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Rev. Moon advocates genocide
January 13, 2004 11:25 AM   Subscribe

The Genocidal Moon
"There will be a purge on God’s orders, and evil will be eliminated like shadows," the Unification Church leader Rev. Sun Myong Moon, the owner and primary funder of money-losing right-wing Washington Times, said last week. (The comments were posted online by Rev. Moon’s webmaster and picked up by blogger John Gorenfeld.) "Gays will be eliminated, the 3 Israels will unite. If not then they will be burned. We do not know what kind of world God will bring but this is what happens. It will be greater than the communist purge but at God’s orders."
How should the media be responding to this call for genocide? Have any major media outlets been covering this story? Why not?
posted by nofundy (26 comments total)

 
Why would they cover the obviously lunatic rantings of a zealot? Isn't shining the light on this crap nearly the same as validating it?
posted by fenriq at 11:34 AM on January 13, 2004


This looks like the original post being referenced.

That said, I don't really get it when people accuse others of being silent on an issue. It sort of validates those people as thought-leaders -- that we want to hear what they have to say as if their words carry so much weight.
posted by mathowie at 11:38 AM on January 13, 2004


This guy isn't the unibomber. He owns a large circulation newspaper in Washington DC, is very well-connected in the Republican Right.

Put it another way: if George Soros said things like this wouldn't it be news? Wouldn't the press be pointing out that he's a threat to our society?
posted by alms at 11:53 AM on January 13, 2004


Metafilter: Shining the light on this crap
posted by jon_kill at 11:55 AM on January 13, 2004


Yes, Lunatic Moon is owner of UPI and the Wash Times. He also leads the leader of a well known sex cult church. Further, Moon heavily supports the Bush political machine.
posted by the fire you left me at 12:08 PM on January 13, 2004


For God so loved the world...

How is it that people - especially ones in leadership positions - are confused by this? I want to go hide now.
posted by woil at 12:22 PM on January 13, 2004


He also owns the University of Bridgeport, a school that up until today I was considering auditing a class at. I'll be taking my money elsewhere.
posted by archimago at 12:23 PM on January 13, 2004


Moon definitely carries weight.

Not with me but with a certain political party and family.

That makes what he says matter. Such as alms points out.

Such madness should have the light shining upon it, especially from someone so politically active and a loss-leading media propaganda machine owner.

Other than that, I could give a f*ck what the Moonie bastard says.
posted by nofundy at 1:08 PM on January 13, 2004


It's easy—and often advisable—to dismiss lunatic ravings out of hand. But when the lunatics acquire significant power and political capital, it becomes essential to out their madness to the public.
posted by rushmc at 1:52 PM on January 13, 2004


I think this is the whole transcript.
posted by MrMoonPie at 2:04 PM on January 13, 2004


"If you misuse your love organ, you destroy your life, your nation, your world."

*cue big mushroom cloud*
posted by murmur at 3:38 PM on January 13, 2004


misuse your love organ

Once again, a good name for a band can be found in the wreckage of a crazy man's words.
posted by tittergrrl at 4:11 PM on January 13, 2004


He also owns the University of Bridgeport, a school that up until today I was considering auditing a class at.

My mom used to teach an Adult Ed. ESL class there. Her students were fond of referring to the school as "Rev. Moon University" in their essays.

My birthplace is a strange town.
posted by jonmc at 5:52 PM on January 13, 2004


Even in killing, the West had to find faster and faster ways. They invented the gun and so forth. In Korea, you only have chopsticks and they cannot do anything so useful, just carry the food to the mouth.

Many claims also suggest China as an origin for gunpowder, and there still remains a possibility that the recipes were transmitted to Europe via the moslems. In the Arabian colonies of Africa, saltpetre was known as "Chinese snow" and in Persia as "Chinese salt" and one 13th century manuscript refers to a substance causing "Heaven shaking thunder!" It should be pointed out however that actual firearms in the far-east were developed at around the same time as in the west and the early use of gunpowder was probably limited to fireworks.

and this gets me....

..."Again, look at Afghanistan. Right before communism began to crumble, there was the situation in Afghanistan. Father gave permission to Lee Shapiro to go in there and get the film about what was really happening there. As you know, Lee was killed there. How grave the situation was, but then, other journalists began to follow him there. Then, it became clear to the world that the communists had to get out. When they killed Lee, they took more than a half million dollars of film footage. That must still be with the KGB. We are negotiating now for the Russians to find it somewhere in the KGB and give it back to us. It is our footage and we can negotiate for it."

frikkin war erupts and when it is (almost) over, all he wants is his footage.

