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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 3098</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:43:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 3098</title>
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		<description>So I was paging through the special section of Indymedia devoted to the upcoming &lt;A href=&quot;http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org&quot;&gt;Melbourne protests&lt;/a&gt;, and came across a page about Melbourne University. Apparently their Student Union voted to skip the S11 protest because they thought too many flat-out anarchists and professional agitators were trying to take charge. So someone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=173&quot;&gt;posts on Indymedia&lt;/a&gt; that this is a case where &quot;democracy was ineffective.&quot; What? You lose the vote so there must be something wrong with voting?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 15:32:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>		<category>australia</category>		<category>melbourne</category>		<category>protests</category>		<category>demonstrations</category>
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		<title>By: justnobody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3098/#18147</link>	
		<description>Ahh the wonderful MSU. What can we say? They&apos;ll protest anything and everything, as long as someone holds their hands. This isn&apos;t the first thing they&apos;ve backed out of. I attend MU so I know what I&apos;m on about too. And no, I didn&apos;t vote but I sure as hell saw all the notices on the toilet doors...the only place they advertise these days!</description>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Apparently their Student Union voted to skip the S11 protest because they thought too many flat-out anarchists and professional agitators were trying to take charge. &lt;/i&gt;

If this is true (I&apos;m not at all familiar with the situation) then the &lt;a href=&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.union.unimelb.edu.au/&quot;&gt;MUSU&lt;/a&gt; must be rather cowardly and lame; in which case, who cares?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:38:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
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		<description>sorry, that link should be: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.union.unimelb.edu.au/&quot;&gt;MUSU&lt;/a&gt; (which is unavailable anyway, last time I checked)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 16:43:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cheaily</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3098/#18153</link>	
		<description>Reason I heard that Melbourne Uni pulled out (I&apos;m at Swinburne) was because the s11 members wanted $12K from the SU to cover costs (propaganda, etc)

Other members of the SU who didn&apos;t support s11 cracked the shits and complained

so they voted, and ended up refusing funding.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 17:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3098/#18154</link>	
		<description>From what I&apos;ve read, more than just funding is at stake...for example, see this article on the MUSU&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2000/418/418p4b.htm&quot;&gt;undemocratic tactics&lt;/a&gt;.  

The Union is apparently closely associated with the Labor Party (a right-wing/neo-liberal party, despite the name), and in that light a lot of what they&apos;re doing comes across as petty and transparently political. (As for part about funding, on the other hand, I don&apos;t see why it is necessary. )

BTW, in addition to s11.org and indymedia-melbourne, this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenleft.org.au/globalaction/s11/index.shtml&quot;&gt;Green Left Weekly site &lt;/a&gt; is also useful for catching up on s11 related news.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2000 17:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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