5F36607.shtml&quot;&gt;properly stimulated&lt;/a&gt;.

They&apos;re also very outgoing and formidable. Our Mau&apos;s best friend at home is our 90 pound Akita, and it&apos;s obvious even to our Akita, that the Mau rules the house.

At a cat show, I met one Mau owner who claimed her cat would fetch her day-to-day objects, or hockey them to her across a table, like cigarettes and lighters, on command.

My Mau is currently snuggled up against me, asleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:50:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kalessin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/30672/And-they-say-cats-cant-be-trained#611030</link>	
		<description>P.S. Annie looks like she could also be a bengal or an ocicat by her markings, but her behaviors seem to say &quot;Mau&quot; to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:30:25 -0800</pubDate>
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