I think Moon is one of those pink elephants that people hang on too because they may afraid of what the neighbors may think with a big pink elephant in the trash.
posted by clavdivs at 6:21 PM on January 13, 2004


Have any major media outlets been covering this story? Why not?

um, because the media has it's own plans to kill us all? :-)
posted by quonsar at 7:42 PM on January 13, 2004


Once again, a good name for a band can be found in the wreckage of a crazy man's words.

Funniest comment I've read in a while. Thank you.

Some info on Moony Marriages:
"The actual wedding is combined with a holy wine ceremony where hundreds of married couples drink wine mixed with Rev. Moon's own blood (sacrament-imitation), and sprinkled with water (baptism-imitation). The last part of the wedding is the ceremony of atonement where the Devil is beaten out of the body. This is accomplished when the couples beat each other three times with a stick. Afterwards, often after a long period, a three day ceremony starts as a compulsory introduction to marriage and marital relations. "
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 10:19 PM on January 13, 2004


The fascists must have some minority to condemn. This is what makes Moon's words a real concern.

The relationship between Moon and the Bush crowd has some VERY serious potential to take some Christian fundie vote away from Bush.
posted by Goofyy at 12:10 AM on January 14, 2004


You see, these might be considered fringe ravings not worth validating by acknowledging. Except that they're from a man who is in the mainstream of the Republican Party. Not only does he own the Washington Times and UPI, but he's a billionaire patron of a wide variety of conservative and Christian Right causes.

He helped pay for Iran-Contra, and he's received a large federal grant for his missionaries to teach Abstinence-Only Sex Ed in public schools. The White House's Faith-Based czar has attended his events in order to promote the Faith-Based Initiative. This guy isn't Time Cube, he's stone cold Republican establishment.

There's much more about him at www.gorenfeld.net, including an expose of his Abstinence-Only efforts as well as overview of his closeness with the Bush family and White House.
posted by inksyndicate at 2:29 PM on January 14, 2004


Have you ever played a long game with a group of friends,
let's say Risk or Monopoly or some such, and you think you
know who's winning, but then someone comes from way
behind and crushes everyone in a single round.

That's my moonie fear. I worry that while the Muslims and the Xtians
and the Jews are all squabbling, the Moonies will suddenly show
up, inform us that they are now in charge, hand us our robes
and our sacred text and explain that we will now have sex only
in the approved manner, in front of the True Parents®.
posted by milovoo at 3:15 PM on January 14, 2004


:::scans milovoo's links:::

I am going to start a sex cult, I swear to god I am.
posted by rushmc at 5:27 PM on January 14, 2004


Just leave Elfquest out of it.


Once again, a good name for a band can be found in the wreckage of a crazy man's words.

Look who's talkin'!
posted by y2karl at 5:41 PM on January 14, 2004


Odd. I see from perusing some of the links that the Unification Church owns the Manhattan Center Building (home of Manhattan Center Studios and the Hammerstein Ballroom), and the adjacent New Yorker Hotel, all right near my office.
posted by Vidiot at 8:43 PM on January 14, 2004


They own a ton of stuff. Don't forget Wacom, the graphics tablet company.
posted by inksyndicate at 12:52 AM on January 15, 2004


I am going to start a sex cult, I swear to god I am.

Admittedly, it does sound like a pretty good life as long as you are the god-king.

I would really love to see some brave reporter ask President Bush about his connections on camera some day.
He would either have to diss to moonies or risk alienating a good portion of his normal xtian followers.
posted by milovoo at 9:43 AM on January 15, 2004


I would really love to see some brave reporter ask President Bush about his connections on camera some day.

I'm telling ya. Forget all the WMD stuff -- if MoveOn wants to turn the election around, all they gotta do is tell the world that the president isn't ashamed of teaming up with a cult leader who holds bizarre "tear down the Christian cross" ceremonies.
posted by inksyndicate at 3:29 PM on January 15, 2004


Unfortunately, it will, like all the other crappy stuff he has done go unnoticed and undebated.
posted by milovoo at 2:38 PM on January 16, 2004


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