Comments on: In Which the President Orders a Reporter to Buy Some Ribs

In Which the President Orders a Reporter to Buy Some Ribs

tweebiscuit — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:29:49 -0800

Remarks by the President to a Press Pool. THE PRESIDENT: I'm ordering ribs. David, do you need a rib? Q: But Mr. President -- THE PRESIDENT: Stretch, thank you, this is not a press conference. So instead of asking questions, answer mine: Are you going to buy some food?

By: Derek

Derek — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:37:39 -0800

Now that he's talking about it, I could really use some ribs. Maybe a baked potato...

By: kokogiak

kokogiak — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:38:18 -0800

Give the man his Ribs already. Though I am confused - is Dubya ordering or serving said Ribs? Either way, he sure seems anxious to get some Ribs.

By: machaus

machaus — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:38:33 -0800

F$%k the cup, pour it in my hand for a dime.

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:43:26 -0800

That's almost elegant in it's surrealism. I kept checking the url to make sure it was really the white house site...

By: tweebiscuit

tweebiscuit — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:45:57 -0800

I just don't particularly understand why they issued it as a press release, considering that not much is said except for "Stop asking me questions -- I'm trying to order ribs."

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:46:58 -0800

it's like a SNL sketch...unbelievable (cheeseburger, cheeseburger, pepsi, chips!)

By: jon_kill

jon_kill — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:47:17 -0800

That makes as little sense as anything I've ever seen.

By: profwhat

profwhat — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:49:35 -0800

THE PRESIDENT: See, his job is to ask questions, he thinks my job is to answer every question he asks. Hilarious stuff--it's almost too easy to make the press look dumb.

By: bshort

bshort — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:53:48 -0800

Someone needs to tell the president that there are better ways to stimulate the economy than trying to increase monetary velocity. And, that if that's what he's trying to do with the tax cuts, that he's giving the tax cuts to the wrong people. Give $20billion to the poor and they'll spend it on things like food, clothing, shelter. Give it to the rich and they'll stick it in a bank. On preview: profwhat - I don't think it's the press looking dumb.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:57:06 -0800

"let me explain how the economy works..." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

By: TBoneMcCool

TBoneMcCool — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:57:20 -0800

Indeed, profwhat. Why the hell do these arrogant press types expect the president to answer questions on anything except ribs?

By: psmealey

psmealey — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:01:35 -0800

I don't think it's the press looking dumb. Didn't you get the memo on this? From 9-11-01 on, it was considered illegal, immoral and unpatriotic to insinuate that the President is, or in some way resembles dumb.

By: jmgorman

jmgorman — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:30:22 -0800

What an arrogant prick. He invites the press corps along and then treats them like children. He clearly just doesn't want to answer questions in an unscripted situation.

By: NorthernLite

NorthernLite — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:40:17 -0800

Roswell, New Mexico, eh?

By: waxpancake

waxpancake — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:40:33 -0800

CNN says that he was charged too little for the food, and then didn't leave a tip.

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:52:17 -0800

CNN says that he was charged too little for the food, and then didn't leave a tip. Do you tip on carry-out orders? If I'm paying cash, I never tip; if I'm using my credit card, though, I'll sometimes be guilted out of an extra dollar by that little "tip" line on the receipt/signature slip.

By: donfactor

donfactor — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:01:39 -0800

Aw, c'mon, give the guy a break. I mean I hate him too. But I hate him as president. I mean, if he were just a local rancher, or a minor league ball club owner I could probably see him as just a nice enough guy, maybe with some funny ideas but okay to share a mess of ribs and a few laughs with as long as he kep religion out of it.

By: fenriq

fenriq — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:15:45 -0800

donfactor, the problem is that he's not a local rancher, he's not a minor league ball club owner, he's the President of the USA. He gave away all his breaks when he took office. And yes, Mr Roboto, you should tip on take out orders. The food still has to be prepared, packed and given to you. Tip less but still tip. Never worked in the food service industry, have you?

