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	<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:12:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>new form of matter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter</link>	
		<description>Scientists at &lt;a href=&quot;http://jilawww.colorado.edu/&quot;&gt;JILA&lt;/a&gt; have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2004/21.html&quot;&gt;announced&lt;/a&gt; the creation of a new form of matter known as &lt;i&gt;fermionic condensate&lt;/i&gt; the sixth known form of matter -- after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and &lt;a href=&quot;http://jilawww.colorado.edu/www/press/bose-ein.html&quot;&gt;Bose-Einstein condensate&lt;/a&gt;, created in 1995 also by JILA which won the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/2001/press.html&quot;&gt;Nobel Prize in 2001&lt;/a&gt;. Scientists believe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colorado.edu/news/reports/fermions/&quot;&gt;fermionic condensate&lt;/a&gt; is one step closer to an everyday, usable superconductor. &lt;a href=&quot;http://ojps.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&amp;id=PRLTAO000092000004040403000001&amp;idtype=cvips&amp;gifs=Yes&quot;&gt;Abstract (full text subscription only).&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:08:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stbalbach</dc:creator>		<category>matter</category>		<category>JILA</category>		<category>fermioniccondensate</category>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618875</link>	
		<description>Non-physics major &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;cid=570&amp;ncid=753&amp;e=3&amp;u=/nm/20040128/sc_nm/science_matter_dc&quot;&gt;announcement&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618878</link>	
		<description>when I was in school we called these &quot;states&quot; of matter. Did something change?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:25:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: banished</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618909</link>	
		<description>What about semi-solids? (Example: toothpaste)  Not unique enough for its own category?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:41:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iamck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618913</link>	
		<description>MatterFilter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:47:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RylandDotNet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618915</link>	
		<description>banished: pastes are a mixture of solids and liquids, not a state of matter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:49:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fvw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618920</link>	
		<description>Toothpaste, at the molecular level, is just a mix of solids and liquids. You can suspend a solid in a liquid (a &quot;colloid&quot;), which is squishy like jelly for instance. I think tooth paste contains glycerine which makes it non-fluid. Vague memory though, corrections welcome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:55:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kfury</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618922</link>	
		<description>So now my pagan circle consecrations have to have &lt;i&gt;six&lt;/i&gt; points? I&apos;ll be here all night!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:58:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inpHilltr8r</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618931</link>	
		<description>Toothpaste flows, given enough time. Other substances are also less easily classified. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/Glass/glass.html&quot;&gt;Is glass liquid or solid?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:15:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starkeffect</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618959</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t see how a fermionic condensate would have much to do with high-Tc superconductivity.  The former involves entire atoms, while the latter, since it takes place in a solid, involves only electrons and phonons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:12:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starkeffect</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#618962</link>	
		<description>And why isn&apos;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aip.org/physnews/graphics/html/helium3.htm&quot;&gt;superfluid helium-3&lt;/a&gt; considered a &quot;fermionic condensate&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:15:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Octaviuz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#619044</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m just a grad-school dropout but, don&apos;t the He3 nuclei pair up to form pseudo-bosons in the superfluid?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:03:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vacapinta</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#619050</link>	
		<description>starkeffect, i believe this was the first &lt;i&gt;creation&lt;/i&gt; of a superfluid using in this case magnetic resonance to induce the atoms into Cooper pairs (BCS) and then observing the transition to a bose-einstein condensate like state (actually, pseudo-bosons or fermion pairs as octaviuz states)

So, the big news here is the creation and the observation of this transition phase. Offhand, its really not all that exciting outside of the superconductivity field.

The first creation of a BE condensate however was a stunning confirmation of some deep principles in quantum physics.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0401554&quot;&gt;full paper&lt;/a&gt; is available at arxiv.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:36:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Opus Dark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#619051</link>	
		<description>A bit dated, starkeffect, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://physicsweb.org/article/world/15/4/7 &quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; should refresh you - and it&apos;s from Deborah herself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:53:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lathrop</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#619111</link>	
		<description>My favorite colloid is pesto.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:37:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starkeffect</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31013/new-form-of-matter#619200</link>	
		<description>Thanks Opus... I have a PhD in physics but haven&apos;t thought about this kind of stuff for a while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:30:46 -0800</pubDate>
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