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	<title>Comments on: I Love Death -- Lodger Flash Videos</title>
	<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:05:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>I Love Death -- Lodger Flash Videos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://koti.welho.com/alaari/lodger/&quot;&gt;I Love Death&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;[&lt;b&gt;warning&lt;/b&gt;: potentially NSFW, Flash, and Music] [&lt;i&gt;via&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=http://techlawadvisor.com/blog/&quot; &quot;&gt;The TechLawAdvisor&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blort.meepzorp.com/&quot;&gt;Blort&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:05:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anathema</dc:creator>		<category>flash</category>		<category>music</category>		<category>video</category>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625517</link>	
		<description>Equally good is &lt;a href=&quot;http://ky.hkkk.fi/~laari/lodger/lodger.html&quot;&gt;Doorsteps&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:05:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Down10</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625519</link>	
		<description>I found those videos a few days ago -- great stuff. The music itself ain&apos;t bad either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:09:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaorn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625524</link>	
		<description>[this is excellent]</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:16:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bdk3clash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625526</link>	
		<description>Fantastic, but now I&apos;m kind of depressed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:18:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mosch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625530</link>	
		<description>now if only the sound didn&apos;t cut out when he gets on the subway....  excellent though, as was doorsteps.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:29:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BackwardsHatClub</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625552</link>	
		<description>I have seen more cartoon sex on MetaFilter in the past two days then I had previously seen in my entire life. Very good though</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:49:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BackwardsHatClub</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625561</link>	
		<description>this post is very good, not the cartoon sex</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:28:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: woil</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625565</link>	
		<description>Heh. Excellent short, although I&apos;d agree, slightly depressing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:35:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kickingtheground</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625571</link>	
		<description>Excellent.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:14:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tryptophan-5ht</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625575</link>	
		<description>3 day lag from the pile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:33:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tryptophan-5ht</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Samizdata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625581</link>	
		<description>Man, I had those &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.samizdata.org/blog/archives/000123.html&quot;&gt;blogged&lt;/a&gt; back on the 6th.  (Yes, Virginia, it&apos;s self linkage...)

Finally beat MeFi to something cool...

Great stuff, though...

&lt;small&gt;wanders away looking annoyingly self-satisfied...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:08:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Samizdata</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fishfucker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625589</link>	
		<description>wow, reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/faint_suicide&quot;&gt;well-done video&lt;/a&gt; made for The Faint&apos;s &quot;Agenda Suicide&quot;. Made by, I believe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mk12.com/&quot;&gt;mk12&lt;/a&gt; who were also responsible (afaik) for the ever-awesome &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mk12.com/sweaterporn.html&quot;&gt;&quot;sweaterporn&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. 

&lt;small&gt;which sadly, appears broken -- sorry sweater-fetishists.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:27:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ashbury</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625611</link>	
		<description>good post.  So sad, yet so true for so many.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:02:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XQUZYPHYR</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625630</link>	
		<description>Sort of a very nasty homage to &quot;Life in a Box.&quot;  I really wish anyone else on the planet knew what I was talking about when I mention that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:52:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chicobangs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625648</link>	
		<description>Not only lovely and depressing, but really well animated. That whole site is almost obnoxiously clever, actually. Nice music, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:28:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VulcanMike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625665</link>	
		<description>Okay.  I&apos;ll be the obnoxious one to raise more a serious concern.  I find it disturbing how casually artists (whether in movies or Flash art as shown here) present and we consume the depiction of sexual violence against women.

Depressing?  How about offensive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jopreacher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625698</link>	
		<description>XQUZYPHYR a &quot;black box&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:41:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tryptophan-5ht</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625718</link>	
		<description>&quot;we consume the depiction of sexual violence against women.&quot;

bitches got it commin</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:58:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LittleMissCranky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625726</link>	
		<description>That was my first thought, VulcanMike.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:06:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: a3matrix</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625756</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;bitches got it commin&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah she did.  Did you see what she was wearing?  She was asking for it.  

&lt;sarcasm&gt;  
&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:59:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: punishinglemur</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625926</link>	
		<description>VulcanMike, go watch Sesame Street.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:34:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biscotti</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#625993</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find it disturbing how casually artists (whether in movies or Flash art as shown here) present and we consume the depiction of sexual violence against women.&lt;/i&gt;

If you watched the linked movie and felt the need to make the above comment in reference to it, then I respectfully suggest that perhaps you missed the point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:50:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VulcanMike</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#626042</link>	
		<description>biscotti: I got the point.  Perhaps you didn&apos;t get &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; point.

The animation is great.  The story is clever.  The music is tolerable -- It&apos;s all well and good.

The image of a broken old man enthusiastically harassing, knocking unconscious and then raping a woman while his friend in a wheelchair masturbates to orgasm is &lt;strong&gt;offensive&lt;/strong&gt;.

Even on a more intellectual level, this animation is objectionable.  If you are a child resulting from rape, you&apos;ll end up raping someone else?

Or does the Nietzsche-esque work-sleep cycle in the animation place the blame on our society and its obsession with success?  What then?  Society made him rape her?  Should we sigh and say &quot;Oh, what an interesting story about human nature... and check out the cinematic vector animation!&quot;

Does something being clever make it automatically intelligent?  Redeeming?  Above reproach?  I don&apos;t understand how anyone could look at that animation and not be at least a little bit offended by the imagery.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:03:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biscotti</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/31284/I-Love-Death-Lodger-Flash-Videos#626048</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s &lt;b&gt;supposed&lt;/b&gt; to be offensive, that&apos;s what it&apos;s &lt;b&gt;about&lt;/b&gt;.  It&apos;s about the fact that things like abuse and violence and disconnect and dehumanization are cyclical, and inter-related.  Ignoring the message and concentrating only on the imagery misses the point entirely, since the very off-handed offensiveness of the imagery is a large part of the message.  It&apos;s talking about exactly the same sort of thing that you&apos;re objecting to - it&apos;s on your side.  (In my opinion, of course.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:10:49 -0800</pubDate>
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