By: gyc

gyc — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:22:22 -0800

CNN says that he was charged too little for the food, and then didn't leave a tip. And you just happened to leave this out: "Bush did not leave tip for the to-go order, but Zabala said one was not expected."

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:29:58 -0800

And yes, Mr Roboto, you should tip on take out orders. The food still has to be prepared, packed and given to you. Tip less but still tip. Never worked in the food service industry, have you? Well, yeah, I have (never got any tips, though). Do you tip at fast food places, too? How about buffet or cafeteria-style places? I always though tipping was primarily for table service.

By: elwoodwiles

elwoodwiles — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:34:20 -0800

Why the hell are we talking about this?

By: superchris

superchris — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:39:27 -0800

waxpancake: "CNN says that he was charged too little for the food" CNN: "Zabala said the bill should have been $42.95 but he charged the president less because he was "caught up in the moment." I'm sure you calculate how much you show pay every time you buy food... waxpancake: ", and then didn't leave a tip." CNN: "Bush did not leave tip for the to-go order, but Zabala said one was not expected." You tip your local rib joint? Bullshit. "The hearless captialist swine didn't tip where tips are not expected. Fascist!" Shit, the guy's obviously not Washington, but sheesh. At least he didn't go into a rib joint and order filet mignon for $2, which Daddy might have. I'd just wish I he was buying a round instead of having his finger on the button. You folks think the pres not answering the press / joking with them is a new thing? If you think this is a good method of attacking Bush, then you're part of the problem that'll get this guy re-elected. (What about the obvious disdain for Mad Cow? Oh my goodness!)

By: jacquilynne

jacquilynne — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:48:07 -0800

Actually, I think the President comes out looking pretty good in this one. Sure, the economy exchange was facile, but he clearly meant it to be. He was ducking the questions with an unusual amount of grace, and wit. Contrast, our new PM hopeful up here in the great white North, who, when asked a question she didn't like at her coming out party, tersely said 'Next Question' until the journalist gave up. As for the tipping thing - not required on take out orders, and yes, I have worked in food service. In my experience, restaurants code take-out on a different staff key so that the totals don't get included in the tip-out. From an etiquette perspective, tips are required for personal services. Waiting on your table, bringing you water, making recommendations from the menu are personal services. Handing over your take-out and making change are purely business transactions.

By: Civil_Disobedient

Civil_Disobedient — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:49:25 -0800

I think the press ended up with the funniest lines of the exchange: THE PRESIDENT: See, his job is to ask questions, he thinks my job is to answer every question he asks. I'm here to help this restaurant by buying some food. Terry, would you like something? Q An answer. Q Can we buy some questions? Funny stuff.

By: davidmsc

davidmsc — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:08:56 -0800

Jeebus...will you give the guy just a tiny little break? He's trying to get some food. He is the President, and of course he has obligations to the citizenry -- but NOT 24/7. The reporters get plenty of opportunities to talk to him, ask him questions, interview him, analyze him, etc. Cripes...a man's gotta eat, ya know.

By: squirrel

squirrel — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:18:32 -0800

This exchange is on the Whitehouse site as a (staged) demonstration of what a regular guy good old Dubya is. Kinda guy you'd like a share a beer with; kinda guy you'd defeat your economic self-interest to vote for. Get it?

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:34:36 -0800

That was good one he really nailed the dumb journalist (that could have answered "Yes sure Mr. President I help workers three times a day with breakfast, lunch and dinner but hey please don't tell my wife I eat donughts too!") Oh by the way Prez you can ask some company to buy some millions steaks at well, they can afford it and it would help the economy as well !

By: quonsar

quonsar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:03:20 -0800

Sure, the economy exchange was facile, but he clearly meant it to be. no, facile it wasn't. perhaps you meant facetious.

By: superchris

superchris — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:04:47 -0800

"Kinda guy you'd like a share a beer with; kinda guy you'd defeat your economic self-interest to vote for. Get it?" 1st part. Got it. Remarked on it. 2nd part. Huh? I think we all realize that it's a photo-op to make him look more 'normal', more likeable. Who doesn't? I'm reminded of a article about the Iowa caucuses where an Iowan asked why all the dems felt the need to get their pictures taken with cows and corn. All politicians do it. It's the way politics have always been done. (kissing babies, Arsenio, Checkers?) To demonize Bush for it makes his opponents look silly. I just can't stand when people belittle the opposition to Bush by going so overboard against anything he does. "He didn't leave a tip." It makes opposing Bush look trivial, which my opposition is far from. When people say "BUSH IS HITLER", then people actually see, well, that he's not Hitler, then they begin to doubt all opposition to the man. In that way the extremists help him to gain the undecideds. There's 8 billion ways to oppose him on terms than everyone can understand. Opposing him for bullshit only helps him. Similarly, I would bet that Indymedia has created more Repubs than Dems/Greens/LaRouchies combined. /rant

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:08:26 -0800

When people say "BUSH IS HITLER", then people actually see, well, that he's not Hitler... Of course Bush isn't Hitler: Bush is a fiscal liberal and a social conservative. He's much closer to Stalin.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:13:18 -0800

Jeebus...will you give the guy just a tiny little break? he was born bleeding money out his asshole, he has no idea about the value of money, it is nothing short of arrogant, crude, self-centered and a slap in the face of the very people he claimed to be helping. he could have whipped out his roll and peeled off a couple of hundreds and said "that'll cover the food and all the extra fuss we caused, maam" and scripted or no, been a goddam hero, but shit like that doesn't occur to king doofus. he's clueless. why would anybody cut him a break?

By: Tryptophan-5ht

Tryptophan-5ht — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:13:32 -0800

my favourite part was Bush explaining how the economy works. Like Ari Flischer on quantum physics.

By: superchris

superchris — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:25:36 -0800

"Jeebus...will you give the guy just a tiny little break?" "he was born bleeding money out his asshole," Can't you even have sympathy for his bleeding asshole?

By: Mick

Mick — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:13:53 -0800

he could have whipped out his roll and peeled off a couple of hundreds and said "that'll cover the food and all the extra fuss we caused, maam" Then you'd call him a blue-blooded arrogant ass who thinks he can just trow money around to make the little people happy.

By: squirrel

squirrel — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:17:04 -0800

kinda guy you'd defeat your economic self-interest to vote for. Superchris, that's a reference to many of the ignorant poor who vote for Bush because he's "a man of prayer" or other such garbage regardless of the fact that his policies favor the rich and powerful. Pay not attention to his policies, enjoy his glib fratboy humanity. Get it?

By: moonbiter

moonbiter — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:43:19 -0800

I think the CNN article reads like an Onion article. In any event, why do a press release that says absolutely nothing?

By: amberglow

amberglow — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:49:25 -0800

for the pictures, moonbiter--the pres with the "common man"

By: azimuth

azimuth — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:56:28 -0800

Then you'd call him a blue-blooded arrogant ass who thinks he can just trow money around to make the little people happy. I'd call him someone who knows "how the economy grows. You've got plenty of money in your pocket, and when you spend it, it drives the economy forward...makes it more likely somebody is going to find work." Of course when you spend less and don't tip, it doesn't help quite as much. "Do as I say, not as I do."

By: unreason

unreason — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:13:47 -0800

Look, guys. I don't like Bush, but I've lived in the DC area all my life and I've never seen anyone tip for a carryout order. Maybe in other regions or countries it's different, but not here. Tips are for waitservice or delivery. He paid the bill he was given, which is what he's supposed to do. C'mon guys. There are a lot of real things you can criticize Bush over, but this ain't one of them.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:20:39 -0800

that's not very unreasonable.

By: troutfishing

troutfishing — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:38:47 -0800

unreason - don't we expect better of our president ?

By: troutfishing

troutfishing — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:54:53 -0800

After all, the guy's personal fortune is derived from his grandfather's which came from, essentially, Nazi slave labor. GW's immediate personal fortune came mostly from a heartfelt donation of Texas Rangers stock, while he was governor of Texas. Now he is rich. He could leave a thousand dollar tip and not break even the slightest sweat. This would, however, emphasize his financial difference from the common man. And, if he were to tip excessively, this would also violate the ethos of his class which says : keep a low profile.

By: wannabehippie

wannabehippie — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:21:11 -0800

maybe he was just excited about the fact he had just mastered the concept of the tickledown effect from his econ101 textbook.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:21:21 -0800

"The president has to have time to eat, sleep and be merry, or he'll make angry, grumpy decisions." Quick, give him some ribs before we invade another country! (Maybe Dean was just hungry?)

By: cookie-k

cookie-k — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:21:56 -0800

My asshole bleeds from his tiny little break.

By: tweebiscuit

tweebiscuit — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:23:06 -0800

Moonbiter -- That's my question exactly. I didn't link to this because it says anything about Bush in particular, but because the fact that this was recorded as a press conference is uniquely bizarre.

By: troutfishing

troutfishing — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:28:45 -0800

tweebiscuits - thanks for linking to this uniquely bizarre press conference, a wierd and 1/2.

By: BackwardsHatClub

BackwardsHatClub — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:57:15 -0800

You bush-hating liberals crack me up. I didn't like Clinton one bit but I can at least admit he seemed like a smart guy who would probably be pretty fun to hang out with. I feel the same way about Bush. You guys need to calm down with the "STOP THE PRESSES HE DIDN'T TIP ON CARRYOUT!!!!!" Superchris has it right

By: hank_14

hank_14 — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:05:31 -0800

Backwards, don't be daft. Clinton was a smart guy, but he was probably not all that fun to "hang out with". And Bush jr. is probably a blast to party with, but he's not that bright, at least not compared to past presidents. Or most of the students I teach. Or my cat.

By: squirrel

squirrel — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:35:28 -0800

Zing, hank_14! This odd little thread seems to have really brought the seldom-posters out of the woodwork. I like to see that. Pass the ribs.

By: tweebiscuit

tweebiscuit — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:57:04 -0800

Let it be known that I never intended to stir up a political brou-ha-ha.

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:56:23 -0800

One thing I wonder whenever I see this kind of "President as normal guy" kind of story: Does the President of the United States carry cash? Why would he need it, normally? Would he have to get a staffer to run down to the bank to cash a check for him or something so he'd have it? On preview: It's three in the morning and now I want some barbecue.

By: namespan

namespan — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:58:46 -0800

After all, the guy's personal fortune is derived from his grandfather's which came from, essentially, Nazi slave labor. Troutfishing manages to completely top the surreal nature of the article with the surreal nature of this statement. I think everybody should try to use this sentence in a conversation tomorrow, OK? Report back.

By: magullo

magullo — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:53:16 -0800

To the "give it up, already" crowd: any comments on the fact that this is posted on the White House website? /Bush-bashing thread? I'd say it's a WTF thread. ----------- namespan: I try to use "He tried to kill mah dad" on a daily basis. Gotta repport it works wonders: people crack up and I get what I want.

By: nofundy

nofundy — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:09:04 -0800

The reporters get plenty of opportunities to talk to him, ask him questions, interview him, analyze him, etc. Yeah, like ten whole press conferences in three years. [smirk] And those were scripted to death. Get real, the SCLM readily admits that this is the least press friendly White House ever and yet they continue to slobber all over aWol's $2,000 shoes.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:48:41 -0800

Colour me a confused Canuck: This was a staged photo-op of Bush purchasing some take-out ribs, and he's being raked over the coals for not turning it into a full-on press conference? The American media is just weird.

By: ilsa

ilsa — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:27:14 -0800

fff-- This is a little like having an official government press release of, oh, I dunno, Chretien buying a dozen donuts at Tim Hortons while making fun of Peter Mansbridge for having a cup of coffee. You'd expect to see it on Air Farce, not The National. Likewise, we Americans would expect to see this as a sketch on Saturday Night Live, not CNN. I don't know which is funnier/sadder: that this happened, that there was a press release and news coverage of it, or that this thread has generated so much traffic.

By: euphorb

euphorb — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:18:32 -0800

I'm Gonna Get You Sucka meets SNL. Bush's "one rib" was "intercepted by warlords".